ShoddyBattle Team.

[Chompah :x]

The Line-Up---


Azelf@ Choice Scarf ** YaTrickYa
-Naive Nature [ + Speed - Defense ]
-Levitate
-252 Special Attack / 36 Attack / 220 Speed

~ Explosion
~ Hidden Power [Ice]
~ Fire Blast
~ Taunt

TauntAzelf seems quite handy :].
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Overview ;;
Azelf is quite possibly my favourite Pokemon and with Choice Scarf it can be unstoppable at times. Hidden Power [Ice] is there to KO dragons who ScarfChomps who think Zelfy can't touch them. Fire Blast roasts Metagross, Bronzong, Steel, Heracross and many others. Taunt is there to lol at Sweepers / Walls who try to set up or wishpass in my face. But Grass Knot can come in handy when a bulky Water appears. Explosion is to lol at Blissey.
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Heracross@ Choice Band ** Cross
-Adamant [ + Attack - Special Attack ]
-Guts
-104 HP / 252 Attack / 152 Speed

~ Megahorn
~ Close Combat
~ Stone Edge
~ Night Slash

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Overview ;;
ChoiceBand Cross is an absolute beast. Choice Band + Guts Activated + 252 Attack EVS + Adamant Nature = Utter Unstoppable Chaos. Night Slash since most people expect a Pursuit and stay in :[.
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Donphan@ Leftovers ** Banana
-Impish [ + Defense - Special Attack ]
-Sturdy
-252 HP / 252 Defense / 4 Attack

~ Ice Shard
~ Earthquake
~ Rapid Spin
~ Knock Off

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Overview ;;
Knock Off is fun. ChoiceBand/Scarf/Specs get lolled at after I knock off their items.
Ice Shard is to put big dents in Dragons. Rapid Spin is essential. Earthquake is STAB and an extremely powerful move with 100 Base Power.
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Sceptile@ Leftovers ** LeafoMon
-Timid [ + Speed - Attack ]
-Overgrow
-200 HP / 56 Defense / 252 Speed

~ Substitute
~ Leech Seed
~ Protect / HP [Ghost] ??
~ Toxic / Grass Knot

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Overview ;;
Sceptile is the fastest user of SubSeed. HP Flying is there to KO incoming Infernape. Toxic and protect
stalls the crap outta everything. Sub-Seed-Toxic-Protect
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Infernape@ Life Orb ** Disco Inferno
-Naive [ + Speed - Defense ]
-Blaze
-232 Speed / 252 Special Attack / 24 Attack

~ Nasty Plot
~ Fire Blast
~ Grass Knot
~ Close Combat

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Overview ;;
If Infernape gets a Nasty Plot up its game over for alot of things. Close Combat is STAB and it's got awesome power. Fire Blast burns things and lols at everything thats weak to it and it's also STAB. Grass Knot for idiot Waters who switch in trying to KO with Surf.
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Blissey@ Leftovers ** Little Michael
-Bold [ + Defense - Attack ]
-Natural Cure
-148 HP / 252 Defense / 104 Special Attack / 4 Special Defense

~ Wish
~ Protect
~ Ice Beam
~ Seismic Toss

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Overview ;;
WishSupport is great! Protect so Blissey can have it's own Wish. Ice Beam for Dragons and Grass types. Seismic Toss is essential and destroys PokeMon with low Base HP.
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Well that's my team.

 

[Shadowz]

Lovely team, very balanced, did you make up the Evs and Movesets?

 

[Anti]

Lovely team, very balanced, did you make up the Evs and Movesets?

How is this team balanced when Azelf, Scpetile, and Infernape basically have the same coverage on their attacks?

^BTW you might wanna fix that :0

Nobody will really bother switching out Azelf or starmie since they're French Toast anyways and Pursuit is common. That could really work against you.

In all honesty this team can't really take strong physical attacks from Choice Band pokemon like Machamp, Gallade, Medicham, and Heracross. Weavile also kind of destroys you.

BTW the sweeping you have is really redudant as mentioned baove...they cover the same things :/

 

[Chompah :x]

Hmmm.
So maybe I should swap Sceptile out for a phsyical Wall??

 

[Anti]

Hmmm.
So maybe I should swap Sceptile out for a phsyical Wall??

That would be a good idea.

Dusknoir would be good because it takes Megahorn and Close Combat from any verison of Heracross and also covers Blissey's fighting weakness. you can also scout for Hyper Beam from Nasty Plot Porygon-Z.

 

[Chompah :x]

Sweet..
Thanks.
Anti-pop. Well i'm off, Ill update the team when I get home.

 

[Outlawed]

Actually this team isn't that balanced.
I don't get the EV distritbution at all. You seem to wanna sweep but still put EV's in wrong places.

Azelf, why make it a scarfise with explosion.
252 spd/252 sp.atk/6 HP
done

Also infernape....
why special attack??
he has better attack and a better physical moveset.

Also Sceptile.... hell no lol
Subsitute, it wont even take a hit and fade automatically. even with the HP pump up.
it should be.
252 sp.atk/ 252 spd/ 6 whatever
energy ball
dragon pulse
HP[ice]/toxic
something

Blissey
put evs into Special deffence and HP that's it
Ice Beam
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Yawn/anything

I love the Heracross and Donphan they seem to fit best here.

 

[Loto]

What are you talking about Blissey NEEDS full def EV's and it should have max HP ev's for overall durability unless it's wish support like his is but still needs max defense EV's or if it switches into a focus punch or something like that it won't just die. Blissey doesn't need any Sp Def. ev's at all I say his blissey if fine as is.

Also infernape can run a special sweeper set or It can be a Mixape either is fineso leave his infernape alone.

I suggest Dusknoir or forry as a wall to add in as mentioned Prob Dusknoir for this team.

 

[Outlawed]

Ha.
Even with Deffensie Ev's maxed, blissey will have a have a hard time living those physical attacks.
Also, with out Sp.Def maxed out, Blissey will also hard time living 2 sweeped up special moves by a special sweeper. Imagine Nasty plot Prygon-Z focus blasting that. 2 hits dead.

Why get 2 equal sides and 2 equal chances of dying when you can max a side out and make it harder for you to fall when your facing Alakazam and Gengar?

 

[Dark Azelf]

Ha.
Even with Deffensie Ev's maxed, blissey will have a have a hard time living those physical attacks.
Also, with out Sp.Def maxed out, Blissey will also hard time living 2 sweeped up special moves by a special sweeper. Imagine Nasty plot Prygon-Z focus blasting that. 2 hits dead.

Why get 2 equal sides and 2 equal chances of dying when you can max a side out and make it harder for you to fall when your facing Alakazam and Gengar?

Max hp and max def Blissey can live a Close Combat from Mixape and a Cross Chop from Electivire. Without the def it dies to tackle.


However your right about it getting owned by certain sp.sweepers this gen.


My favourite ev spread it this

252 DEF / 212 SP.DEF / 40 Sp.ATT @ Calm nature, this stops all sp.sweepers dead.

 

[Outlawed]

now you are talkinge . That spread is lovely actually.
never thought of that really.
on a side note, I said it would take 2 hits to die with 2 crosschops. and it wont do anything to electivire or Infernape. Think about it, get hit with cross chop with adamant max iv, ev, in atk electivire, I bet it's hp will get near red zone with full deffense, at least it lives though I see your point.

 

[Loto]

Better to have it a live then dead in in my opinion -_-

That is a nice spread though, I like it a lot. I might use it. ;)

 

[luke]

Outlawed, 252 / 252 / 6 spreads generally aren't the best. You're underestimating these spreads. Infernape's Attack and Special Attack are equal and it's movepool for both are about equal. So, please learn the basics of certain Pokemon before you comment. Thanks.

 

[Anti]

now you are talkinge . That spread is lovely actually.
never thought of that really.
on a side note, I said it would take 2 hits to die with 2 crosschops. and it wont do anything to electivire or Infernape. Think about it, get hit with cross chop with adamant max iv, ev, in atk electivire, I bet it's hp will get near red zone with full deffense, at least it lives though I see your point.

Because we're really going to leave Blissey in on Electivire :/

And like Blueberry said, 252/252/4 spreads are only good on a few sweepers and walls, and that's it. Azelf doesn't even need max speed.

 

[Outlawed]

Outlawed, 252 / 252 / 6 spreads generally aren't the best. You're underestimating these spreads. Infernape's Attack and Special Attack are equal and it's movepool for both are about equal. So, please learn the basics of certain Pokemon before you comment. Thanks.

Inferanpe has more atk than sp.atk......
252/252/4 spreads go well with some pokes, yes and? the pokes I suggested for need the stat boost, why are you trying to balance you stats?? you want the blissey to act as a special wall and a physical wall at the same time? living some fighting attacks? Just get a physcal wall to do it's thing and a special to also do it's thing and then you swtich out comfortably. that simple.

 

[luke]

No, it's base Special Attack and Attack are the same. Since you can't even get this right, I'll have a hard time taking anything else you say to heart. Yes, Blissey is a Special Wall. But you don't want it to get murdered by a surprise Physical attack you weren't expecting. So you cover your bases. So yeah. Good day.

 

[Ársa]

Inferanpe has more atk than sp.atk......
252/252/4 spreads go well with some pokes, yes and? the pokes I suggested for need the stat boost, why are you trying to balance you stats?? you want the blissey to act as a special wall and a physical wall at the same time? living some fighting attacks? Just get a physcal wall to do it's thing and a special to also do it's thing and then you swtich out comfortably. that simple.

lol, I'm sorry to say, but you are arguing with 2 of the most competent raters on PC in Anti-Pop and Blueberry (Loquacity to me ;)). Please learn basic pokemon before you comment. Your Blissey spread is crap, as it already walls most Special Threats, and with the added Physical, it can survive a Close Combat from Mix-Ape, a CB'd Brick Break from Jolly Weavile etc. Otherwise, dead to the world.

On the team side, I agree with Anti. All your sweepers cover the same thing. Ditch Sceptile for Dusknoir, it can scout problems, just like anti said, and provides some resistence to CB/S Cross. Take out Seismic Toss on Bliss and add Toxic/Thunder Wave. Toxic Stalling is so fun with Bliss, and makes more productive use of Wish/Protect.

~T_S

 

[Outlawed]

Yeah, I mixed it up with Blaziken sorry about that -_-"

 

[Anti]

Inferanpe has more atk than sp.atk......

Your arrogance has been ticking me off so you're going to hear something you don't want to.

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.

Infernape has equal Special Attack and physical attack. 104 base for each.

252/252/4 spreads go well with some pokes, yes and? the pokes I suggested for need the stat boost, why are you trying to balance you stats??

I love the double-standards people set these days.

Because like those lousy 252/252/4 spreads you keep talking about, some pokemon NEED balance.

you want the blissey to act as a special wall and a physical wall at the same time?

Way to take it out of context.

living some fighting attacks? Just get a physcal wall to do it's thing and a special to also do it's thing and then you swtich out comfortably. that simple.

Tell me what happens when what you thought was specsmence is packing a surprise Brick Break. Then what?

I'm getting really sick of that attitude of yours when you have only a few weak teams to back it up ;/

Sicne you've gotten me so terribly angry, I'm going to back up my claim with some solid facts.

Let's say we have an attacker with 200 attack (which is pretty bad lol) and it has Earthquake. With max HP and no defense, it will do 36%-42% on max HP Blissey with no defense and a nuetral nature.

Give Blissey bold and max Defense, and that same attack from the same pokemon will do 16%-18% on Blissey.

So before you start questioning everything we say, make sure it's actually a fairly decent claim ;/

 

[Outlawed]

I'm getting really sick of that attitude of yours when you have only a few weak teams to back it up ;/

Sicne you've gotten me so terribly angry, I'm going to back up my claim with some solid facts.

Let's say we have an attacker with 200 attack (which is pretty bad lol) and it has Earthquake. With max HP and no defense, it will do 36%-42% on max HP Blissey with no defense and a nuetral nature.

Give Blissey bold and max Defense, and that same attack from the same pokemon will do 16%-18% on Blissey.

So before you start questioning everything we say, make sure it's actually a fairly decent claim ;/

Now you are talking. This is the kind of critisim that gets me learning not just random flamming and saying things I dont understand (since to you i'm apparently a n00b)