Religion, a little problem on our hands?

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

Ya'll know that this is one little thing that's bad, ever since it came around through the DCC. Even just a few days ago, God's Golden Child was banned 'cause he started flamebaiting with religion as the subject.
Eh, then there's one mod .. sorry I ain't gonna name him now .. v_v Eh, we were talking on MSN and it came 'round to religion. When I told him of my beliefs, he decided to never talk to me - just because he has something against me issuing religion. Now will it be a good thing, for staff to do this? Members are of course, allowed to have their own beliefs. If the staff decide to ignore them because of this - it ain't a good thing.

So what do ya'll say and put a serious ban on religious topics or do something ..?

 

[Lust]

and staff hold their own rights when they deal with others on such topics.

Yes, but that also causes the staff to be more critical of a member in certain situations. It's like how some staff members hold grudges on some regular members and they're punished more severely than other members who are the staff member's friends.

 

[Spectrum]

That all went over my head, and all I'm seeing here is a debate about whether staff are allowed to follow their own beliefs even when they're not on PC.

 

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

Yes, but that also causes the staff to be more critical of a member in certain situations. It's like how some staff members hold grudges on some regular members and they're punished more severely than other members who are the staff member's friends.

Yeah, and we can relate SOMETHING to that from our knowledge, even if we're not sure if its acutally true or not.

See..? There are many possibilities of what may end up from a subject like religion..

 

[Blaze]

Something I learned when the T Dome was around, one thing you sould *never* discuss is religion....

Nothing good comes out of it.... MultiCulturalism never works out....

And I am sorry whichever staffer blocked you due to those belief(s), because it is never right to prejudge someone just by their religion... However they are allowed to do whatever they want, and since MSN isn't PC than I don't think anyone can do anything about it...

 

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

I don't refer to the staff grudges since I believe staff should not block off communication with banned users (unless of course, a banned user were to harass them). I'm referring to staff having the right to ignore others when it comes to MSN when they chat about matters that have nothing to do with the community. Talking about religion and then being blocked by that certain person talking about it; doesn't matter whether they're your friends or PC staff.

Yeah even so, won't it come around back against ME .. if he ends up finding me in fault, and he remembers that he decided to ignore me, and take his chance and ban me forever, even when the punishment would just be usually a small one for that 'cause?

^ Think that way..

 

[Arcanine]

Should we ban Religion topics? No, I for one would like to see more mature topics on PC (ones that don't involve flaming). Hell I'd like to see PC more mature as a whole.
If someone wants to hate me because I beleive in a Religion then I don't care. None of my friends have blocked me on MSN because I beleive in a Religion. All of them know I do (I think they do), and a good many of them beleive in no Religion.
And this is just one Staff member, if he/she doesn't want to talk then that's fine.
And I've had runins with "God's Golden Child". A temp ban will do him good. <_<

 

[Timbjerr]

I think what Jake is trying to say is that, staff members don't have the obligation to be fair and unbiased outsiode of PC itself (i.e. MSN chats), but if a staff member does block you on MSN, it shouldn't prevent them from being fair regarding you on PC if you're at fault at a later date.

 

[Morkula]

It's not gonna happen Andy. As much as I'd love to see mature discussions and debates on PC, it'll never happen. The T Dome was living proof of that.

And I have a lot of friends on PC that don't believe in a religion, and they have no problem with the fact that I do. And I know a lot of people that can say the same. So it's not like it's a big problem. The only problem is that 98% of all PC members are immature brats that can't handle mature topics dealing with religion, politics, sexuality, etc., without taking it to the extremes, blowing it out of proportion, or just acting like total idiots.

 

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

I think what Jake is trying to say is that, staff members don't have the obligation to be fair and unbiased outsiode of PC itself (i.e. MSN chats), but if a staff member does block you on MSN, it shouldn't prevent them from being fair regarding you on PC if you're at fault at a later date.

Yeah well can I actually SEE that happen? Not really. We all know that grudges can do things to people. v_v

 

[Blaze]

It's not gonna happen Andy. As much as I'd love to see mature discussions and debates on PC, it'll never happen. The T Dome was living proof of that.

And I have a lot of friends on PC that don't believe in a religion, and they have no problem with the fact that I do. And I know a lot of people that can say the same. So it's not like it's a big problem. The only problem is that 98% of all PC members are immature brats that can't handle mature topics dealing with religion, politics, sexuality, etc., without taking it to the extremes, blowing it out of proportion, or just acting like total idiots.

Actually sections of the T Dome were fine, it just was after the Staff decided to allow EVERYONE into the T Dome and not by getting acceptance by a PC Admin...

I still hope for its return, I know it hurt some peoples feelings but thats why I liked a acceptance only... So many people here have such strong beliefs and just making them hold it in and not let it out probably causes some of the flaming we see in DCC....

Ehh I am probably wrong, but I am just trying to help...

 

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

As I said, you can inquire about it by asking the staff privately.

Not really .. I don't believe that he has a reason to hand me some punishment NOW. v_v I'm talking at something else Mr. Winstrate ..

Actually sections of the T Dome were fine, it just was after the Staff decided to allow EVERYONE into the T Dome and not by getting acceptance by a PC Admin...

So true. I had to get into the T-Dome with my acceptance, and then I see EVERYONE GETTING IN THERE. Well, if I remember right, the staff got annoyed by PMs for acceptance coming in every day? v_v Your job people. You have to have patience.

 

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

Please research what you preach.

Hence, if I remember correctly. v_v

Eh, so what you're saying is I can do the same thing as the last mission, annoy you on MSN til you take action against Signomi or something? >_<

 

[Blaze]

So true. I had to get into the T-Dome with my acceptance, and then I see EVERYONE GETTING IN THERE. Well, if I remember right, the staff got annoyed by PMs for acceptance coming in every day? v_v Your job people. You have to have patience.

Whoa whoa WAIT... That is a tough and very boring job to go through hundreds and hundreds of requests >____>

I understand that and totally agree with why they removed it, I just wish they brought it back... Maybe if there was a way to make users sign like a release form before entering... But we this is not the topic onhand... And I think you should rethink your stance on criticising the staff...

I mean look at all the SPAMMERS they have to deal with, I mean they too are suffering from this forum not all mature enough to hold a forum like the T Dome...

They are only human, come on

 

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

Whoa whoa WAIT... That is a tough and very boring job to go through hundreds and hundreds of requests >____>

I understand that and totally agree with why they removed it, I just wish they brought it back... Maybe if there was a way to make users sign like a release form before entering... But we this is not the topic onhand... And I think you should rethink your stance on criticising the staff...

I mean look at all the SPAMMERS they have to deal with, I mean they too are suffering from this forum not all mature enough to hold a forum like the T Dome...

They are only human, come on

Eh.. that wasn't what I was pointing at really..if the staff found some other way to work out acceptances, a ton of people wouldn't have probably been let into the TDome and that means less immature members in there. But hey, the past is the past and you're right. I can't say the staff are lazy. v_v Bad on me.

^^;; Sorry.. that's for the other thread. I got mixed up.

 

[Arcanine]

It's not gonna happen Andy. As much as I'd love to see mature discussions and debates on PC, it'll never happen. The T Dome was living proof of that.

To me the T-Dome was like a place that everyone thought it was ok to flame. I think that's mainly why it got out of hand.


Ok to clear a few things up.

We NEVER let people under 13 in the T-Dome because we got lazy. That was NEVER the reason. Some of the Staff and a ton of the members was mad that it was a "Over 13" forum. So it was changed to an open forum (as in open for everyone).
The reason why it was closed is because all the sex topics and flaming got out of hand.

 

[Spectrum]

God's Golden Child was banned for PMing hentai. As I said, the ban was temporary.

You just broke a rule.

As for staff dealing with members, the way they act and such, if you feel that a certain staff member has punished a person (that you think hasn't been warned or banned before) more than a certain other individual, then you're welcome to dispute it with someone like me or Erica.

This is where the irony lies. It's the person's business, nobody else's, but when the person gets banned, off-site contacting is the only way to fix things.

 

[Spectrum]

I was under the impression that since guests can read posts and nothing more, they wouldn't be able to access that. Sorry.

 

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

Regarding the "rule breaking", it can be disclosed if another staff member agrees to it being said, provided a discussion doesn't leech out of it. Plus, Members cannot ask, but there are no restrictions with it being disclosed.

There's a contact us link, as well as other email methods.

Oh yes, and how many people would actually have the confidence to talk back to ya'll, when they fear even more punishments coming around to them?

LETS GET BACK ON TOPIC.. restriction of religious issues.. c'mon people..

 

[Blaze]

What is Pokemon (taken from my content @ 706) In the fantastic world of Pok?mon, kids are permitted to become Pok?mon trainers -- and the best of them may some day become Pok?mon masters!

Now, at a Pokemon forum why would Religion even be discussed? Your just asking for a fight...

I mean ask Morkula or anyone frome the T Dome era and even now, I am a devote Catholic who loves defending my religion. However, there is a time and a place for everything and PC is NOT the place to start a holy war.