4th Gen Rotom's status

[sims796]

Bulbapedia is not a reliable source, for one it may not correctly display Nintendo's stance, and whatmore because it is free to be edited by members of the public. I could argue that the article on Bulbapedia only reflects the sentiments of the writer and not Nintendo itself as it is not explicitly stated anywhere about "Legendary" status in the games.

It is not productive to say that "by your definition 1+2 = Fish ITS WRONG HAHAHA I DON'T CARE" without analysing it properly first. The reason why 1+1 = 2 is accepted by the masses is that it has been properly analysed and thus accepted over many other definitions like 1+1 = 11 or something.

However, there is a source that OFFICALY determines the legendary status of pokemon, and that's Nintendo. What they say, goes. They said Phione is a legend, & Rotom isn't. Therefor, any outside "opinions", which they all are, are instantly irrelevant. He did analyze it properly, you just took his example out of context. As I said, if this is an opinions thread, asking "do you think Rotom should be legend", then you can use your definitions.

 

[Saberdragon]

1st off, thanks for all the replys and feedback. That being siad, I'll offer my opinions on the various arguments for both sides.

- Rotom's Level makes it a non-legend: In Pokemon Yellow, Mew was encountered at Level 7. So does that mean Mew isn't a Legendary Pokemon? Let's see how far that gets...

- Rotom's battle music is that of a Legendary: Well, the argument about Cresselia having non-Legend music kind of settles that.

- Rotom will never have its own movie: Three words = NEVER SAY NEVER

- Rotom's stats aren't Legendary stats: The answer to that can be found in the Pokemon itself. A Rotom wouldn't really need to battle anyone or anything. All other Legends might in order to protect territory, family, etc. Rotom can just escape into an electrical cable. So that could be the reason Nintendo gave it lower stats.

- Bulbapedia says it isn't a Legendary: Since when did Bulbapedia create the games or the characters?

- Not a Legend because it lives in a TV: Since when does that have anything to do with it?

- Not a Legend because it can breed: The argument about Manaphy is a strong one. However, as stated, Manaphy produces Phione, Rotom produces Rotom. This could be because it's easy to capture Rotom and Nintendo doesn't care if you reproduce yours and pass them out to friends. But, it can be hard to get every other Legend and Nintendo wants people to actually put forth the effort, instead of getting one from a friend so you don't have to do anything.

- Is a Legend because it's grouped with the Legends: So were the Tyranitar and Dragonite families.

- Not a Legend because everyone has one: It could be that it's easy to track Rotom, just follow the electronic destruction. Other Legends aren't as easy to track.

 

[AJ™]

- Rotom's Level makes it a non-legend: In Pokemon Yellow, Mew was encountered at Level 7. So does that mean Mew isn't a Legendary Pokemon? Let's see how far that gets...

HAX!

- Rotom's battle music is that of a Legendary: Well, the argument about Cresselia having non-Legend music kind of settles that.

MUSIC MADE TO MAKE IT SPOOKY!

- Rotom will never have its own movie: Three words = NEVER SAY NEVER

NEVER!

- Rotom's stats aren't Legendary stats: The answer to that can be found in the Pokemon itself. A Rotom wouldn't really need to battle anyone or anything. All other Legends might in order to protect territory, family, etc. Rotom can just escape into an electrical cable. So that could be the reason Nintendo gave it lower stats.

NINTENDO GAVE IT LOWER STATS, CAUSE ITS NOT A LEGEND.

- Bulbapedia says it isn't a Legendary: Since when did Bulbapedia create the games or the characters?

NEVER, IT HAS SOURCES THOUGH!

- Not a Legend because it lives in a TV: Since when does that have anything to do with it?

WHO SAID THAT?

- Not a Legend because it can breed: The argument about Manaphy is a strong one. However, as stated, Manaphy produces Phione, Rotom produces Rotom. This could be because it's easy to capture Rotom and Nintendo doesn't care if you reproduce yours and pass them out to friends. But, it can be hard to get every other Legend and Nintendo wants people to actually put forth the effort, instead of getting one from a friend so you don't have to do anything.

DOESN'T MATTER, ROTOM STILL NOT A LEGEND!

- Is a Legend because it's grouped with the Legends: So were the Tyranitar and Dragonite families.

TTAR AND DRAGONITE NOT LEGENDS, ROTOM = LOSE

- Not a Legend because everyone has one: It could be that it's easy to track Rotom, just follow the electronic destruction. Other Legends aren't as easy to track.

TRUE!

And...
lol@all the answers.

 

[sims796]

To back AJ up...

1st off, thanks for all the replys and feedback. That being siad, I'll offer my opinions on the various arguments for both sides.

- Rotom's Level makes it a non-legend: In Pokemon Yellow, Mew was encountered at Level 7. So does that mean Mew isn't a Legendary Pokemon? Let's see how far that gets...HAX

- Rotom's battle music is that of a Legendary: Well, the argument about Cresselia having non-Legend music kind of settles that.Just about. Muzak means nuthin

- Rotom will never have its own movie: Three words = NEVER SAY NEVER
Movies doesn't mean shrak. Is Lucario a legend? NO WAI!!!!!

- Rotom's stats aren't Legendary stats: The answer to that can be found in the Pokemon itself. A Rotom wouldn't really need to battle anyone or anything. All other Legends might in order to protect territory, family, etc. Rotom can just escape into an electrical cable. So that could be the reason Nintendo gave it lower stats.Yeah, it's a game. That much logic doesn't apply here. In the show, a Weavile's Blizzard is uber strong. In the game, it's weak as hell. Base stats don't apply in the show, so you cannot try to use basic biology for the game. They gave it those base stats because they did.

- Bulbapedia says it isn't a Legendary: Since when did Bulbapedia create the games or the characters?And the encyclopedia says that the Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration. Does that mean the encyclodedia was there?!?!?! Nope, it is infomation

- Not a Legend because it lives in a TV: Since when does that have anything to do with it?Agreed.

- Not a Legend because it can breed: The argument about Manaphy is a strong one. However, as stated, Manaphy produces Phione, Rotom produces Rotom. This could be because it's easy to capture Rotom and Nintendo doesn't care if you reproduce yours and pass them out to friends. But, it can be hard to get every other Legend and Nintendo wants people to actually put forth the effort, instead of getting one from a friend so you don't have to do anything.That doesn't prove whether or not it's a legend. Hell, it's hard for me to get my hands on a Weedle, simply because Ido not own FireRed.

- Is a Legend because it's grouped with the Legends: So were the Tyranitar and Dragonite families.Bingo

- Not a Legend because everyone has one: It could be that it's easy to track Rotom, just follow the electronic destruction. Other Legends aren't as easy to track.TOO MUCH LOGACK!!!! You can track Cressila with a cheap wristwatch...

There we go.

 

[airconditioning]

- Rotom's Level makes it a non-legend: In Pokemon Yellow, Mew was encountered at Level 7. So does that mean Mew isn't a Legendary Pokemon? Let's see how far that gets...

I can use an Action Replay to encounter Arceus at level 1. Since that Mew is encountered through a glitch, it doesn't count.

- Rotom will never have its own movie: Three words = NEVER SAY NEVER

Raikou never had a movie. Neither did Ho-Oh.

Not that I'm sure why I'm actually debating this...

 

[Pogiforce-14]

Why ARE you debating this?

I mean really, does it even matter what Rotom's status is? Is Rotom's usability in battle influenced entirely on whether or not he's legendary? will the world burn to cinders if Rotom isn't Legendary? will pokemon become the world's god if he is? His legendary status or lack thereof has zero impact on... well, anything. It's splitting hairs. It's like debating whether or not a shark has 56 or 57 teeth. no matter the number, the shark still would rip you in half.

 

[sims796]

Why ARE you debating this?

I mean really, does it even matter what Rotom's status is? Is Rotom's usability in battle influenced entirely on whether or not he's legendary? will the world burn to cinders if Rotom isn't Legendary? will pokemon become the world's god if he is? His legendary status or lack thereof has zero impact on... well, anything. It's splitting hairs. It's like debating whether or not a shark has 56 or 57 teeth. no matter the number, the shark still would rip you in half.

You wanna know why? Because it is the TOPIC. By that logic, we are not allowed to discuss ANYTHING at all. Will the world burn to cinders if you talk to your friends about music? Will everything stop because you talk about your favorite TV show? No? Then why do you do it? Because itis intersting.

If this does not intrest you, don't come to the topic at all. If so, post away.

 

[Aquilae]

"It is not explicitly stated anywhere about "Legendary" status in the games"

By this I'm including Nintendo, since when has it said that X pokemon is a legendary, other than providing banlists (which do not prove anything)?

 

[sims796]

I believe they said that on their website. Within Nintendo merchandise, and their mailbag. I don't want to go there again :(

 

[YOOM-TAH]

The base stats of all legends total 580

I assume you mean AT LEAST 580.

 

[GS the Bounty Hunter]

1st off, thanks for all the replys and feedback. That being siad, I'll offer my opinions on the various arguments for both sides.

- Rotom's Level makes it a non-legend: In Pokemon Yellow, Mew was encountered at Level 7. So does that mean Mew isn't a Legendary Pokemon? Let's see how far that gets...

Yeah,but that's cheating. And it's wrong to cheat for ledgendaries. :(

- Rotom's battle music is that of a Legendary: Well, the argument about Cresselia having non-Legend music kind of settles that.

Go face Rotom with your volume all the way down. DOES HE STILL SEEM LIKE A LEDGENDARY TO YOU?!?!?!?!?!


- Rotom will never have its own movie: Three words = NEVER SAY NEVER

I can see it now. Ash and his finger star in,The Electric Socket of Doom featuring Rotom.


- Rotom's stats aren't Legendary stats: The answer to that can be found in the Pokemon itself. A Rotom wouldn't really need to battle anyone or anything. All other Legends might in order to protect territory, family, etc. Rotom can just escape into an electrical cable. So that could be the reason Nintendo gave it lower stats.

...WHAT???


- Bulbapedia says it isn't a Legendary: Since when did Bulbapedia create the games or the characters?

Yeah,but Bulbapedia is a source of knowledge. And that knowledge allows us to find out things about Pokemon. And most of the time it's knowledge put in by people who know what they're talking about.

- Not a Legend because it lives in a TV: Since when does that have anything to do with it?

It doesn't really. Lugia can live in a coffee cup if it wants to.


- Not a Legend because it can breed: The argument about Manaphy is a strong one. However, as stated, Manaphy produces Phione, Rotom produces Rotom. This could be because it's easy to capture Rotom and Nintendo doesn't care if you reproduce yours and pass them out to friends. But, it can be hard to get every other Legend and Nintendo wants people to actually put forth the effort, instead of getting one from a friend so you don't have to do anything.

Nintendo is a smart company and doesn't care what you do with that little cartridge. They just want you to buy it.

- Is a Legend because it's grouped with the Legends: So were the Tyranitar and Dragonite families.

Not an argument. DNite was the only of it's kind in Gen 1. And Tyranitar is really strong and rare so it was up there.

- Not a Legend because everyone has one: It could be that it's easy to track Rotom, just follow the electronic destruction. Other Legends aren't as easy to track.

Your logic hurts me.

Opinions in bold. This is becoming quite the debate.

 

[Saberdragon]

In answer to your question AJ (about who said Rotom wasn't a Legend because he lives in a TV), that was Sir Matt on page 2

 

[Pogiforce-14]

You wanna know why? Because it is the TOPIC. By that logic, we are not allowed to discuss ANYTHING at all. Will the world burn to cinders if you talk to your friends about music? Will everything stop because you talk about your favorite TV show? No? Then why do you do it? Because itis intersting.

If this does not intrest you, don't come to the topic at all. If so, post away.

friendly discussion is not hte same thing as pointless bickering and arguing about a pokemon no one looks at twice and whether or not it's some status that has no impact on the actual game. I can talk about my music with my friends, and we enjoy the conversation. This here is just pointless arguement. People aren't talking about this because they think it's interesting. They're talking about this because they apparently think what Rotom is in the game is important for some strange reason. usually people don't get so argumentative about things if it's just "friendly conversation".

I voted yes just for lulz, because it's apparent the majority opinion is no. Now THAT, was just because it interested me.