4th Gen Rotom's status

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Rotom is not a legendary Pokemon. He simply has music that is used when encountering a legendary Pokemon. His situation is very similar to Drifloon and Lapras (in GSC) even though you can only get one.

 

[Aquilae]

It does not matter whether Rotom is legendary or not. The only thing you should think about is whether it is banned by whatever rules you are playing on.

Community X, bans Magikarp. Therefore you should play by Community X's rules.
Community Y does not ban Magikarp, but bans Weedle a pokemon that is in your main team on community X, therefore you should alter your team, or not play there.

Regarding its status, Rotom is not a legendary as it can produce Eggs that hatch into its own kind freeing it from the legendary IV restriction, some sets of IVs cannot be produced through wild encounters, and are only obtainable through breeding. Suicune, Raikou etc cannot breed so they cannot have those IVs, eg. Quirky 31/31/31/31/31/31.
A legendary can only be obtained once per game normally (through wild encounter), and Rotom does not suffer from this as it can breed. Event pokemon can be obtained repeatedly and might have different IVs but Events are very different from a real game, in terms of this discussion it can be counted as legal AR.

 

[airconditioning]

It does not matter whether Rotom is legendary or not. The only thing you should think about is whether it is banned by whatever rules you are playing on.

Community X, bans Magikarp. Therefore you should play by Community X's rules.
Community Y does not ban Magikarp, but bans Weedle a pokemon that is in your main team on community X, therefore you should alter your team, or not play there.

That is absolutely fantastic and I am sure that everyone in this thread is only concerned with Rotom's battling prowess.

Regarding its status, Rotom is not a legendary as it can produce Eggs that hatch into its own kind freeing it from the legendary IV restriction, some sets of IVs cannot be produced through wild encounters, and are only obtainable through breeding. Suicune, Raikou etc cannot breed so they cannot have those IVs, eg. Quirky 31/31/31/31/31/31.
A legendary can only be obtained once per game normally (through wild encounter), and Rotom does not suffer from this as it can breed.

For the record, Phione can breed, and it's considered Legendary.

What makes Rotom (or any Pokemon, for that matter) Legendary isn't due to a number of factors or requirements. Legendaries are only Legends because Nintendo says they are. And according to Nintendo, Rotom isn't a Legendary.

 

[Kirioroshi]

i think there was one eevee in R/B does that make it a legendary?

i've seen trainers with rotoms in the Battle Tower, so i doubt its a legendary.
but there was an exception.. someone once said something about a latios/andtheotherone being in the battle frontier. but that was gamesharks fault.

 

[Hadim Sinan Pasha]

Manaphy is a Legendary and he produces eggs. They hatch as Phione, which I know doesn't evolve, but still, Manaphy breeds into a baby pokemon which is also a legendary. So, based on this, I'll say Rotom is a legendary. Rotom is a legendary. End of debate.

Kirioshi:If you've ever reached the Tower Tycoon, you might've seen that he sometimes uses Heatran. Heatran's legendary but Palmer still uses him/her.

 

[Matt-O]

Rotom isn't a legendary. He has crappy stats and moves, can breed more Rotoms, and is encountered at level 15. Every other legendary ever had a base stat total of 580 or greater. Rotom has 440. Every other legendary was encoutered at at least level 40. Rotom is found at 15. Part of the definition of being a legend is that you cannot breed and produce more of that species. Rotom can.

 

[Aquilae]

For the record, Phione can breed, and it's considered Legendary.

What makes Rotom (or any Pokemon, for that matter) Legendary isn't due to a number of factors or requirements. Legendaries are only Legends because Nintendo says they are. And according to Nintendo, Rotom isn't a Legendary.

I would like to know what definition of legendary you are talking about. Phione is not a legendary by my definition because it can produce more of its kind and does not suffer from IV restrictions.

 

[GS the Bounty Hunter]

Manaphy is a Legendary and he produces eggs. They hatch as Phione, which I know doesn't evolve, but still, Manaphy breeds into a baby pokemon which is also a legendary. So, based on this, I'll say Rotom is a legendary. Rotom is a legendary. End of debate.

Kirioshi:If you've ever reached the Tower Tycoon, you might've seen that he sometimes uses Heatran. Heatran's legendary but Palmer still uses him/her.

No,NOT end of debate.With your answer atleast.

As AC posted:

*When Rotom is encountered, the music is the same as legendary encounters although it is not classified as one. Rotom is, to date, the only non-legendary Pokémon to do this.
*It is the only Generation IV Pokémon not in the Sinnoh Dex that is neither legendary nor an evolution of a Pokémon from previous generations.

I have alot of faith in Bulbapedia.

 

[kazuya.]

I would say no.

Apart from its stat, Rotom's base EXP is considered "medium fast". All the legendaries have the base EXP from "medium slow" to "slow".

I think the reason why the legendary music is used is to add a more eerie feeling to Old Chateau.

 

[airconditioning]

I would like to know what definition of legendary you are talking about. Phione is not a legendary by my definition because it can produce more of its kind and does not suffer from IV restrictions.

By my definition, 1 + 2 = Fish. Just because he's not a Legendary by your definition does not mean that you aren't dead wrong. Simply put, your definition of Legendary is stupid.

There is no definition or criteria to being a Legendary Pokemon- a Pokemon is ONLY Legendary if Nintendo says it is. That's that.

Is Phione a Legendary?

Even though Legendaries can't usually breed, you do breed Manaphy to get a Phione - so yes, Phione is a Legendary Pokemon! But remember, Phione will never evolve into Manaphy.

The debate on Phione is settled, and has been settled for a while. Simple as that. As for Rotom:

*When Rotom is encountered, the music is the same as legendary encounters although it is not classified as one. Rotom is, to date, the only non-legendary Pokémon to do this.
*It is the only Generation IV Pokémon not in the Sinnoh Dex that is neither legendary nor an evolution of a Pokémon from previous generations.

I WILL KEEP POSTING THIS UNTIL YOU PEOPLE REALIZE THAT ROTOM IS NOT A LEGENDARY, NO MATTER WHAT IMAGINARY CRITERIA YOU JUDGE HIM BY. HE IS OFFICIALLY NOT A LEGEND. End of story.

 

[Eruption]

Manaphy is a Legendary and he produces eggs. They hatch as Phione, which I know doesn't evolve, but still, Manaphy breeds into a baby pokemon which is also a legendary. So, based on this, I'll say Rotom is a legendary. Rotom is a legendary. End of debate.

Kirioshi:If you've ever reached the Tower Tycoon, you might've seen that he sometimes uses Heatran. Heatran's legendary but Palmer still uses him/her.

No its not end of the debate.

Look at the previous page for whats the big differences for them two.

Rotom = Not Legendary
Rotom = Not Semi-Legendary

 

[sneaky sneasel]

seriously guys think about it how many legendaries do you catch at lv. 15

 

[Crotina]

yeah... i think that it is a 50 Percent legend...

 

[Eruption]

yeah... i think that it is a 50 Percent legend...

It can breed though.

Think about it, one of that species means legendary (except for in Arcanine's case).

Rotom can breed meaning you can have an unlimited amount of them, okay you have legendary music in the battle but thats doesnt mean its half legendary.

Unlimited amount. Low Stats. Easy to catch. Caught at low level. Also, your normal in-game player has at least one legendary in their party, Rotom is barely in anyone's in-game party because they dont see him as legendary.

 

[GS the Bounty Hunter]

Okay. Let's get this straight. There is absolutely NO SUCH THING as Semi-Legend,Half-Legend,Kinda' of a Legend,50% Legend,or "i thnk it is knda a lgnd bcause it gt dat muzik."

By Bulbapedia it is NOT a legend.

 

[Matt-O]

Okay for once and for all, ROTOM ISN'T A LEGEND! Here's why. All legends are caught in the game at Lvl.40 or higher. Rotom is at Lvl.15. The base stats of all legends total 580 (I'm not counting Phione cause I'm not sure of his status). Rotom's total is 440. Legends can't breed and produce more of their own. Rotom can. Legends all grow slowly (might be some that grow medium slow, not sure). Rotom grows medium fast. Most legends are in a movie that directly involves them. You will never see a Rotom movie.

 

[AJ™]

You will never see a Rotom movie.

I see it now,

"Rotom! The monster from the TV!"

 

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yeah... i think that it is a 50 Percent legend...

What the hell does that mean? No, bad PC poster. *smacks with newspaper*

Manaphy is a Legendary and he produces eggs. They hatch as Phione, which I know doesn't evolve, but still, Manaphy breeds into a baby pokemon which is also a legendary. So, based on this, I'll say Rotom is a legendary. Rotom is a legendary. End of debate.

Kirioshi:If you've ever reached the Tower Tycoon, you might've seen that he sometimes uses Heatran. Heatran's legendary but Palmer still uses him/her.

No, it's the end of debate with a dumb, know-it-all logic like that. And you say Heatran is used by Palmer? Guess what sunshine, LEGENDARIES HAVE BEEN USED BY BATTLE TOWER HEADS SINCE EMERALD.

I would say no.

Apart from its stat, Rotom's base EXP is considered "medium fast". All the legendaries have the base EXP from "medium slow" to "slow".

I think the reason why the legendary music is used is to add a more eerie feeling to Old Chateau.

I agree, it kind of surprised me at first.

 

[sims796]

First off, both Airconditioning & King Ttar gets >9000 cool points.

Before I got to post, he hit the nail on the head with this first post.

That is absolutely fantastic and I am sure that everyone in this thread is only concerned with Rotom's battling prowess.

Exactly. Not everyoine here is a hardcore pogeymanz player, hell bent on showing our mastery of a game that is geared towards my 6 year old nephew & his mentally ill friend. Yes, he beated the game (his words, not mine). In that logic, we are just as good as him.

For the record, Phione can breed, and it's considered Legendary.

What makes Rotom (or any Pokemon, for that matter) Legendary isn't due to a number of factors or requirements. Legendaries are only Legends because Nintendo says they are. And according to Nintendo, Rotom isn't a Legendary.

EXACTLY

Also, about dat muzik, Cressila is caught in the wild, with REGULAR MUSIC. Kind of a let down. Does that mean she's not a legend? Nope.

And what the bloody hell is 50% legend, anyway?

By my definition, 1 + 2 = Fish. Just because he's not a Legendary by your definition does not mean that you aren't dead wrong. Simply put, your definition of Legendary is stupid.

There is no definition or criteria to being a Legendary Pokemon- a Pokemon is ONLY Legendary if Nintendo says it is. That's that.



The debate on Phione is settled, and has been settled for a while. Simple as that. As for Rotom:



I WILL KEEP POSTING THIS UNTIL YOU PEOPLE REALIZE THAT ROTOM IS NOT A LEGENDARY, NO MATTER WHAT IMAGINARY CRITERIA YOU JUDGE HIM BY. HE IS OFFICIALLY NOT A LEGEND. End of story.

MOAR GOLD. Even wosrt than that April's Fool joke about Pokemon Opal. People nevar wants to face fact. Offical fact.

IT R FACT.

Rotom is NOT a legend. It doesn't matter if you think it is, and have all the crappy logic in the world. Nor does it matter if you THINK it isn't. This is a yes or no question, and offically, no. That's that. If the question was, "do you think Rotom should be legend", that opens up debate.

Okay. Let's get this straight. There is absolutely NO SUCH THING as Semi-Legend,Half-Legend,Kinda' of a Legend,50% Legend,or "i thnk it is knda a lgnd bcause it gt dat muzik."

By Bulbapedia it is NOT a legend.

EVEN MOAR GOLD!!!!!!

Okay for once and for all, ROTOM ISN'T A LEGEND! Here's why. All legends are caught in the game at Lvl.40 or higher. Rotom is at Lvl.15. The base stats of all legends total 580 (I'm not counting Phione cause I'm not sure of his status). Rotom's total is 440. Legends can't breed and produce more of their own. Rotom can. Legends all grow slowly (might be some that grow medium slow, not sure). Rotom grows medium fast. Most legends are in a movie that directly involves them. You will never see a Rotom movie.

By that logic, Ttar is a legend. Manaphy canbreed, though not more of their own, and Lucario is DAMN SURE not a legend, just because it had a movie.

*But sims, that movie was about Mew!!!!*

Shut up, no it wasn't, not entirely.

 

[Aquilae]

Bulbapedia is not a reliable source, for one it may not correctly display Nintendo's stance, and whatmore because it is free to be edited by members of the public. I could argue that the article on Bulbapedia only reflects the sentiments of the writer and not Nintendo itself as it is not explicitly stated anywhere about "Legendary" status in the games.

It is not productive to say that "by your definition 1+2 = Fish ITS WRONG HAHAHA I DON'T CARE" without analysing it properly first. The reason why 1+1 = 2 is accepted by the masses is that it has been properly analysed and thus accepted over many other definitions like 1+1 = 11 or something.