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Seeking advice on my team ^_^

Am I not included in that list, Mullet? I used to mod here, ya know...
 
Stop stinking Arguing >_>

OY!!!
STOP ARGUING!!!

For goodness sake. I make a thread asking for help on my team and come back to find it as the base of an argument?? Please, guys, please dont.

To the dude who was going on about gamesharks, that was completely off the topic for one thing and for another, I DONT WANT TO USE IT. I have a sharked Mew that was a gift, but other than that, no no no. I dont want to use a shark. I dont even use in-game cheats, (except the old Mew glitch on Red/Blue/Yellow.)

Anyway, can this argument go kapuht right here? Please?

I want advice on my team, and to those who gave it, thank you so much!
Now to my post.

I went through the first two lots of suggestions I got in this thread, and will post my new proposed team based on those suggestions, for further evaluation and criticism where due.

Just a note: I agree that leftovers is an excellent item. However, the Battle Tower and Orre Colosseum do not allow any more than one Pokémon to hold the same item. Therefore I can't let them all hold leftovers, so further item suggestions are welcome.
Also, I am avoiding moves like Rock Slide because in double battles (which I find easier than single in Orre Colosseum) they are not strong enough since they strike both opponents. (I used to use rock slide. I gave up due to low damage.) I may well change the moves for single battles, though.

Okay, new suggested team. Criticize as strongly as you like.


Tyranitar

Male
Trait: Sand Stream
Nature: Adamant
EV's as suggested

Moves
- Dragon Dance – How do I get it to learn that, anyway? It does not learn Dragon Dance naturally, is it an egg move? If so, whom do I breed it with to get that?
- Body Slam
- Earthquake
- Taunt

Zapdos,
Trait: Pressure. (What the heck is a Quetzalwhata?)
Nature: Modest
EV's: As suggested.

Moves:
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- ?Light Screen / Drill Peck?
- Thunderbolt

Skarmory
Female
Trait: Sturdy

Nature and EV's: I have a question about this. Why is it suggested that I up the defence with nature and EV's? Skarmory's weaknesses are both Sp.Def and it already has very high Defence. So shouldn't I be working on its Sp.Defence?
My inexperience is most likely hampering my judgement here; I just want to know.
Anyway.

Moves:
- Drill Peck
- Spikes
- Whirlwind
- Rest

Slowbro
Male
Trait: Own Tempo
Nature: Bold
EV's as suggested

Moves:
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Ice Beam
- Rest

Registeel

Trait: Clear Body
Nature: Careful
EV's as suggested

Moves: I would appreciate some suggestions on how to make best use of this moveset ^_^

- Curse
- Earthquake
- Explosion / Rest
- Thunder Wave


Cradily

Trait: Suction Cups
Nature: Careful
EV's as suggested

Moves:
- Recover
- Barrier
- Mirror Coat
- Sludge Bomb


That's what I have so far. I am open to adding more Pokémon to the list, training more than just six adds flexibility to my choice of team.

One more Pokémon that has always served me well which I forgot to add last time is Latias. What is a good moveset and so on for her? I would train a new one of course, my old one wasn't EV trained. My old moveset is pretty imperfect: Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Surf and Psychic. Oh and i'm considering adding Wobuffet to my team, too.

Thanks soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much for your help so far, you guys!! I can't believe how much I have learned just from the first two lots of suggestions I received! I have been training for about 6 years, and I'm still an inexperienced amateur!

Thanks again. ^_^

Hikari.
 
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PS We're not arguing, it's called friendly banter :-)

Tyranitar@Leftovers
Nature: Adamant (+Att, - Sp Att)
EV: 4 HP/ 252 Att / 252 Speed
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Rock Slide/HP Rock/Ancientpower
Taunt

Nice one, you have Taunt. Tauntratar can be awesome if you can predict right, can stop slow tanks like Umbreon who generally don't have any direct attacks, can stop people hazing away your Dragon Dances, and gives you the time to set up DD for sweeping.

In order to get Dragon Dance onto Tyranitar, you'll have to do a bit of chain breeding. Since Tyranitar is only in the Monster egg group, the only other Pokemon in that egg group that learns Dragon Dance is Charmander and his evolutions.

Chain is: Gyarados -> Charmander -> Larvitar.

Zapdos: generally looks ok. Consider HP Grass or Ice over Light Screen, it can hit opponents that would stop Zapdos in his tracks like Swampert.

Skarmory - Drill Peck and Whirlwind is an illegal combination of egg moves (they can have one or the other, but not both). Use Roar if you want Drill Peck, and if you want Whirlwind, use HP Flying. You can even use Steel Wing over your flying attack if you like.

With Skarmory, you want to use his Defence to your advantage. Fixing up his Sp Def won't help him much, since he'll die just as quickly and it'll be a waste of EV points. The key here is switching to something that can take special hits for Skarmory, on your team Cradily does that role, and Registeel to an extent. Skarmory's role on a team is usually to take physical hits, set up Spikes, and use Roar or Whirlwind to force as many Pokemon to hit those spikes doing up to 25% damage per switch.

Slowbro - awesome Pokemon. I'd use Surf over Psychic, Slowbro doesn't get STAB for Psychic, and besides Surf hurts more stuff. Bold nature and high Defence and HP EV, Calm Mind covers his Special stats.

Registeel - Curse + Explosion hurts. Registeel can stall enough without Rest, but I'd recommend using that if you want to stall rather than explode.

Cradily - Mirror Coat set, works ok. I've only used Cradily a few times competitively, and I found they could be a little too easily countered. Maybe I just didn't have enough luck.

If you're looking at Wobbuffet and Latias, try making an uber team instead. Wobbuffet is generally banned from standard play because it can be very easily and cheaply utilized.
 
Also, I am avoiding moves like Rock Slide because in double battles (which I find easier than single in Orre Colosseum) they are not strong enough since they strike both opponents.
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The power doesn't decrease because it strikes both opponents. Attacks seem to do less damage in colosseum battles because these pokemon have actually been somewhat EV trained, while yours, quite possibly, aren't. Such as my DD Salamence not outrunning a Raikou with 1 Dragon Dance, because I had not EV trained it for speed at all.

As for a Dragon Dancing Tyranitar, I believe Altaria is in the chain as well, but other than that, you can receive an automatic DD Larvitar in Pokemon XD (if you ever get around to buying/playing it) through a mini-side quest.
 
H i k a r i said:
I have been trying to formulate a good team for the Battle Tower on Emerald and R/S and for the Orre Colloseum on XD. I like to think i'm an experienced battler, having gotten to 78 straight wins in the Sapphire Battle Tower and having earned all the symbols but one (Battle Tower) on Emerald. HOWEVER, I have hardly ever battled against any real, live experienced trainers so for all I know i'm uselss at battling. Computer or game controlled battles dont think creatively. So I'm seeking team advice for battles. I'm having trouble in Orre Colloseum - only beaten the first 4 battles so far-, and I have not got the gold symbols on the Fronteir, just the regular ones, and none at all for the Tower.

Those of you who really are experienced may be able to help me and suggest improvements. I always used to go for power. Now I lean more towards Defence, having gotten to a certain point with power before finding my defence left me whimpering in defeat. I have over 20 L100 Pokemon, but I want to train a fresh team, all carefully EV trained and bred for their natures. I'll list the Pokemon i'm Considering. There are more than 6. I tend to train around ten so I can switch them around. Can anyone give suggestions and critisism on the ones I consider and suggestions for ones I might want to add to my list, and why? Advice on moves, natures, stats, and held items is welcome.

My skill....or lack of it...will likely be evident from my choices of Pokemon. I havent posted movesets for all of these yet, suggestions greatly welcome as well as reasons for the choices of moves.
  • Articuno. I love using the Mind Reader, Sheer Cold combo. I plan to have it know Ice Beam as well, the other move i'm not sure of yet. Try Reflect and train it in SD. This will help Arti survive attacks between Mind Reader and Sheer Cold.
  • Tyranitar. Crunch, Earthquake, Flamethrower, ?. I choose Tyranitar because its strong offensively and defensively. I had a hard time defeating one in the Orre Coll.
  • Golduck, Ability Damp. This may seem like an odd choice. Its chosen purely because in the second round in Orrre Coll, trainers repeatedlty use Explosion. This drives me nuts and knocks me out. Having Golduck in action stops them using it. I bred my young Psyduck with Cross Chop and Psychic, which do respectable damage. Any suggestions on other Pokemon to help me defeat the Exploding Teams?
  • Tauros. Tauros appears to be one of the few Normal types with high defence to stop those annoying fighting moves. Planned moveset: Earthquake, Body Slam, ?, and does anyone know how to breed Megahorn into Tauros?
  • Registeel: Higher Defence and Sp.Defence than the other Regi, and a reasonably good range of moves. Moveset Undecided, except definately Explosion for when Registeel is nearly out, to do passing damage.
  • Slowbro or Slowking, Own Tempo. Does anyone have stat listings for these two? Which one is better to train, (I want the highest Sp Defence mainly) which one should I use? They may be slow but i find them hard to KO, and they have respectable attaking power. Psychic, definately. Ice Beam. The rest i'm debating. Slowbro explained at bottom
  • I am stuck on a Fire type. My L100 Charizard gets whacked by water types and too many Pokemon know rock attacks. My Blaziken is too weak with so many knowing either Earthquake or Psychic. Charizard is not very strong except on NB, when you can get HP Grass. Physical Zard is actually better in-game, where you want my set listed below.
  • Swampert. Mine has always served me well and was first in my team when I reached 78 in the Battle towerr Sapphire. Ice Beam, Earthquake always. Surf is no good in double battles, so perhaps Hydro Pump. I dont know whether to choose Endeavor or Mirror Coat. Mirror Coat over Endeavor, but use Surf.
  • Cradily? High defense and Sp Defence, if I can breed it with Mirror Coat and Sludge bomb and teach it Giga Drain and something else, perhaps it could be useful.
I'm sure my suggestions are full of flaws and weaknesses, and as far as double battle strategies I am still learning. Please lend a Hand!


Finally, does anyone have comprehensive lists of where to find all the Battle CD's on XD? I have beaten most of them, but annoyingly cant find the remanining 15 or so. I checked the locations listed in my guide with no luck. Perhaps there is something I have not done?

Many thinks, experienced ones ^_^.

Hikari.
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Charizard@Leftovers
EVs: 252 ATK/252 SPD/6 HP
Nature: Adamant (ATK+/SA-)
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Wing Attack
Brick Break

Slowbro@Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/100 SA/100 DEF/58 SD
Amnesia
Psychic
Surf
Ice Beam

Golduck cannot Cross Chop effectively, but its high CH ratio may help you use it with Scope Lens. Golduck also learns Slash, another CH move. Use them both with Psychic and Surf, and max speed and even attack split.

T-Tar is a physical/mixed sweeper. Try this:
T-Tar@Leftovers
EVs: 252 ATK/100 SA/158 DEF
Crunch
Earthquake
Brick Break
Aerial Ace

Not very good on NB, but effective in-game.
 
Toothache said:
PS We're not arguing, it's called friendly banter :-)

Tyranitar@Leftovers
Nature: Adamant (+Att, - Sp Att)
EV: 4 HP/ 252 Att / 252 Speed
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Rock Slide/HP Rock/Ancientpower
Taunt

Nice one, you have Taunt. Tauntratar can be awesome if you can predict right, can stop slow tanks like Umbreon who generally don't have any direct attacks, can stop people hazing away your Dragon Dances, and gives you the time to set up DD for sweeping.

In order to get Dragon Dance onto Tyranitar, you'll have to do a bit of chain breeding. Since Tyranitar is only in the Monster egg group, the only other Pokemon in that egg group that learns Dragon Dance is Charmander and his evolutions.

Chain is: Gyarados -> Charmander -> Larvitar.

Zapdos: generally looks ok. Consider HP Grass or Ice over Light Screen, it can hit opponents that would stop Zapdos in his tracks like Swampert.

Skarmory - Drill Peck and Whirlwind is an illegal combination of egg moves (they can have one or the other, but not both). Use Roar if you want Drill Peck, and if you want Whirlwind, use HP Flying. You can even use Steel Wing over your flying attack if you like.

With Skarmory, you want to use his Defence to your advantage. Fixing up his Sp Def won't help him much, since he'll die just as quickly and it'll be a waste of EV points. The key here is switching to something that can take special hits for Skarmory, on your team Cradily does that role, and Registeel to an extent. Skarmory's role on a team is usually to take physical hits, set up Spikes, and use Roar or Whirlwind to force as many Pokemon to hit those spikes doing up to 25% damage per switch.

Slowbro - awesome Pokemon. I'd use Surf over Psychic, Slowbro doesn't get STAB for Psychic, and besides Surf hurts more stuff. Bold nature and high Defence and HP EV, Calm Mind covers his Special stats.

Registeel - Curse + Explosion hurts. Registeel can stall enough without Rest, but I'd recommend using that if you want to stall rather than explode.

Cradily - Mirror Coat set, works ok. I've only used Cradily a few times competitively, and I found they could be a little too easily countered. Maybe I just didn't have enough luck.

If you're looking at Wobbuffet and Latias, try making an uber team instead. Wobbuffet is generally banned from standard play because it can be very easily and cheaply utilized.
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I am playing IN GAME!!! I cant use the Hidden Power thingies and i'm battling on XD and Emerald Battle Tower. Wobuffet is not banned there.
The other advice is great though, thanks ^_^.

The battle tqwoer and XD Orre Colloseum bans only the main legendaries like Mew, Mewtwo, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquasa, ect. Secondary legendaries (as I call them) like Latias, Latios, Regi's, Suicune, ect are NOT banned. Any further suggestions based on this? What is an Uber Team?

Synchronize said:
The power doesn't decrease because it strikes both opponents. Attacks seem to do less damage in colosseum battles because these pokemon have actually been somewhat EV trained, while yours, quite possibly, aren't. Such as my DD Salamence not outrunning a Raikou with 1 Dragon Dance, because I had not EV trained it for speed at all.

As for a Dragon Dancing Tyranitar, I believe Altaria is in the chain as well, but other than that, you can receive an automatic DD Larvitar in Pokemon XD (if you ever get around to buying/playing it) through a mini-side quest.
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Oh good! I know how to do that, that's easy. I already got most of the others that Duking wants, so that should be simple to get,. Thanks!!

I played XD all through, Battle Bingo and Battle CD's and all!
 
I played XD all through, Battle Bingo and Battle CD's and all!
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I think I've said it before, but I've been you to that </brag>

btw, and uber team is a team that consist mainly of uber pokemon (Groudon, Kyogre, Mewtwo, etc.) which aren't to be confused with legendaries (Articuno, jirachi, Celebi, etc.). Uber pokemon are guys that are generally banned from OU play, because of their stats and/or abilities. Latios ad Latias are considered Uber, but you know Nintendo >_>. Wobbuffet, IMO is not uber, but to prevent causing an age-old argument that pisses me off, just know that its banned from OU as well.
 
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