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shoddy OU team v18.0

Valarauca

I > U for all real values of U
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    Well this my new team, It's missing something i can feel it, but I'm not sure, maybe its a nooby mistake, have at it.

    The Team at a glance

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    The Team in depth:

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    Roserade @ focus sash
    timid
    Ev: 252 spe, 252 spA, 6 hp
    ~ toxic spikes
    ~ sleep power
    ~ hp (fire)
    ~ leaf storm
    Note: Basically standard; Timid to out speed other roserades, my toxic spiker

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    Relicanth @ choice scarf
    adamant
    Ev: 252 spe, 252 att, 6 hp
    ~ head smash
    ~ double edge
    ~ earthquake
    ~ waterfall
    Note: All i say about him is surprise, can you counter this?!? That is a 140 base power STAB, with no recoil!

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    Deoxys-E/S @ life orb
    hasty
    Ev: 252 spA, 96 spe, 160 att
    ~ Psychic
    ~ Ice beam
    ~ super power
    ~ T-bolt
    Notes: wrong sprite, if it bothers you post real one. Just like this guy, fast and hard hitting, he is nice

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    Mixape @ life orb
    Naive
    Ev: 252 spA, 24 att, 232 spe
    ~ Nasty plot
    ~ Close combat
    ~ flamethrower
    ~ grass knot
    Note: Can you counter me? If not your swept. Easy as that.

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    Gyarados @ leftovers
    jolly
    Ev: 216 hp, 52 att, 176 def, 66 spe
    ~ taunt
    ~ stone edge
    ~ waterfall
    ~ dragon dance
    Note: Great pokemon, everyone love gyara, great Ddancer, great taunter, great waterfall sweeper after a dragon dance...

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    Blissey @ leftovers
    bold
    Ev: 252 def, 80 hp, 176 spD
    ~ softboil
    ~ Aromatherapy
    ~ Ice beam
    ~ Sesmic toss
    Note: yes, It a old fashion Bold blissey, I like it more
     
    Love your Relicanth, I've got one I'm training now but with different moves!

    Right off the bat I see some small type problems though.

    ghost, gets 3 of your pokémon, it's immune to fighting & hits Deoxys with Stab, some carry psychic that hits Roserade, but it's not that big of a deal.

    next one that I saw was Fighting for Relic/Bliss but again it's a small problem.

    & cross hits 3 maybe 4 of your team for SE hits, but you have strong counters so I don't think you have to worry mouch about that.

    all in all it's a good team & I give it 9/10
     
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    Psychic doesn't hit Deoxys-e for SE. In fact, it resists it.
     
    Listing type weaknesses is NOT a rate, as his selection of pokemon may make up for that in spades.
     
    I'd be wary of Choice Scarf Heracross and Dragon Dance Tyranitar, because all it takes is an unlucky Static activation or Thunder Wave hit on D-E and you're dead. D-E is the only thing stopping them from sweeping since it still outspeeds Hera with its scarf and DDTar after two dances (Tar can be EVed to outspeed Ape after one, losing a slight bit of firepower in the process). Garchomp sweeps you easily as well.

    Speaking of EVs, you might want to revise yours. Blissey needs some special attack to OHKO Garchomp with Ice Beam, and doesn't really need much SDef to be able to wall special threats. Probably just move all of your SDef EVs into SAtk, that should do the trick.

    Sandstorm and Stealth Rock owns your team. You have no spinner, you have two Pokemon with Life Orb attached, and you have one Spikes immunity, one Sandstorm immunity (who doesn't have Leftovers), and no SR resists.

    Deoxys-E and Infernape do the exact same thing, so I'd replace one of them. I'd also replace Roserade since he doesn't really do anything.

    Maybe replace D-E or Ape with:

    Donphan @ Leftovers
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
    Nature: Impish (Def+/Atk-)
    - Rapid Spin
    - Stealth Rock
    - Ice Shard
    - Earthquake

    Helps with the Tyranitar problem and solves the Garchomp problem. Also adds a spinner and an SR resist as well as a Sandstorm immunity.

    Lead off with Gyara or Ape/D-E and replace Roserade with:

    Swampert @ Leftovers
    EVs: 236 HP / 252 Def / 22 Atk
    Nature: Brave (Atk+/Spd-)
    - Roar
    - Waterfall
    - Ice Punch
    - Earthquake

    I went with Brave over Relaxed since I get more use out of the nature than Impish. My attack power is higher than if I got the same defense with Relaxed (with Swampert it's only one point, but with other Pokemon it's often higher). Now you have a Tyranitar counter and another SS/SR resist.
     
    Espy Psyche said:
    I'd be wary of Choice Scarf Heracross and Dragon Dance Tyranitar, because all it takes is an unlucky Static activation or Thunder Wave hit on D-E and you're dead. D-E is the only thing stopping them from sweeping since it still outspeeds Hera with its scarf and DDTar after two dances (Tar can be EVed to outspeed Ape after one, losing a slight bit of firepower in the process). Garchomp sweeps you easily as well.


    DDTar yes, Scarf Hera no, Bulky Gyara can switch in on its STABS easily, so its beaten with prediction, aka, predict the obvious stone edges.

    Speaking of EVs, you might want to revise yours. Blissey needs some special attack to OHKO Garchomp with Ice Beam, and doesn't really need much SDef to be able to wall special threats. Probably just move all of your SDef EVs into SAtk, that should do the trick.


    No, blissey isnt meant to OHKO chomp, only Salamence, which is what 80 sp.att evs grants IIRC. And no, it NEEDS that much special defense this gen, Azelf, Specs Gar, Porygon z, Specs Lucario, Taunt/MS Heatran, just to name a few of the special treats capable of beating the now defunct SP.DEF -less blissey.
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    Also swampert IS NOT a T-Tar counter anymore, its gets 2hko'd by a DD Life Orb or Black Glasses boosted Crunch.

    I agree with the Donphan though.




    Speaking of NP Azelf, you are weak to that, it poops on all your team and sets up on a Blissey with no status move. To solve this, i would give Blissey T-wave > Aromatherapy, and make that Relicanth Rest talk, granted Rock/Water is poor typing, but it can still pull of that job, then you dont need Aroma-set up fodder-therapy, due to Relicanth being your status absorber.


    Relicanth@Leftovers / Life Orb
    240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Def
    Trait : Rock head
    ~ Rest
    ~ Sleep Talk
    ~ Head Smash
    ~ Waterfall / Aqua Tail / Earthquake


    Pretty much.
     
    He has 252 Def / 80 HP / 176 SDef. Not an SAtk EV to be seen. So we're both right and both wrong.
     
    King Tyranitar said:
    Psychic doesn't hit Deoxys-e for SE. In fact, it resists it.
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    Sorry I've corrected the error in my post!

    & BTW sims, I did rate it, those where just the first thing that came to mind when I saw the team! Type coverage is very important. I carry 2 ghosts on my team & I would have prayed on those weaknesses right away!

    Those kind of comments really helped me when I started building my team!

    Sorry I'll try to be more specific next time I comment on a team!
     
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    boss jr. said:
    Sorry I've corrected the error in my post!

    & BTW sims, I did rate it, those where just the first thing that came to mind when I saw the team! Type coverage is very important. I carry 2 ghosts on my team & I would have prayed on those weaknesses right away!

    Those kind of comments really helped me when I started building my team!
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    As I said, his selection of pokemon can MORE than make up for that. I can have a team with five pokemon weak to ice, but have a poke that eat those types of attacks for breakfast. Naming specific threats, such as a Mixape, Ttar, Grumpig (srsly, five teams were Grumpig weak), Garchomp, etc is MUCH MOAR important than a few type weakesses, which his selection of pokes will handle.
     
    Archer said:
    Um, Relicanth works well with Rock Polish. It has the Bulk to set one or two up...
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    thnxs for the good idea, i might implament (sp?) this
    something like this but right now i really like scarf-canth, it really does make people panic once they lose a poke that they think can counter it.




    Espy Psyche said:
    Donphan @ Leftovers
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
    Nature: Impish (Def+/Atk-)
    - Rapid Spin
    - Stealth Rock
    - Ice Shard
    - Earthquake
    Thnxs for this i will
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    this what you talking about archer?

    Canth @ life orb
    (def +, SpD -)
    Ev: 252 def, 252 att
    - rock polish
    - rock head
    - water fall
    - ice beam
    Note: best i could think of, ice beam is for gliscor which is becoming very popular, rock head only does about 64% to it, ice beam should do more right?
     
    Shouldn't Waterfall hurt Gliscor pretty bad? And 64% is very good, it means that you should first weaken Gliscor before you even attempt to try & sweep. Same goes with pokemon like Lucario.
     
    Ok so heres the new canth,

    the canth @ life orb
    adamant
    Ev: 252 spe, 252 att, 6 hp
    ~ rock polish
    ~ head smash
    ~ earthquake
    ~ waterfall

    Well waterfall gets gliscor, earthquake gets lucario, and head smash laughs at most pitfull things, and i have mixape to deal with skarmory...
     
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