RMT, please?

Using gengar to resist stuff will come back to bite you. Dusknoir is more reliable since it can take hits he's not immune to :P Spiritomb works too, or any somewhat bulky ghost.
 
Personal preference, I'm one who likes speed, and with a single TWave even a fat biatch like Blissey can outspeed things.
 
I suppose, but I need a way around the fighting weak besides Gliscor, since if he falls Im open to geting sweeped, and I don't want to lose Vaporeon or Boah, who seem the most replacable

I prefer Toxic for being evil.
 
Posting to say that Tyraniboah is perhaps the WORST lead, like ever. It's built to switch in (key words) to stuff like Blissey and non-EQ Snorlax, set a Sub, and kill the opposing counter.

Honestly though, why bother with Substitute when Blissey's going to switch out anyway? The set I run is Fire Blast/Ice Beam/Crunch/Focus Punch, and let me tell you that I works much better, if you have good prediction that is.



NO just NO, never run Dark Pulse on Heatran. Just use Fire Blast over Flamethrower. And neutral Fire Blast does more damage than super effective Dark Pulse. Leaving room for, another move like a Hidden Power or even Explosion.
 
I like Boah lead. Everyone thinks it ISN'T boah and switches into a physical wall anyways.

Dark Pulse was filler, I think I'll go for HP... Ice makes the most sense.

And a way around the fighting weakness... I want to keep Wish Support since Boah+Wish support=pownage, what I need is a special wall that resists fighting... um... Hypno??? >_<

OMG GOOD PLAN!! Uxie!!! Well maybe not, why are all the special walls ALSO mixed walls -_-, unless I use a mixed wall and just pump the special into it!
 
Calm Mind Spiritomb... maybe. It would be nice having something that totally resist fighting around. I was actually looking at Grumpig, but Im not sure about its ability to receive fighting hits from stronger Pokemon. Hmm, whats CMTombs set anyways? It could fit, maybe.
 
Midnight Winged said:
Calm Mind Spiritomb... maybe. It would be nice having something that totally resist fighting around. I was actually looking at Grumpig, but Im not sure about its ability to receive fighting hits from stronger Pokemon. Hmm, whats CMTombs set anyways? It could fit, maybe.
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Spritomb @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Smogon's EVS: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature (+SATK, -ATK)
- Hypnosis
- Nasty Plot / Calm Mind
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power Fighting. That is, Smogons spreads suck so you should probably be wary. :O Nature looks reasonable, though.
 
Tortured_Soul said:
That isn't Smogon's spread is it? Hmmm, yep, it is crap.

~T_S
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Yeah, I'm not too great at EVs, but would 252 HP / 40 SATK / 160 SDEF / 48 DEF be a better spread? In my opnion, it doesn't need max Special Attack. -_-
 
It 2HKO's Blissey with HP Fighting 70 that way.

Ah, Midnight, I hope you're not removing Vappy for Grumpig, cause then Weavile annihiliates you, and Vappy is the only pokemon that doesn't have a SE Weak, but it'll be easy pickings too. Spiritomb can run HP Fighting very effectively, and can OHKO no FS Weavile.

~T_S
 
Tortured_Soul said:
It 2HKO's Blissey with HP Fighting 70 that way.

Ah, Midnight, I hope you're not removing Vappy for Grumpig, cause then Weavile annihiliates you, and Vappy is the only pokemon that doesn't have a SE Weak, but it'll be easy pickings too. Spiritomb can run HP Fighting very effectively, and can OHKO no FS Weavile.

~T_S
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Focus Sash sucks anyways since few things can run it effectively, like SD Weavile, which the CB variant is MUCH better... Weavile is NOT an example of a set-up pokemon.. Especially with SD...
 
MarrilandOwningPeeps said:
Focus Sash sucks anyways since few things can run it effectively, like SD Weavile, which the CB variant is MUCH better... Weavile is NOT an example of a set-up pokemon.. Especially with SD...
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Yes, but Weavile can 2HKO with Night Slash/Ice Punch. (Forgot Sandstorm though, disregard FS)

Midnight Winged said:
Focus Sahs Weavile isn't a problem, I have Sandstorm guys...
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See above Midnight, I corrected, but you do have a major Weavile Weak. :(

~T_S
 
Midnight Winged said:
Focus Sahs Weavile isn't a problem, I have Sandstorm guys...
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I know, I was backing you up stating that Focus Sash suckss since few things run it effectively, FS sucks for the reason you gave.. But Wish Support on Blissey if you can run it effectively is pretty nice as well.
 
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