2nd Gen Shiny RBY exclusive Pokémon- How?

NatureKeeper

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    We all know shininess was first invented in Generation II. Well, my question is...

    Particularly, some Pokémon are Generation I exclusive, Alright... Like Squirtle.

    How am I supposed to obtain a Shiny Squirtle if it is not in Generation II? Does the special IV thingy still works, like certain IVs are supposed to be there to give it shininess;

    Bulbagarden Wiki "Bulbapedia" said:
    Whether or not a Pokémon is shiny or not is also determined by IVs, though in a much more specific manner than its gender is. A shiny Pokémon, in Generation II only, must have IVs of 10 in Defense, Speed, and Special, as well as an IV of 2, 3, 6, 7, 10, 11, 14, or 15 in Attack. Such a lineup only has a 1/8192 chance of occurring, the standard rarity of a shiny Pokémon to this day.
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    Actually I think it's random when you trade from the old games since they didn't have IVs back then nor shinies but they still give your Pokemon a random gender or you might have a 1/8192 chance of getting a shiny Pokemon when you trade it from R/B/Y.
     
    Wings Don't Cry said:
    Actually I think it's random when you trade from the old games since they didn't have IVs back then nor shinies but they still give your Pokemon a random gender or you might have a 1/8192 chance of getting a shiny Pokemon when you trade it from R/B/Y.
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    Well, what you are saying doesn't make sense, since the Pokémon retain their shininess and Gender upon trading to RBY and back to GSC...

    IVs existed in RBY, and in GSC they are used to determine Genders and Shininess.

    That's why when a Ditto transforms twice in RBY, it copies the IVs, and thus being Shiny in GSC when retraded. However, does this extend to Gen II Shinies' IVs only?
     
    A Pokemon's coloration is affected in RBY by their name. Naming a Pikachu Pikachan, for example, yields a green Pikachu when transferred to stadium. That's why all the NPC battles have strangely (theme)-named Pokemon with slightly different colors.
     
    Thanks, that pretty much cleared up everything...
     
    Redstar said:
    A Pokemon's coloration is affected in RBY by their name. Naming a Pikachu Pikachan, for example, yields a green Pikachu when transferred to stadium. That's why all the NPC battles have strangely (theme)-named Pokemon with slightly different colors.
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    That's got nothing to do with RBY, it's got to do with Stadium.


    Yeah, and pretty much the question has been answered. It depends on the IVs still, so if a Pokemon has IVs that would produce a shiny then it will be shiny in Gen 2.
     
    How do you calculate IV's in RGBY? I would like to have shinies in Crystal.
     
    [PokeCommunity.com] Shiny RBY exclusive Pokémon- How?

    [PokeCommunity.com] Shiny RBY exclusive Pokémon- How?


    I'll look at other stat just because. Assuming EVs are zero, then IVs are ((stat - 5) * 50 / level) - base.
    The formula for the HP IV should then be the same, except instead of taking away 5, you take away 10. AND at the very end take away 50. Amirite people?

    Note, in Gen 2 Special Attack and Special Defence use one single Special IV, so nothing needs to be done to convert between Gen 1 and 2. All taken from here.
     
    That Bulbapedia article is quite questionable as Gen II already had the Special Split so it doesn't really say if it means both or just one of the Specials. Also IVs range from 0-31 so there are 32 different values you can get for a stat. The IVs are at random when you can a wild Pokemon so the chance of getting an IV of 10 in one stat would be 1/32. So getting 10 in three stats would be the reciprocal of thirty two to the power of three, which is 1/32768. Then you have to get that 8/32 chance for that Attack IV which is also 1/4. So you have to add that into your equation so based on your IV theory and that both Special stats had the same IVs then your chance of finding a shiny Pokemon would be 1/131072. Unless some IVs happen to be more like to occur then others, the IV says that your chance of finding a Shiny in GenII is 1/13107. But we already know it's 1/8192.
     
    If u keep breeding a pokemon the chances of the hatched pokémon being shiny will be higher
    it took me 18 torchic's then i got a shiny on HG
     
    Wings Don't Cry said:
    That Bulbapedia article is quite questionable as Gen II already had the Special Split so it doesn't really say if it means both or just one of the Specials.
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    I don't follow. There is only one Special IV, used for both stats.
    Also IVs range from 0-31 so there are 32 different values you can get for a stat.
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    In Gen 1 and 2 it ranges from 0-15, leaving 16 possibilities. If you do your calculations again, it shows that the chances are still 1 in 8192.
     
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    This is the third time I've said it - There is only one Special IV. EVEN in Gen 2. There are two Special STATS, yes. But only one IV. I guess I didn't make that clear in the second post though, let me fix that.
     
    For further clarification: in Gen II, even though there are two Special Stats (Sp.Def and Sp.Atk) they SHARE the SAME IV. So that means if your Slowking as an IV of 6 for Special Defense, and it also has a IV of 6 for Special Attack.
     
    For shiny starters, send it over and hope for luck, or breed. A lot.

    For legendaries, get really lucky, or restart the game a lot.
     
    Nintendork15 said:
    If u keep breeding a pokemon the chances of the hatched pokémon being shiny will be higher
    it took me 18 torchic's then i got a shiny on HG
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    That highly depends. You're either very lucky or you're manipulating the RNG.
    The rate for breeding a shiny is exactly the same as wild encounters, 1 in 8,192.
    I don't believe that the Masuda Method can be used in HGSS either but please tell me if I'm wrong on this.
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