Shuckle

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    I have went over it and over it and I don't see why no one uses shuckle. If it has rest, power trick, earthquake and any other move, holding a chesto or lum berry. An impish nature with maxed defenses, I mean, it couldn't hurt could it. Even if you went without power trick, it could seismic toss couldn't it. Tell me what you think.
     
    well most people don't use it because it has terrible hp
    i asked about shuckle a couple of weeks ago and was told to make shuckle the best it can be, to max out hp evs (252) and divide the rest into defense and sp. def
    it works for me ^^
     
    It has below average attack. When Power Trick is used. It can be defeated easily before it attacks.
     
    dude you guyz are crazy, i use one, toxic makes it the ultimate annoyer+stelth rock
     
    It has below average attack. When Power Trick is used. It can be defeated easily before it attacks.

    If you pit it against a special sweeper, the Power Trick strategy could work. Mean Look would prevent them from switching to something physical.
     
    If you pit it against a special sweeper, the Power Trick strategy could work. Mean Look would prevent them from switching to something physical.

    Ah yes. The Special Defense. That's still a valid defense. But Shuckle can still be defeated in battle. D;
     
    not many people use shuckle because, it has low HP and a terrible pair of offensive stats. however it makes up for this by being one of the greatest walls out their. most shuckle i have seen are annoyers with move sets like:

    Toxic
    Double team
    Sleep talk
    Rest

    holding chesto berries.
     
    But with power trick, it could easily take out most starmies, milotics alakazams and other special sweepers so I think I'll add one to my team.
     
    It has below average attack. When Power Trick is used. It can be defeated easily before it attacks.

    Below average? More like non-existant.
    This is the list of Shuckle's base stats.

    HP 20
    Attack 10
    Defense 230
    Special Attack 10
    Special Defense 230
    Speed 5

    I prefer this set, however, it may seem 3rd Gen-ish (with the exception of Stealth Rock).

    Curse
    Toxic
    Sandstorm
    Stealth Rock (maybe?)

    not many people use shuckle because, it has low HP and a terrible pair of offensive stats. however it makes up for this by being one of the greatest walls out their. most shuckle i have seen are annoyers with move sets like:

    Toxic
    Double team
    Sleep talk
    Rest

    holding chesto berries.

    Sleep Talk would either make Shuckle use Toxic (when the Pokemon should already be poisoned) or Double Team (which is illegal anyway). Rest sucks on Shuckle because it has such low HP, even with max HP EVs, Shuckle would still get murdered.
     
    You are all thinking of how low his hp is instead of how his defenses are almost double most pokemons stats.
     
    Basicly, almost any move that bypasses defence, especially poison/burn, will hurt. Alot.
     
    I think it could live long enough to stall a great bit, most people say that blisseys have too low def to take anything and are therefore useless but my blissey took a thunderpunch from an electivire with an adamant nature, but it is only fair to say that I used a bold nature and maxed def evs with a 30 iv in def.
     
    I agree, just max out Hp, and put remaining in defence and SP defence, Shuckle isn't meant to fight on the frontlines, he is there to take some hits, and Toxic the hell out of the enemy. I have mixed opinions on powertrick though, I think shuckle is to slow to make a use out of it...
     
    I agree with that, and it's too risky to try quick claw but you have to admit if it worked it could possibly defeat anything. for example, first turn quick claw doesn't work and you get attacked and it hardly does anything, then on that turn you use power trick, the second turn if it worked you could get in an earthquake and take out a blissey if you wanted to.
     
    Below average? More like non-existant.
    This is the list of Shuckle's base stats.

    HP 20
    Attack 10
    Defense 230
    Special Attack 10
    Special Defense 230
    Speed 5

    I prefer this set, however, it may seem 3rd Gen-ish (with the exception of Stealth Rock).

    Curse
    Toxic
    Sandstorm
    Stealth Rock (maybe?)



    Sleep Talk would either make Shuckle use Toxic (when the Pokemon should already be poisoned) or Double Team (which is illegal anyway). Rest sucks on Shuckle because it has such low HP, even with max HP EVs, Shuckle would still get murdered.

    im positve that double team isnt illegal. i saw this in the battle factory.
     
    with shuckle, you definitly need to EV its HP, as said. but heres a little strategy that may work.
    Moves
    -Power Trick
    -Toxic
    -Earthquake
    -Encore

    it pretty much only works on pokemon that only have special attacks. Use toxic, then Encore with them using a special move. THen power trick, so you arent vulnerable to physical moves. Then earthquake. sumin like that.
     
    with shuckle, you definitly need to EV its HP, as said. but heres a little strategy that may work.
    Moves
    -Power Trick
    -Toxic
    -Earthquake
    -Encore

    it pretty much only works on pokemon that only have special attacks. Use toxic, then Encore with them using a special move. THen power trick, so you arent vulnerable to physical moves. Then earthquake. sumin like that.

    Earthquake on Shuckle sucks so incredibly badly. I'm also pretty sure that Shuckle has the lowest Attack stat of any Pokemon.

    im positve that double team isnt illegal. i saw this in the battle factory.

    The Battle Factory is in-game.
     
    Now how is double-team illegal? I swear,all these new rules are gonna ruin the game.
     
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