I'm starting to get a headache.
I second this. Seriously, this is getting ridiculous...Poke King, I've admitted before freely when I'm wrong (you can search through my 1000+ posts if you really want to see examples), but I keep arguing with you because the way that you're acting. Art_Critic_Cubone put it into words the best:
Art_Critic_Cubone said:
don't expect me to listen to anyone who speaks as if theirs is the only true viewpoint.
And that's exactly what you've been doing.
Now I'm not going to cover all of the points you've brought up, since a lot of them are just too ridiculous to bother with, but here we go again:
Poke King said:
god forbid someone comes into a thread and tries to make it so people stop thinking something is right when its wrong like how can anyone think a Snorlax can't swim lol.
Ash & co. sure didn't think it could swim, as I remember their reaction to seeing the Snorlax swimming quite well...as surprise.
Poke King said:
Ya that shows they did it once, so if you can say they probably did it more why can't I say they probably didn't. Like I said before if I say no to something that hasn't been proven a few of you say but...maybe and your going on speculation but you act like I am wrong when I am going by what we see in the Anime and considering that moment you speak of was one of the few times we have ever since Ash battle someone in his gang out of the hundreds of episodes that isn't saying much in fact to prove they may be doing it outside the Anime.
Bit there IS evidence that they did that (as in having battles outside the episodes) more. There has been more than one episode that had an opening/ending like that, as I said before. One episode in particular that I can think of was back early on in the first season--in the episode with the unofficial gym (the Sandshrew trainer), the show opens with Ash in a battle, and when he wins it he claims that it's his TENTH win. We, however, only saw one victory, so where were the other nine? In between the episodes. That proves that there's more going on then we see (in fact, the gym sign said it had 98 wins when they got there, yet we never saw a single one of them).
Poke King said:
For instants Team Aqua and Magma did manage to contain Kyogre & Groudon though they didn't manage to traditionally capture them via Poké Ball for some reason. Raiko was contained, Mewtwo could be considered to be contained until it broke free, Jirachi was temporarily contained, Celebi was caught in Pokémon 4Ever by that Dark Poké Ball thing, Latios is contained in Pokémon Heroes, Deoxys in a way was contained in its hyberantive state or whatever you call it when it was just the jewel thing in Pokémon: Destiny Deoxys, in Pokémon The Movie 2000: The Power of One all three Legendary Birds were contained, a Baby Lugia is contained and as for others nothing is coming to mind.
While Kyogre & Groudon
were contained, they were asleep so there ws no resistance, so it can't really be counted (where's the challenge in capturing a sleeping opponent?). Mewtwo stayed there out of its own will because it didn't know better at the time, so that can't count either. And, in response to the Deoxys comment, hibernation is not in any way a form of containment (and it was just out of energy anyway, so that doesn't really count either). The rest are true, though.
Poke King said:
we at the time were talking about why he captures Pokémon that everyone assume the Pokémon I listed were ones he tried to capture and was successful at
That's just it--he WASN'T successful at capturing it, since it evolved before he could capture it. It was Primeape that he managed to capture, not Mankey.
Poke King said:
1) You said its not all about capturing Pokémon when I said why doesn't he capture Pokémon but I then responded by saying the goal of being a Pokémon Trainer is to capture/train Pokémon. Proven wrong for the first time.
2) You said Ash taught Pikachu Volt Tackle but he didn't. Proven wrong for the second time.
3) You made a comment on how he could forget the whole Normal/Ghost Type thing but I said he wants to be a Pokémon Master so he can't forget something that is basic. Proven wrong for the third time.
4) You said the reason he focused on a small amount of Pokémon was because its better to have a few Level 100's than a bunch of Level 50's and I said if he trained them right they all be Level 100's. Proven wrong for the fourth time.
5) You gave two reasons on why his Pokémon don't evolve and acted like what I said was wrong then I gave a third reason which you seems to think not possible of being the truth which was they weren't trained well enough. Proven wrong for the fifth time.
6) You said my comments lacked in the fact department but all you did in your first post as well as other is spout speculation by saying he may battle Brock in between episodes. Proven wrong for the sixth time.
Art_Critic_Cubone (whom I have to give a big "Thanks" to) already covered most of these for me, but Ash DID teach Pikachu how to actually use Volt Tackle (which I was referring to), and that's not all that I said in my first post (if you'd taken the time to pay attention)...and I said in the first place "for all we know", meaning that I admitted that part was speculation. Of course, there's the rest of it, which came from logic & actual knowledge.
Poke King said:
An example of this is say you go to a Pet Store and see a animal that is considered rare in the world but there are like 200 of them in the store at any time, though rare in the world they are common to anyone who goes to the store therefore by that example Starters though rare in the wild are common to Trainers who want them when starting out therefore are not rare to those that matter which are of course are the Trainers because there the ones who have to worry about rarity of Pokémon because there the ones who capture them after all.
..........Okay, let's go with that example. Let's say that that store only sells pets to the people that live in that town. Then, anybody outside of that town would have to go elsewhere to find their pet. Therefore, the rarity of that pet comes back into play for all of those people, regardless of how many are in that store.
You're probably wondering what that has to do with anything. Well, I doubt that every single new trainer goes to Pallet Town to start, so they don't all get a starter that way.
And there's still the fact that each trainer only gets ONE starter, so they have to search for the other two...And there's the earlier-mentioned "disappointment factor" to consider--Ash wanted them in the first place, but couldn't get them because he was late, so when he found them of course he was going to capture them to make up for not getting them before.
Moving on...
goofy_charizard_girl said:
I think pokemon master should just mean that you are the best in batteling and you have the strongest pokemon.
I actually think that's a good idea. After all, what does it matter how many Pokemon you have if they're the strongest around? And as for that "Gotta Catch 'Em All!" thing, I think that was done just for kids to go buy the games and/or trade with other people. Of course, that would mean they wouldn't be around to watch the show, so it could have ended up counter-productive...
Mudkip85 said:
As for the oppurtunities of catching legendaries there have been various occassions where Ash has had the chance to capture them. Apart from the movies where he could have potentially caught the likes of Entei and the legedary birds, Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres, throughout the anime he has encountered Ho-oh, Lugia, Suicine, celebi, deoxys, Groudon and Kyrogue, but did not capture niether one of them. As for has anyone captured a legendary before, in theory no but there has been one occassion i do recall back in Hoenn where Ash met a boy who lived on an island in Hoenn that had a Lugia who stayed and played with him.
Well, while there are probably places where he could have tried to catch a legendary, not only wouldn't he (as I think I've said before, he believes/knows that they belong in nature), but the writers wouldn't let him, simply because it would make things too easy for him. And as for the Lugia, wasn't it technically still wild? I sure don't remember seeing it have a Pokeball...
Oh, another post came up while I was busy typing...
Art_Critic_Cubone said:
I've been wondering about his various captures, and I think I've come up with the answer- Ash only thinks these Pokemon are rare because he's hardly ever seen another trainer with one that we know of! (That one isn't too serious of a theory, but I can see Ash doing that.)
HAHA Yeah, that's possible.
Art_Critic_Cubone said:
It isn't green? (Just kidding, just kidding.) Hmm... you know, the sky isn't always blue either, however. Sometimes it's pink, purple, red, even grey if clouds are covering it.
Hmm...I've seen red, orange, white, gray, and blue, but never pink or purple. You're lucky if you get to see that.
Art_Critic_Cubone said:
Now, who wants to talk about our favorite HumanXPokemon pairings? (Just kidding!)
OOH, ME! ME! AshxBayleef FOREVER!! (just kidding!) *is shot*