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shoddy team 3.0

Valarauca

I > U for all real values of U
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    Seeing as my last team failed i tryed to make a new one, hooray!

    The line up
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    In detail:
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    Gengar @ wide lens
    timid
    Ev:252 spec att, 252 spe, 6hp
    -t bolt
    -hypnosis
    -shadow ball
    -focus blast
    Note: Gets the game rolling.

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    Weezing @ black sludge
    bold
    Ev: 252hp, 252 def, 6spec att
    -thunderbolt
    -sludge bomb
    -will - o - wisp
    -pain split
    Note: Nice physical wall, burn annoys physical sweeper, thunderbolt give me gyra coverage, and sludge bomb is a STAB attack with a chance of poison, pain split heals you and damages oppents, why don't more people run him he is so fun!

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    Rhyperior @ focus sash
    impish
    Ev:252 hp, 252 def, 6 att
    -earthquake
    -stone edge
    -mega horn
    -avalanche
    Note: bulky takes hard hit it shouldn't survive, then normally gets a OHKO

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    Infernape @ life orb
    naive
    Ev: 26 att, 252 spec att, 232 spe
    -grass knot
    -close combat
    -flamethrower
    -hp (ice)
    Note: nice to sweep with, hits most pokes hard, breaks walls, why am i talking its a standard set

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    Lucario @ life orb
    adamant
    Ev: 252 spe, 252 att, 6hp
    -extreme speed
    -close combat
    -sword dance
    -blazekick
    Note: extreme speed gets rid of annoy pokes, close combat give me an amazing STAB attack, and well last move it filler with a couple SD's i can blaze kick a skarmory.

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    blissey @ leftovers
    calm
    Ev: 80hp, 252def, 178 spec def
    -softboil
    -sesmic toss
    -toxic
    -flamethrower
    Note: toxic deals with most pokes (switch out), flamethrower deals with skarmory, and fortress, it also gets rid of steel type pokes cause poison doesn't effect them (thnxs abyay,funny story).
     
    T-Tar weak...Granted you have Rhyinferiorperior, but still, that cant really take CB EQ or Focus Punches, or Ice Beams.


    You also lack a status absorber, so Rest-talk Machamp IMO>> Rhyperior.


    Sludge Bomb in meh on Weezing, use Flamethrower so you can do something to Heracross and Breloom..

    Speaking of Breloom, sub seeders are annoying, which is why i use Taunt on mine >> Will-o-wisp. You could also do with a Hazer, so Haze could go >> Will-o-wisp aswell, but meh.
     
    thanks and

    dark_azelf said:
    Speaking of Breloom, sub seeders are annoying, which is why i use Taunt on mine >> Will-o-wisp. You could also do with a Hazer, so Haze could go >> Will-o-wisp aswell, but meh.
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    i just got swept my a sub sweeper...
     
    I feel you should remove Black Sludge from Weezing. God forbid a Trick user sends Black Sludge onto Blissey. That wouldn't be nice now would it?

    I prefer Ice Beam on Blissey so it can make a surprise KO on most dragons that are attempting a set up. For Weezing, Flamethrower >>> Sludge Bomb so you can effectively counter Hera. Besides Infernape, you have no answer to it, or at least not to every set.

    You could go Bullet Punch >>> Extremespeed if you want to hit Ghosts that are faster than you. After a SD, I believe BP OHKO's Gengar and Mismagius, two things that hurt your team. Close Combat rips through steels and walls, so Blaze Kick is inferior. Go with Crunch to make Cressy cry.

    I don't see the point of Focus Sash on Rhyperior, it usually takes a few hits (barring Special) before it goes down, meaning Focus Sash won't work. Go with Leftovers or CB if you want to hit enemies really hard.

    Wide Lense isn't as good as Petaya Berry in my opinion. PBerry works amazingly. I've swept plenty of teams with Petaya Berry Gengar. Of course, if you want to keep it on, go ahead.

    Calm Blissey >:( I like Bold, but that's my personal preference.


    Pretty good team, I like using SD Luke, it's fun.
     
    Weezing counters Heracross whether it has Flamethrower or not. It doesn't even 2HKO Heracross actually :P I just use it for SDluke :P Also, how is Ice Beam a "surprise" KO when it's standard on Blissey?

    shadowman080, I really don't appreciate that usrtitle, so I'll go for a more brief rate (that and the Celtics are on...)

    Dugtrio can ram your team pretty badly. Weezing is your only counter (you know, if you could switch out), which is kind of sad considering it has only 80 base attack. A lot of common EQ users just smash this team to smithereens, especially those with Stone Edge to take out Gengar and whatnot. Tyranitar is a big problem here, so I'd agree with D_A that Resttalk Machamp >>> Rhyinferior is a good idea. If you want more steady physical walling in generally, Hippowdon over Rhyperior would be even better, but Machamp provides better status absorption and is better against mixed Tyranitars and stuff.
     
    Anti Pop Culture Warrior said:
    Weezing counters Heracross whether it has Flamethrower or not. It doesn't even 2HKO Heracross actually :P I just use it for SDluke :P Also, how is Ice Beam a "surprise" KO when it's standard on Blissey?

    shadowman080, I really don't appreciate that usrtitle, so I'll go for a more brief rate (that and the Celtics are on...)

    Dugtrio can ram your team pretty badly. Weezing is your only counter (you know, if you could switch out), which is kind of sad considering it has only 80 base attack. A lot of common EQ users just smash this team to smithereens, especially those with Stone Edge to take out Gengar and whatnot. Tyranitar is a big problem here, so I'd agree with D_A that Resttalk Machamp >>> Rhyinferior is a good idea. If you want more steady physical walling in generally, Hippowdon over Rhyperior would be even better, but Machamp provides better status absorption and is better against mixed Tyranitars and stuff.
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    Ice Beam Blissey is standard? Damn, I thought I was being original >:( Oh well, at least it still hammers those dragons hard.

    A Rest-Talk Machamp is sexy, but Rest-Talk Hera is good as well. Since it is not seen as often, it can make opponents fear for the wrong reason.
     
    Yeah, but Resttalk Heracross can't beat Tyranitar, which is pretty much the point of Machamp's addition :P
     
    King Tyranitar said:
    I feel you should remove Black Sludge from Weezing. God forbid a Trick user sends Black Sludge onto Blissey. That wouldn't be nice now would it?

    I prefer Ice Beam on Blissey so it can make a surprise KO on most dragons that are attempting a set up. For Weezing, Flamethrower >>> Sludge Bomb so you can effectively counter Hera. Besides Infernape, you have no answer to it, or at least not to every set.

    You could go Bullet Punch >>> Extremespeed if you want to hit Ghosts that are faster than you. After a SD, I believe BP OHKO's Gengar and Mismagius, two things that hurt your team. Close Combat rips through steels and walls, so Blaze Kick is inferior. Go with Crunch to make Cressy cry.

    I don't see the point of Focus Sash on Rhyperior, it usually takes a few hits (barring Special) before it goes down, meaning Focus Sash won't work. Go with Leftovers or CB if you want to hit enemies really hard.

    Wide Lense isn't as good as Petaya Berry in my opinion. PBerry works amazingly. I've swept plenty of teams with Petaya Berry Gengar. Of course, if you want to keep it on, go ahead.

    Calm Blissey >:( I like Bold, but that's my personal preference.


    Pretty good team, I like using SD Luke, it's fun.
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    >=O Flamethrower over Sludge Bomb on Weezing? I'm sorry, but I feel offended by stripping Weezing's STAB move off of it, is not right. In fact, it's standard. =D It's nice for STAB and high chance of poison. =] Calm helps with taking special hits on Blissey, something it needs this gen unlike the last one. Bold can be used though, with special Defense EVs. =D Petaya Berry fails due to Substitute and Sandstorm making damage take its wrath on Gengar plus priority moves being quite common on teams. =[ Who even keeps Gengar against Lucario? =[ While Mismagius could try, Gengar certainly can not because it does not usually have Will-O-Wisp and Focus Blast has rather low accuracy with Thunderbolt not OHKOing, IIRC.
     
    Flamethrower lets Weezing hit steels also. Will O Wisp won't really be enough.
     
    King Tyranitar said:
    Flamethrower lets Weezing hit steels also. Will O Wisp won't really be enough.
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    Who even keeps in Steels against a Weezing? Also, don't forget, it has Thunderbolt, so while the Steel types do pitiable damage, Weezing can damage the opponent with Thunderbolt while Burn cancels leftovers and does 6% damage plus Thunderbolt's damage per turn. =3 Most Steels are also physical so yeah. You can also switch out and send in something to deal with those Steel types. =D
     
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