Should we keep the Rep-System?

[Shinin]

The top level? I assume you mean reputation ranks, right? You reach the final level at 10,000, and right now, there are about five or so people at that level, one of them being me. ^_^; I didn't ask for the reputation though, and now I'm nearly at 13,000. o.o; I'll admit, I was one of many people who liked giving out random good rep, until I found out the true purpose behind rep, after which I stopped.

If you have 13,000 rep, why do you have 1 grey block?

 

[Porygon]

Mwar, it's black, and duh, she shut it off.

 

[Shinin]

Oh. I thought grey was between red & green.

 

[Porygon]

It is. It's difficult to obtain, though. Most rep decreases hurl ya past the grey zone and into the red.

 

[Kyogre-chan]

Nobody wants bad rep, but still, it's common sense to not ask for rep, good or bad.

And yeah, I had my rep hidden. I re-enabled it to show you, but since you're offline... *disables again* ^^;

 

[Frostweaver]

Nobody wants bad rep

Oh admit it... you know that you're more unique and special if you got 50 red blocks instead of everyone else's 50 green blocks =D

Actually... someone here mentioned how you know who to stay away from if you see someone with more than 2 red blocks (if that's even possible... the worst I've seen yet aren't banned is just 1 red block). Technically, that is the right thing for reputation... However...

You know... the latest controversies in PC within the pass 6 months (with the exception to random spammers who would be banned before someone can even give them a bad rep) are actually all involved by people well in the 1000s for reps, having the longest bar possible... yet all the trouble/controversies are revolving them (let's not forget how half of them are also pure-staff/ex-staff related problems.)

I wonder what's wrong there... Frosty do not know... It can't possibly be the rep system's fault though! They CANNOT POSSIBLY FAIL YOU KNOW! NO WAY!

 

[Kyogre-chan]

That's quite some point you've got there, frosty. As others have said, the rep system causes nothing but arguments and contraversy.

And you're wrong. The pretty black box pwnz all. XD

 

[Kylie-chan]

Pory, Ty is, actually, contrary to his opinion, male~ =D
And there are new levels, Dakota edited them ^^
Like, there's a 20K level, which I have =D

 

[Kyogre-chan]

Such a reputation is more proof that the abuse exists. =\

 

[Kylie-chan]

Good rep abuse, yes, but Ty, don't you dare imply I got my rep through good rep abuse alone >>

 

[Frostweaver]

Such a reputation is more proof that the abuse exists. =\

Well the high rep level doesn't really support that the abuse exist... as you can theortically make so many good posts that you have earned so much reputation points. If you're trying to argue something, always double check to see if it actually supports what you're trying to argue about XD;

I am not sure how much reps all those staffs/ex-staffs have, as I never bothered to scroll over to see the level. I just look at the length of the bar =p

Still my point remains true... can a rep system supporter please answer my question regarding why did *all* the controversies in PC, excluding those started by spammers who would be banned before they can even get a bad rep, are involved with people who got high reps and never those who got hardly any rep?

 

[Lion Heart]

I'll have a go at it.

I think that the controversies apart from new spammers, are caused by people with higher rep as they have been here longer.
By this, I mean, they have had more of a time period to have gained the good rep in.

Maybe these people simply got fed up with someone and just let it out?

Perhaps they couldn't keep it bottled up anymore, as they may have been a role model member, and didn't want that to go away.

 

[Imakuni?]

I believe it should stay. WHy? because its a good way for members to give/recieve feedback. Sure, there will be a few idiots who choose to abuse it, but what do we do? Report it to an Admin/otherstaff figure, who can either remove the abusive members abilities to use reputation/other punishment as they feel is appropriate.
(this opinion does not reflect/reflect upon the opinions of the Pokecommunty members, and is the sole opinion of Imakuni?)

 

[PrinceOfDarkness]

I believe the REP system should stay. Its like to see if someone is a good person or if someone is a bad person. (I am just hoping everyone is a good person.

 

[Aisu K.]

I have a suggestion. It may have been presented before, but maybe before a rep is given, it will be sent in to admins first, and if it is reasonable, it will be done, but if not, it will be rejected.

 

[Freenaturearts]

Wasint this place closed?

Btw I'm still for keeping the rep . They help alot more then harm.

Good idea o.o. That would help out with the people who just post reps for barly any reason , and help people in having rep points they really deserve^_^

 

[Frostweaver]

I'll have a go at it.

I think that the controversies apart from new spammers, are caused by people with higher rep as they have been here longer.
By this, I mean, they have had more of a time period to have gained the good rep in.

Thank you for stating just how is the rep system failing at the moment... -_-;

Since when did long time staying here result in automatic-default high quality posting? Time doesn't certify anything... =D

As for the admin suggestion, if the admins are paid to do their job then certainly. However, right now they're actually volunteers and it's inhumane to force them to sort out hundreds of rep-contributes every single day. In fact, some of them are coughing out their own money just to get this volunteer job... poor them.

 

[Lion Heart]

Frosty you took it out of context and didn't take what I meant into consideration.

What I meant was the people who have been here longer have had more of a chance to have gained rep and show there true colours, someone who has been here a year has most likely made more worthwhile posts than someone who joined today.

 

[Kyogre-chan]

Sure, there will be a few idiots who choose to abuse it, but what do we do? Report it to an Admin/otherstaff figure, who can either remove the abusive members abilities to use reputation/other punishment as they feel is appropriate.

Ah, but that's where the problems come in. You see, people think that random undeserved good reputation is fine, yet random undeserved bad reputation is a crime. They're both equally abusive, but people would never go so far as to report good rep abuse. It's not about bad rep abuse, it's about rep abuse in general. People don't seem to realise that by giving out random reps, they're abusing the system, and I've tried educating people many times on this factor, yet they won't listen. But then again, that's my opinion, so I'll leave you with a basis to argue on.

 

[Frostweaver]

What I meant was the people who have been here longer have had more of a chance to have gained rep and show there true colours, someone who has been here a year has most likely made more worthwhile posts than someone who joined today.

2 people joined at the same time (let's say, a year ago.) One of them stayed only in Other Chat, and the other stayed only in Pokemon Fanfiction. 100% of the time, when something like this happens, *ALWAYS* the one in Other Chat will gain a higher reputation. Hah... it's a miracle =3

And it's a bit *too much* of a coincidence if you say "well that means the guy in Other Chat made more quality posts than the guy in Pokemon Fanfiction then." Because this happens 100% of the time... =P

(Meh even I myself is an example... I only post outside of Pokemon Fanfiction in this thread, and within a week my rep points seemed to double... well at least the length of the bar seems to have doubled XD Strange isn't it, or did my posts quality went up only in this last week and never in the past years?)

One way to solve all problems: Get rid of it