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Shoddy Team- Revised and Remade

tylerowicz said:
hey im looking for a deoxys to
are the ones from japan (the one that can only be hasty and something else)
have set ivs??
or can i look for someone who soft reset?
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Thats spam, this is not the place for that.

Use the Simple Question and answer thread =/
 
its not spam
im asking the dude who made the thread bout his deoxys and if its like that
and if so were i can get one
 
tylerowicz said:
its not spam
im asking the dude who made the thread bout his deoxys and if its like that
and if so were i can get one
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If you didnt notice the name of the forum, its called "Strategy and movesets" and as it happens this is a Rate my team thread, not "Where did you get your deoxys" thread . So its not contributing to the topic.


Take this sort of thing to pm or ask in the simple questions thread about how to obtain Deoxys.
 
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tylerowicz said:
hey im looking for a deoxys to
are the ones from japan (the one that can only be hasty and something else)
have set ivs??
or can i look for someone who soft reset?
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tylerowicz said:
its not spam
im asking the dude who made the thread bout his deoxys and if its like that
and if so were i can get one
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You sir have made my day. This is SHODDY BATTLE. You create a team without IV calculating, EV training, stuff like that.

Spam spam spam and more spam in my thread? DOES NOT WANT.


On topic, Deoxys does pretty nicely as lead.
 
Deoxys as a lead is misrepresenting its true strengths, as a revenge killer. D-E sucks as a lead as it does not have the offensive power to damage several other leads, base 95 attack stats leave much to be desired. Not to mention D-E is walled by a lot of common pokemon - Bronzong, Jirachi, Metagross, Celebi, Blissey to name the most prominent threats.

D-E single handedly revenge kills a lot of offensive threats though, particularly the Life Orb version which decimates a team with its insane speed and ability to switch moves, something that does not come with a Choice Scarfer like Gengar.

Tyranitar is a far better lead, a lot of people expect (or do not expect) the CB versions and the Mixed Choice Scarf versions.

Nonetheless I still recommend you to drop Infernape for a better sweeper - your team does not really give Infernape a chance to set up, Deoxys-E already does a much better job at lategame cleaning.
I still stand by Lucario, giving your team support against Tyranitar, and posing a much greater threat as a setup sweeper with its priority moves. HP Ice or Crunch in the last slot depending on the players you are facing, for some odd reason lower-ranked people tend to switch Dusknoir into Luke, and all higher-ranked people carry a Gliscor #_#

Still no reliable Fighting resist by the way, Cresselia gets laughed at by Heracross and Lucario.
Dugtrio doesn't trap Skarm =X
 
Do you reccomend me to use CBtar as a lead and switch D-E for Gengar or Azelf?
 
Well, I've updated my team. But I feel that it lacks Special Attacks. Perhaps Azelf/Deoxys-e > Gliscor?
 
King Tyranitar said:
Well, I've updated my team. But I feel that it lacks Special Attacks. Perhaps Azelf/Deoxys-e > Gliscor?
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Than what do you have that can switch in to Heracross and counter it? =/ All of your team fears one of is moves and cannot dare switch in. Especially on CB Cross who will devour at least 1/3 of your team.
 
Dancing Salamence 1.1 said:
Than what do you have that can switch in to Heracross and counter it? =/ All of your team fears one of is moves and cannot dare switch in. Especially on CB Cross who will devour at least 1/3 of your team.
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I just had a battle, and it seems Weezing and Gyarados counter my team :(

I really think either Deoxys-e or Azelf (the former since it has a better movepool) should go over Skarmory.
 
Dancing Salamence 1.1 said:
o_O Starmie counters Gyarados and Gardevoir does fine against Weezing so you could use it. =]
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Starmie does, but if they have Blissey they keep switching and I'm walled. Lucario gets murdered by Weezing.

Gardy o.0 Deoxys or Azelf does a better job than Gardy IMO.
 
King Tyranitar said:
Starmie does, but if they have Blissey they keep switching and I'm walled. Lucario gets murdered by Weezing.

Gardy o.0 Deoxys or Azelf does a better job than Gardy IMO.
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They can't take Sludge Bomb as well or any status as good as Gardy. =] and they will regret Life Orb recoil+Poison damage that increases every turn IIRC. Gardevoir can also Wish pass and can heal itself while Will-O-Wisping any Physical sweeper. Although Blissey walls it and Starmie. =[
 
Dancing Salamence 1.1 said:
They can't take Sludge Bomb as well or any status as good as Gardy. =] and they will regret Life Orb recoil+Poison damage that increases every turn IIRC. Gardevoir can also Wish pass and can heal itself while Will-O-Wisping any Physical sweeper. Although Blissey walls it and Starmie. =[
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Deoxys is mostly meant as a revenge killer.


But I am interested in Gardy. I wanna try it out. Best set for it for my team?
 
King Tyranitar said:
Deoxys is mostly meant as a revenge killer.


But I am interested in Gardy. I wanna try it out. Best set for it for my team?
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Gardevoir@Leftovers
252 HP/48 Special Attack/144 Special Defense/32 Speed/32 Defense
Modest
Trace
Will-O-Wisp
Wish
Psychic
Thunderbolt/Focus Blast/Thunderbolt

Support Gardy that also counters Gyarados and Weezing. :D EVs make it bulky to take hits.
 
Dancing Salamence 1.1 said:
Gardevoir@Leftovers
252 HP/48 Special Attack/144 Special Defense/32 Speed/32 Defense
Modest
Trace
Will-O-Wisp
Wish
Psychic
Thunderbolt/Focus Blast/Thunderbolt

Support Gardy that also counters Gyarados and Weezing. :D EVs make it bulky to take hits.
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Tough decision xD.

Thanks DS, I'm guessing this set is superior to the CM set?
 
King Tyranitar said:
Tough decision xD.

Thanks DS, I'm guessing this set is superior to the CM set?
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The Calm Mind set can only have one move to help it and isn't meant to counter Gyarados or Electivire, either Will-O-Wisp or Wish. Wish makes it fragile against Physical Sweepers while Will-O-Wisp makes it have no recovery which simply isn't good at all when it's so fragile and no recovery for its partners either. :(
 
BulkyGard it is then. Bye Skarm, you served me well.
 
Stone Edge is useless on Gliscor...I don't know why people use it besides "Gyarados switch-ins" which is the saddest excuse to use something I've ever seen in my life. Use whatever the other option was.

As for this quote:

"Starmie does [counter Gyarados and Weezing], but if they have Blissey they keep switching and I'm walled."

Or you could put your thinking cap on and predict the obvious Blissey switch-in and let it have fun with CBtar ;) Always works.

EDIT: BTW you're really CM Missy weak.
 
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