Should we keep the Rep-System?

[ryan]

i think we should keep rep. rep is kinda fun. i get bad rep every so often for no good reason. it's annoying to get bad rep when you're debating something with somebody, and you take the other side, keep it respectful, and get bad rep. that's just immature. but, it's fun to have i think. i think the best way to deal with the problem would be (if it was even possible) to have the users' name with every rep delivered. because most people who give bad rep for stupid reasons would think twice before doing it if their name was attatched to it.

 

[husk1442]

I like that idea better

Rep is ok but, immature brats ruin it for everyone. Especially people who you haven't done anything to and are guessing (why?) who offended them. If you can't read their username and give the person you wanted negitive rep, get off the board.

 

[Lord Jaws]

Yeah attaching names to rep is a good idea. If I give a bad rep its coz I believe it was deserved. So Id have no problem with that idea.

 

[Cassie-chan]

It needs to go...

Why must people complain everytime they get a bad rep? If they didn't I might even use the rep system~

 

[MegaDitto]

Yeah attaching names to rep is a good idea. If I give a bad rep its coz I believe it was deserved. So Id have no problem with that idea.

That is a good idea but the staff said that that would make it worse.But would it be better if there was a way to see which members are mature like wouever could go to the Tdome can be given that right bucause they would be mature enough.

 

[Anacortes]

Umm..members who have access to the T-Dome are not depended on their maturity or age. They simply just PM higher staff. If they're abusing it they'll get kicked from the forum. I think that's it..
It's basically not fair if only staff could see who gave them rep. Why can't you allow us members to see it too? I mean..that way peple would wantto think twice before giving pointless bad rep but encourages use of rep abuse by giving pointless good rep..
Whatdd'ya know? Nothing works..

 

[Kyogre-chan]

Usually, Ty is on, but at times there is simply no one, only ordinary members like me.

I'm on quite frequently, don't let the lack of posting behind invisible mode fool you. Also, I balance PC with 4 other forums, 2 of which I'm required to post on due to my staff status there, so I can't be here all the time, but I spend a majority of my time here, and to a lesser extent, at mF. ^_^;

Umm..members who have access to the T-Dome are not depended on their maturity or age. They simply just PM higher staff. If they're abusing it they'll get kicked from the forum. I think that's it..
It's basically not fair if only staff could see who gave them rep. Why can't you allow us members to see it too? I mean..that way peple would wantto think twice before giving pointless bad rep but encourages use of rep abuse by giving pointless good rep..
Whatdd'ya know? Nothing works..

Because, is there any reason why we should? So you can return the rep? Sorry, but that's rep abuse. Also, staff are chosen because they're trustworthy, which is why we can see who gives us rep. Actually, mods weren't able to see who repped them until recently - only higher staff could. o.o;

 

[Lion Heart]

access to the T-Dome are not depended on their maturity or age. They simply just PM higher staff. If they're abusing it they'll get kicked from the forum

True about how you get in, but the way you get kicked out is more along the lines of opposing someone with power on the site.

I think if we could see who bad repped us, we'd all just go track them down and bad rep them back which is a bad idea.

 

[Frostweaver]

Well, if we can't get rid of it, why not reverse the order?

Have everyone start off at maximum, and then let the staff member give out bad reps to those who are acting stupid/ignorant/rude/rule-breaking/etc... More like a "warning" system instead of a "rep system" but at least it works a bit better than the crap we have now... >>

For those who don't think that anything's wrong with the current system: think this way. Is it naturall for half of PC to be getting full on reps? =o The rep system is suppose to show who is outstanding, not "oh c'mon you really should have at least 5 blocks of green rep by now... you've joined for one month already!"

Also, look at someone who frequents Other Chat often, and compare his/her rep to someone who will go nowhere else but Pokemon Trading Card, or Other Games forum... *HUGE* difference in rep... More you frequent Other Chat, Comments and Feedback, and Mixed Voting Polls, the more reps you will gain *by default*. Obviously, another huge flaw in the system.

 

[Lion Heart]

Not a bad idea Frosty, but I think that would create tension between members and staff.

Perhaps a second bar could be added?

The one we have now, aswell as a seperate one which can only be added to or reduced by mods/admins etc..

 

[Frostweaver]

I think that would create tension between members and staff.

That's what the mod are hired/appointed to do... why should we have them wasting space in the View Forum Leaders page if they aren't going to act against those who are against the rules of PC. If they aren't willing to do it, or is too "weak willed" to do it, then perhaps it's time to reconsider the choice for them to be a staff to begin with.

What tension can possibly exist as long as people act their part and do their role... -_-; Then again, knowing PC, we'll get...

A: "That Rep Down is way too unnecessary! Well, like, c'mon! He's only banned 4 times, spammed 6 forums and flamed 23 members! Give him a chance!"
B: "Yeah"
C: "Whatever A said"
D: "The staff who did this is the worst!"

And a whole mob of mindlessness roams around like mad zombies until somebody get demodded/banned ^_^

 

[Kyogre-chan]

Please explain to me how the separate bars would work. ^_^;

And I'm still all for getting rid of the bias meter.

 

[Frostweaver]

It just means that one of the bars is like what we have now.

The other bar is a bar that starts off full. Then for every time a high staff gives you a bad rep because (hopefully) you did something against the rules of PC, then they can give you a "rep down" on this new bar. If this bar is short, then it means you did a lot of bad things in PC, but just not enough to be banned (yet.) It's like a warning system...

Of course, best choice possible is just to get rid of it. But when, what will happen to those poor Fame Seekers? Oh well I'm very sure that they can find some other way to gain fame for themselves without the rep system =D

 

[Kyogre-chan]

Ah, you mean like the Karma system on Simple Machines? To me, it seems like another way of fueling the flaming of staff. ^_^;

Oh, and a question to those of you who wish to keep the Reputation system... Why do you want to keep it?

 

[Lion Heart]

The reason I'd rather it stay is because it's a fun little feature.

That's honestly my reason for wanting it kept.

As human beings, we should be allowed all the fun little features we want.

 

[Kyogre-chan]

I understand that you people have fun with it, but why? The whole purpose of it is to commemorate a good post by yourself, and the opposite for bad posts. I don't see the fun in somebody saying that they like your post, unless you're talking about people giving undeserved reps. That's abuse.

 

[Frostweaver]

I really wouldn't mind it being here at all if it's used properly ^_^; It's a good way for people to know who got the brains to speak with (at least) decent English in a post with a little bit of common sense and thinking to go along with the good English.

Say that you're new to PC or just new to this particular sub-forum. Well who should these people look up to? Or perhaps you posted a question that got no "absolutely correct" answer, especially in the Pokemon games forum regarding a good Pokemon or team buildup. Well, whose answers are worth your time reading?

The rep system (if used properly) shall tell you. Those with high reps will give answers that are more likely to be a good answer compare to those with a negative rep. With the rep system on your side, you can automatically ignore those stupid "Oh Charizard should always have Blast Burn" suggestions even if you know nothing about the Pokemon game. Using the rep system, you know that those suggestions are mostly an ignorant answer that shall be ignored, or needs to be educated.

Problem right now is that with the rep system used incorrectly, some fools are making themselves look good and are causing negative influences among others who need the guidance. Hence, the problem better be solved asap (which is preferable if possible), or might as well take it out before these negative influences further the damage that has already been done.

 

[Lion Heart]

Ty, I said it's a fun little system, I never said I have fun with it, it's just cool to have around _buddy_

frosty, if that was how it worked, all new people would be looked over, no matter how great they are at what they do, because people will skip over them and onto people who have higher rep.

 

[Alex_]

My opinion: Keep it,if someone is abusing the rep system put them in the usergroup to where they cant give rep. If you dont like your rep,turn it off. Simple as that, no need to completely get rid of it :\

 

[Lion Heart]

According to a bad rep I got people won't demote people for it.

Is usergroup like Mods/Admins etc?

If not ignore this.