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I've been breeding a lot of Charmander with Dragon Dance lately (to pass on to Tyranitar) and I was wondering - is a Dragon Dance Charizard > BellyZard viable in the UU environment? I don't like Belly Drum because it cuts Zard's HP in half, and it's already not the most sturdy of Pokemon. I would think that DDZard would last longer and still be a viable - if not as devestating - sweeper, right?
 
Heya, Just recently i have been shiny catching like mad!!! its really paying off, i've caught loads of cool shinies Drowzee being one of them. I am looking to EV train one and perhaps put it in a shiny UU based team i was planning to make. As moves like baton pass and wish are not realistic for my Hypno's that i have caught through hard work i was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on some movesets, i will first give the natures+abilities of the hypno i have found to help:

Adamant/Insomnia
Calm/Forewarn
Jolly/Forewarn
Brave/Insomnia
A few neutral natured ones with both of the abilities.

Any suggestions will do, i like to be unpredictable with my sets so all are welcome.

Thanks in advance.
 
gee2k8 said:
Heya, Just recently i have been shiny catching like mad!!! its really paying off, i've caught loads of cool shinies Drowzee being one of them. I am looking to EV train one and perhaps put it in a shiny UU based team i was planning to make. As moves like baton pass and wish are not realistic for my Hypno's that i have caught through hard work i was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on some movesets, i will first give the natures+abilities of the hypno i have found to help:

Adamant/Insomnia
Calm/Forewarn
Jolly/Forewarn
Brave/Insomnia
A few neutral natured ones with both of the abilities.

Any suggestions will do, i like to be unpredictable with my sets so all are welcome.

Thanks in advance.
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Calm is a great nature, Forewarn is a terrible ability :/ If you'd be willing to rebreed to get a calm one with Insomnia, it would pay off. Adamant one is only usable from an event (Which, since your breeding, you can't do :P). Sets are here
 
How does everyone feel about Cloyster as a lead?

Cloyster
Bold Nature/Hates to lose
Shell Armor
EV's (150 hp)(78 def)(80 satt)(252 sdef)
Spikes
Poison Spikes
Ice Beam/Ice Shard
Surf

I'm undecided on an item yet, although leftovers would be good. I'm considering replacing Surf with Rest and giving him Chesto Berry though, that way if I meet something that can't 2HKO, I can set up more Spikes and T Spikes.

Sorry if this post is a mess.
 
gee2k8 said:
Heya, Just recently i have been shiny catching like mad!!! its really paying off, i've caught loads of cool shinies Drowzee being one of them. I am looking to EV train one and perhaps put it in a shiny UU based team i was planning to make. As moves like baton pass and wish are not realistic for my Hypno's that i have caught through hard work i was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on some movesets, i will first give the natures+abilities of the hypno i have found to help:

Adamant/Insomnia
Calm/Forewarn
Jolly/Forewarn
Brave/Insomnia
A few neutral natured ones with both of the abilities.

Any suggestions will do, i like to be unpredictable with my sets so all are welcome.

Thanks in advance.
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Well every defensive Hypno kinda requires Wish or its kinda useless and even things like chimecho outclass it..lol

But sure, although forewarn is kinda ehh...oh well.

Hypno@Choice Band
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 hp
Adamant Nature
- Fire Punch
- Zen Headbutt
- Switcheroo / Trick
- ThunderPunch / Ice Punch

Choice Bander.

Hypno@Salac Berry
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 hp
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Meditate
- Fire Punch
- Zen Headbutt

Sub + Salac. Sub, Meditate behind the sub and activate salac and try to sweep.


Hypno@Leftovers
252 ATT / 200 Sp.Def / 58 dEF
Calm Nature
- Rest
- Slep Talk
- Toxic / Psychic / Seismic Toss
- Toxic / Psychic / Seismic Toss

Rest talker.


Good job for you im good at making wacky sets lol
 
Well, Chimeco outclasses it anyway, because like me, Chimeco is AWESOME.*saxaphone music*.

Give me a Wigglytuff set.

I also have another question. Of all the pokemon based on animals, why the hell aren't there any PLATYPUS pokes out there?
 
sims796 said:
Well, Chimeco outclasses it anyway, because like me, Chimeco is AWESOME.*saxaphone music*.

Give me a Wigglytuff set.

I also have another question. Of all the pokemon based on animals, why the hell aren't there any PLATYPUS pokes out there?
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Wigglytuff@Leftovers
20 HP / 252 DEF / 236 SP.DEF
Calm Nature
- Thunderwave / Sing
- Stealth Rock / Light Screen / Reflect
- Seismic Toss
- Wish

"support" :x
 
Farasha said:
I've been breeding a lot of Charmander with Dragon Dance lately (to pass on to Tyranitar) and I was wondering - is a Dragon Dance Charizard > BellyZard viable in the UU environment? I don't like Belly Drum because it cuts Zard's HP in half, and it's already not the most sturdy of Pokemon. I would think that DDZard would last longer and still be a viable - if not as devestating - sweeper, right?
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I guess it would be viable, but DD Zard is kinda weak, but sure.

Charizard@Life Orb
252 ATT / 252 SPEED/6 HP
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Fire Punch / Flare Blitz
- Thunderpunch / Rock Slide / Roost

Something like this ?

Usually for UU though there are better DDers even there.
 
Dark_Azelf said:
Well every defensive Hypno kinda requires Wish or its kinda useless and even things like chimecho outclass it..lol

But sure, although forewarn is kinda ehh...oh well.

Hypno@Choice Band
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 hp
Adamant Nature
- Fire Punch
- Zen Headbutt
- Switcheroo / Trick
- ThunderPunch / Ice Punch

Choice Bander.

Hypno@Salac Berry
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 hp
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Meditate
- Fire Punch
- Zen Headbutt

Sub + Salac. Sub, Meditate behind the sub and activate salac and try to sweep.


Hypno@Leftovers
252 ATT / 200 Sp.Def / 58 dEF
Calm Nature
- Rest
- Slep Talk
- Toxic / Psychic / Seismic Toss
- Toxic / Psychic / Seismic Toss

Rest talker.


Good job for you im good at making wacky sets lol
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Thanks a bunch, this is the kinda stuff i am looking for+ my Adamant one happens to have Insomnia so yay ;).
 
any suggestions for a special sweeper for this team?
or any other improvements for it

ninjask @ liechi berry
252 atk/ 252 speed/4 def
Nature: jolly
- substitute
- baton pass
- swords dance
- aerial ace

kingdra @ wet rock
252 atk/ 64 speed/ 192 Satk
Nature: lonely
- rain dance
- waterfall
- surf
- dragon pulse

dusknoir @ lefties
252 hp/ 52 def/ 204 Sdef
Nature: relaxed
- shadow punch
- trick room
- will-o-wisp
- pain split

blissey @ lefties
252 hp/ 252 def/ 4 Sdef
Nature: bold
- sesmic toss
- softboiled
- thunder wave
- aromatherapy

electivire @ expert belt
4hp / 252 atk/ 252 speed
Nature: adamant
- earthquake
- cross chop
- ice punch
- thunder punch
 
Syndrome said:
Does SpecsZam OHKO (or come near it ) Suicune with Grass knot?
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CM Resttalk Cune (It's got to be a better name for it) with 252 HP, NO investment in Sp. Defence and a neutral nature for Sp. Def goes like
553 Atk vs 266 Def & 404 HP (100 Base Power): (73.76% - 87.13%) the first turn, and then
553 Atk vs 399 Def & 404 HP (100 Base Power): (49.50% - 58.42%) second turn.

252 HP 252 Sp. Defence + natured Cune goes like
553 Atk vs 361 Def & 404 HP (100 Base Power): (54.46% - 64.36%)

So yeah, still a 2HKO no matter what.

If you want Cune to survive, then you could use this spread:

Suicune@Leftovers
252 HP / 64 SP.D/ 188 DEF / 4 SPEED
Calm Nature
- Calm Mind
- Surf
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

With that spread and a CM boost, Suicune will be 2HKO'd by SpecsZam's Grass Knot 0,07% of all tries.

It'll probably be worse off now though, now that it has lost a rather lot of its physical walling ability.
 
^ Actually I was asking that so I would know how my Zam would fair against one, lol. Thanks.
 
Curt_09 said:
How does everyone feel about Cloyster as a lead?

Cloyster
Bold Nature/Hates to lose
Shell Armor
EV's (150 hp)(78 def)(80 satt)(252 sdef)
Spikes
Poison Spikes
Ice Beam/Ice Shard
Surf

I'm undecided on an item yet, although leftovers would be good. I'm considering replacing Surf with Rest and giving him Chesto Berry though, that way if I meet something that can't 2HKO, I can set up more Spikes and T Spikes.

Sorry if this post is a mess.
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Heysup from Smogon posted a pretty good Cloyster Anti-Lead that apparently works well in UU, even with the absence of Crobat and Shaymin.

https://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1917628&postcount=1

Here's the post with the moveset and description of how it works.
 
Dark_Azelf said:
I guess it would be viable, but DD Zard is kinda weak, but sure.

Charizard@Life Orb
252 ATT / 252 SPEED/6 HP
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Fire Punch / Flare Blitz
- Thunderpunch / Rock Slide / Roost

Something like this ?

Usually for UU though there are better DDers even there.
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Actually no...

Charizard@Salac Berry
Jolly Nature
252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
* Substitute
* Dragon Dance
* Fire Punch
* Earthquake

Basically, BellyZard, but running DD instead.
 
Rain Dance Team (RMT)

Team intended for 2x2 battles I'm kinda bad at this so help would be appreciated. thanks in advance

AMBIPOM @ Life Orb/Damp Rock
Technican - Adamant
Hp 6/Attack 252/Speed 252
-Fake Out
-Double Hit
-U-Turn
-Rain Dance
**Ambipom is my lead with the basic stuff and rain dance
to help the other members of the team.

LEDIAN @ Salac Berry/Focus Sash/Leftovers
Early Bird - Calm/Careful
Hp 252/Sp.Defense 252/Speed 6
-Agility
-Swords Dance
-Baton Pass
-Light Screen/Reflect
**Used fo passing speed and attack to my physical sweeper.

XATU @ Leftovers/Focus Sash/Damp Rock
Early Bird - Timid
Hp 6/Sp.Attack 252/Speed 252
-Haze/Protect/Shadow Ball/Heat wave
-Wish
-Psychic
-Rain Dance
**Uses rain dance and tries to sweep non dark pokemon with psychic,wish for healing reasons and I'm not too sure about Haze.

PARASECT @ Leftovers/Occa Berry
Dry Skin - Adamant
Hp 160/Attack 188/Sp.Defense162
-Spore
-Aromatheraphy
-Seed Bomb/X-Scissor
-Knock Off/X-Scissor
**knock off is for annoying items and spore is to tame 'em a little first.

LUDICOLO @ Leftovers
Swift Swim - Modest
Sp.Attack 252/Sp.Defense 176/Speed 82
-Leech Seed
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Energy Ball
**with around 190 speed x2 is 380 speed is amazing and its attack is great along with good defense this thin is a beast.

TOXICROAK @ Life Orb
Dry Skin - Jolly
Hp 6/Attack 252/Speed 252
-Sucker Punch
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Brick Break
**with Ledian giving it attack and speed it can out speed alot of things
and knock a Blissey out in one hit.

Give me ideas for improvement and help me make it work!
 
Farasha said:
Actually no...

Charizard@Salac Berry
Jolly Nature
252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
* Substitute
* Dragon Dance
* Fire Punch
* Earthquake

Basically, BellyZard, but running DD instead.
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Thing is though belly zard can actually, you know DO something to bulky pokemon. DD Zard cannot do this without coverage. So you might aswell run T-Punch for the 2hko on Milotic or Rock Slide to hit Altaria etc or just plain Roost so you wont die as easily, i mean zard isnt the bulkiest but its still useful. Still my point stands "Altaria, Feraligatr do this set better".
 
Ok, I need to know how many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop. This is crucial team building infomation that will determine the outcome of my team.

Oh, and where do I go to determine the usage for the month?

But seriously, I need those numbers. HOW MANY LICKS?!
 
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