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Ham

asdf tl;dr
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    Ninjask (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Speed Boost
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Substitute
    - Swords Dance

    Umbreon (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Synchronize
    EVs: 208 HP / 128 Def / 172 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Mean Look
    - Substitute
    - Wish

    Mr. Mime (F) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Soundproof
    EVs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Trick

    Smeargle (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Own Tempo
    EVs: 200 Def / 108 Spd / 200 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Belly Drum
    - Ingrain
    - Spore

    Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 204 HP / 252 Def / 52 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Acid Armor
    - Baton Pass
    - Substitute
    - Surf

    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 80 Def / 252 Spd / 176 SAtk
    Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
    - Baton Pass/Sleep Talk(depends on server mod)
    - Drill Peck
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Thunderbolt
     

    VanirElf

    Dragon Trainer
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    interesting team, not many common weaknesses.

    ...I don't like legendaries though so yeah....

    5/10 you team seems solid, you could however use some more straight
    forward attackers...the baton pass thing well I think you should limit that
    to 2 of your pokemon but it seems to be a theme with you so kudos on that.

    so yeah anyway nice team...except for the legend...
     

    SRV

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    Ham said:
    Ninjask (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Speed Boost
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Protect
    - Substitute
    - Swords Dance

    Umbreon (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Synchronize
    EVs: 208 HP / 128 Def / 172 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Mean Look
    - Substitute
    - Wish

    Mr. Mime (F) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Soundproof
    EVs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Substitute

    Smeargle (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Own Tempo
    EVs: 200 Def / 108 Spd / 200 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Spore
    - Mean Look
    - Lock-On
    - Sheer Cold

    Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 204 HP / 252 Def / 52 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Protect
    - Wish

    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 80 Def / 252 Spd / 176 SAtk
    Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
    - Substitute
    - Thunder Wave
    - Hidden Power [Ice]/[Grass]
    - Thunderbolt
    Click to expand...

    Those are my suggestions. Too lazy to bother with the EVs and items.
     

    ? Bleep ?

    Drunken Latios
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    jask needs protect as a last ditch attacking move, nothing he passes to will need the full +6 speed to function properly.

    vaporeon needs full specdef IMO, yes its wierd but it helps and is still 3h from a non DD mence... and it survives against magneton.
     

    Ham

    asdf tl;dr
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    SRV, you do understand what the team does, right?

    you understand why that smeargle fails then, right?

    you understand why protect's a waste, right?
     

    SRV

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    Lol. What are you talking about? Sexy?.....XD

    Yes I understand why you created that team, and what it does. Build up the stats and Baton Pass, Duh. But you should limit that to only a few party members. That Smeargle definitely does not fail. Once you get many speed boosts, switch to Smeargle, if you can predict a switch or power up.
     

    Ham

    asdf tl;dr
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    VanirElf said:
    the baton pass thing well I think you should limit that
    to 2 of your pokemon
    Click to expand...
    O_O

    what the hell?

    do you know what's even going on?
     

    Ham

    asdf tl;dr
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    they both fail. I obviously cared if I took the time to tell you they fail and you don't understand the team.
     

    Shadow Tyranitar

    never to be purified
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    hydro pump over surf on vappy i think. i don't know why people use fb>f-thrower, but not hydro pump>surf. anyway, enough special attack to KO Weezing.

    Taunt>Wish on Umbreon. or else weezing comes in to ruin your day. I would even suggest Taunt on Smeargle for the same reasons; Spore, BP to jask and swords Dance there for attack support.

    hope i helped somewhat.
     

    orangekows

    I am so hot
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    SRV said:
    Why even post your team if you do not care about the suggestions.
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    its because you're giving ****ty suggestions. spore/mean look/lock on/sheer cold is a piece if **** and it fails on baton pass teams ^_^

    ROFL trickmime without trick.

    your vaporeon set is pointless on a baton pass team
     

    Insanity Mawile

    OGMWTFBBQTEHSTFU!!!!!!!!1
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    Shadow Tyranitar said:
    hydro pump over surf on vappy i think. i don't know why people use fb>f-thrower, but not hydro pump>surf. anyway, enough special attack to KO Weezing.

    Taunt>Wish on Umbreon. or else weezing comes in to ruin your day. I would even suggest Taunt on Smeargle for the same reasons; Spore, BP to jask and swords Dance there for attack support.

    hope i helped somewhat.
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    lol Hydro Pump fails at life.

    Ninjask (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Speed Boost
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Substitute
    - Swords Dance
    k

    Umbreon (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Synchronize
    EVs: 208 HP / 128 Def / 172 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Mean Look
    - Substitute/Taunt
    - Moonlight
    Umbreon <3s taunt but that's just imo.

    Mr. Mime (F) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Soundproof
    EVs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Trick
    k

    Smeargle (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Own Tempo
    EVs: 200 Def / 108 Spd / 200 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Belly Drum
    - Ingrain
    - Spore
    yeah Sexgle

    Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 204 HP / 252 Def / 52 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Acid Armor
    - Baton Pass
    - Substitute
    - Surf

    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 80 Def / 252 Spd / 176 SAtk
    Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
    - Baton Pass/Sleep Talk(depends on server mod)
    - Drill Peck
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Thunderbolt
    HP Grass for Swampy

    Too tired to think of weaknesses
     

    Ham

    asdf tl;dr
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    Ice demon said:
    Taunt > substitute on umbry.Especially considering the phazing problem.
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    there has not been a phazing problem.

    and Swampert isn't a problem at the end of the chain, it cannot OHKO Zapdos, and HP Ice is a simple 2HKO.
     

    orangekows

    I am so hot
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    but i love medicham as a reciever. i use

    smeargle@starf
    belly drum
    ingrain
    spore
    baton pass

    to medicham

    brick break
    shadow ball
    recover
    baton pass

    and if any idiot says that there's nothing for medicham to baton pass to, think about it ^_^
     

    Bliksem

    The Author Pokemon
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    Shadow Tyranitar said:
    hydro pump over surf on vappy i think. i don't know why people use fb>f-thrower, but not hydro pump>surf. anyway, enough special attack to KO Weezing.
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    Hydro Pump: 120 BP, 80% Acc
    Surf: 95 BP, 100% Acc

    Fire Blast: 120 BP, 85% Acc
    Flamethrower: 95 BP, 100% Acc

    That's why people don't use Hydro Pump. The increase in power isn't worth the horrible Accuracy, while Fire Blast's accuracy is like Meteor Mash.
     

    SRV

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    Ingrain makes the pokemon unable to switch out..or maybe it doesn't matter if you're using Baton Pass?
     

    orangekows

    I am so hot
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    people use hydro pump on phsical sweepers like feraligatr, poliwrath and friends while people use surf on tanks/special sweepers/etc.

    fire blast has enough accuracy that alot of people use it over flamethrower.

    Ingrain makes the pokemon unable to switch out..or maybe it doesn't matter if you're using Baton Pass?
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    i lol'ed. ingrain is used on baton pass teams so roar has no effect. and it can be baton pass'ed so it doesn't matter if you can't switch out. its also useful for the 1/16th hp recovery each turn.
     

    Ham

    asdf tl;dr
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    Hydro Pump IS NOT SUPER EFFECTIVE ON SKARMORY.

    Fire Blast is.
     
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