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RMT : Team White

Red Rain

Red Rain is coming down...
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    Welcome to another of my RMT's and yet another revamp of my team. Dunno where Team White came from, other than White is my surname and original and all that pulava; Team Red may have been better, but anyway.... I am more positive about this team than any of my others, and I just love it. :) I hope that I learn my team is simply flawless, yet that isn't going to happen. :P All critique is much appreciated and is taken into account at all times. Thankyou.

    Team Changes:

    • Blissey's EV's have been changed from 252 Sp.Def, 252 Def, 6 HP to 40 HP, 252 Def, 216 Sp.Def.
    • Machamp's EV's changed and Payback > Fire Punch.
    • Salamence EV's changed to outspeed Lucario.

    Machamp @ Choice Scarf (Male)
    Ability: No Guard
    EVs: 12 HP, 252 Atk, 242 Spd.
    Adamant Nature
    - Ice Punch
    - Thunder Punch
    - DynamicPunch
    - Payback


    My Anti-lead and Physical Sweeper. I thought Choice Scarf would work seeing as though I only need to select one move for whichever lead I am faced against. Ice Punch for Roserade and Hippowdon, Thunderpunch for Gyarados, Salamence & Skarmory. DynamicPunch for STAB coverage and Payback to kick ass against Cesselia. If I am faced with the faster Azelf and Gengar, I can switch out to Spiritomb.

    Spiritomb @ Leftovers (Male)
    Ability: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Sp.Def
    Careful Nature
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Shadow Ball
    - W-O-W

    My Rest-Talking, Anti-Spin Special Attacker. W-O-W to cripple those Physical Sweepers, Rest to heal HP. Shadow Ball to actually attack and get Super-effective STAB on Gengar, Cresselia and Azelf and Sleep Talk is self explanatory. Another awesome Pokemon, and works well in helping Machamp when that can't do anything.


    Tentacruel @ Toxic Sludge (Male)
    Ability: Liquid Ooze
    EVs: 204 HP/172 Sp.Def/40 Spd/92 Sp.Atk
    Calm Nature
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Toxic Spikes
    - Rapid Spin

    Fantastic T-Spiker and Spinner. A utility with nice type coverage with Surf and Ice Beam. Toxic Sludge lets me not go OVERKILL on the Leftovers and the EV's are standard.


    Tangrowth @ Leftovers (Female)
    Ability: Leaf Guard
    EVs: 252 HP, 228 Def, 28 Spd
    Impish Nature
    - Power Whip
    - Knock Off
    - Leech Seed
    - Sleep Powder

    My favourite Pokemon in this team. I LOVE this thing, it's brilliant. Knock-Off makes her unique and let's me know what type of set my opponents Pokemon may be running. Power Whip for great STAB. Leech Seed to help it work as a superb defensive Wall and Sleep Powder for status. AWESOME.


    BLACK COLOUR FOR BLISSEY AS PINK IS TOO LOUD AND MAKES EYES BLEED.
    Blissey @ Leftovers (Female)
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 216 Sp.Def, 252 Def, 40 HP
    Calm Nature
    - Softboiled
    - Seismic Toss
    - Stealth Rock
    - Aromatherapy

    Standard Blissey, the Special Wall and Cleric-ing Legend. Softboiled is great and should be on every Blissey, well except WishBliss. Seismic Toss for constant, reliable damage. T-Wave for Status would be in slot 3, yet with T-Spikes, Sleep Powder and W-O-W, I think Stealth Rock will be much more helpful to the team. Aromatherapy to fulfill it's Cleric Criteria.


    Salamence @ Leftovers (Female)
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 82 HP/176 Spd/252 Atk
    Adamant Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Dragon Claw
    - Stone Edge
    - Earthquake

    DDMence, a fantastic late-game sweeper. I've used a lot of hyphens in this thread. DD is obvious; Dragon Claw for STAB, Stone Edge for Fliers and general power and Earthquake because I haven't used it once yet, which is an achievement in itself for seeing how popular the bloody move is. Hopefully, this beauty can help me end my battles on a high.


    Thanks very much for reading, please R-M-T. HYPHENS! :)
     
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    Changing the font (as in color) is bad. =/

    Spiritomb needs more Pain Split imo.

    As for Blissey, go 40 HP | 252 Def | 216 SpD.
     
    I'll change those EVs now. :) And, I'll tone down Tenta and Blissey's font colouring, they are a tad loud. Thanks for you input.
     
    I'll change those EVs now. :) And, I'll tone down Tenta and Blissey's font colouring, they are a tad loud. Thanks for you input.

    What is the point in a Scarf Machamp with no speed evs, you'll like get outsped by Blissey =/ and heaven forbid if that blissey is scarfed lol XD.


    Also i would like to bring to your attention fire punch is poop, as it hits Bronzong THE SAME as a STAB Dynamic punch

    75 + 75 = 150

    100 + 50 (stab) = 150

    Use Payback to hit cress and what not >> F-Punch.


    12 HP / 252 Atk / 244 Speed @Jolly on Machamp outruns Jolly Garchomp.


    As for mence, bump its speed to at least 280 or Lucario smashes you. (82 HP / 252 ATT / 176 SPEED)
     
    Thankyou very much Dark_Azelf, really appreciate that. Machamp's EV's are daft, I really need to change those. I hate facing Lucario's, so the advice on Salamence really helps. Thanks. :)

    Anymore crit would be appreciated.
     
    Changing the font (as in color) is bad. =/

    Spiritomb needs more Pain Split imo.

    As for Blissey, go 40 HP | 252 Def | 216 SpD.

    where'd my post go...

    blissey need hp more than sp. def cause it has enough of that. it's evs should be 252 Hp / 252 Def / 6 Sp. Def.
     
    Thank you Red Rain!
    You think SR on Blissey works also.
    I get laughed at when I use it.

    In my opinion, Anti-Lead Champ
    should use Substitute instead of Fire Punch.
    Substitute helps to avoid status some
    leads might try to push on you.
    In that case, use Life Orb or Expert Belt
    instead.

    Spiritomb works better without Resttalk
    in my opinion, instead use Pain Split.
    Perhaps instead of WoW to cripple
    Physical attackers, use Taunt to force
    them to attack you physically then
    hit them in the face with a Sucker Punch.

    Thats just what I think, =].


     
    Thankyou for your opinions Seth. Nice sig aswell btw. :)

    I might use Taunt actually, I'll consider that. The only problem for me with Pain Split is that Spiritomb would no longer be a Sleep Absorber, yet that might not be that bad, yet it's nice to suprise the opponent. I'll conside that too. :)
     
    where'd my post go...

    blissey need hp more than sp. def cause it has enough of that. it's evs should be 252 Hp / 252 Def / 6 Sp. Def.

    Its a special wall, most people rely on it take most of, if not all special hits and getting owned by Specs Luke, NP Porygon -z, NP Togekiss, Specs Gar and to some extent Taunt/Metal Sound Heatran and NP Azelf and many more special threats. Getting toppled by the aforementioned isnt the amount of special durability most people want. Hell it ran Calm in the uber metagame last gen, and OU special sweepers this gen by FAR surpass the Uber special sweepers of last gen.

    Investing HP doesnt make a significant difference either, wow 6% more durability physically, when you can have ~20% more sp.def durability, thats is worth it imo. You dont loose much def either, 119 def of Calm to the 130 def of bold.
     
    in my diamond, I have blissey with 252 Hp / 252 Def / 6 Sp. Def and it's saved me a bunch of times and np azelf did ~ 10-20% on my blissey.

    EDIT: the one you gave is the standard spread. it's just either I haven't played diamond in a long time or I gave the standard set from a few months ago.
     
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    Dude...Are you serious? Ingame, a Magikarp could kick some ass, and NP Azelf in DP is a joke; it has a crappy (if any) EV spread, it's strogest move is Confusion, etc...

    That was a waste of a post to be honest. And Blissey NEEDS SpD EV's to handle things like Togekiss and Specsluke, or else they just beat her in 2-3 hits, which is sad.
     
    I do feel much more confident with this new Blissey EV spread. Seems much more practical and I can tend to make EV mistakes now and then.

    Anymore critique?
     
    The best blissey spread i have found is

    80hp, 252def, 176 spD, works ok in my mind
     
    Nice team, but don't think your Blissey will be stopped by Ghosts?
     
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