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what are charizards, blastoise and venasaurs best moves in fr. i need moves that are not just fire and not too low pp and attacks that dont miss.
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Starters aren't the best choices for Pokemon out there. A lot of others can do exactly the same thing, but better.
For competitive battling, the best one moveset out of that would be Venusaur.
Venusaur@Leftovers - Bold
EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
Leech Seed
Toxic
Sludge Bomb/Earthquake
Substitute/Protect
Normal LS+Toxic staller. It doesn't matter whether you pick Sludge Bomb or EQ. Most of the hurt will come from Toxic anyway.
Someone else can do the other two. I can't think of anything good for them.
For competitive battling, the best one moveset out of that would be Venusaur.
Venusaur@Leftovers - Bold
EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
Leech Seed
Toxic
Sludge Bomb/Earthquake
Substitute/Protect
Normal LS+Toxic staller. It doesn't matter whether you pick Sludge Bomb or EQ. Most of the hurt will come from Toxic anyway.
Someone else can do the other two. I can't think of anything good for them.
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Charizard[adamant]@leftovers/salac
EVs - hp,Att,Sp
flamethrower
sword dance/dragon dance
earthquake
HP flying/aerial ace
Thats the best ingame moveset for him.Belly drum is stupid.If not, go with -
flamethrower
dragon claw
sunny day
HP grass/flying/protect/substitute/aerial ace/overheat
Blastoise[bold/+Def,-Sp]@leftovers
EVs - hp,Def,SpDef,SpAtt
surf
ice beam
rest/focus punch/earthquake
rapid spin/yawn
yawn punching is cool ingame.
Venasaur[careful]@leftovers
EVs - hp,Att,SpDef,Def
sludge bomb
leech seed
sleep powder
earthquake
...
EVs - hp,Att,Sp
flamethrower
sword dance/dragon dance
earthquake
HP flying/aerial ace
Thats the best ingame moveset for him.Belly drum is stupid.If not, go with -
flamethrower
dragon claw
sunny day
HP grass/flying/protect/substitute/aerial ace/overheat
Blastoise[bold/+Def,-Sp]@leftovers
EVs - hp,Def,SpDef,SpAtt
surf
ice beam
rest/focus punch/earthquake
rapid spin/yawn
yawn punching is cool ingame.
Venasaur[careful]@leftovers
EVs - hp,Att,SpDef,Def
sludge bomb
leech seed
sleep powder
earthquake
...
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Custom HPs are difficult.
Venusaur @ Lefties
Calm/Bold/Adamant Nature
Razor Leaf
Leech Seed
Sludge Bomb
Sleep Powder
Charizard @ Leftovers
Timid/Adamant/Jolly
Flamethrower
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Rock Slide/Aerial Ace
Blastoise @ Leftovers
Bold/Calm Nature
Surf
Ice Beam
Rapid Spin
Rest/Yawn
Venusaur @ Lefties
Calm/Bold/Adamant Nature
Razor Leaf
Leech Seed
Sludge Bomb
Sleep Powder
Charizard @ Leftovers
Timid/Adamant/Jolly
Flamethrower
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Rock Slide/Aerial Ace
Blastoise @ Leftovers
Bold/Calm Nature
Surf
Ice Beam
Rapid Spin
Rest/Yawn
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Don't care for rapid spin for ingame purposes.
Yea thats why i gave alternate options for each HP that i suggested.
Yea thats why i gave alternate options for each HP that i suggested.
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I think u could try these
Charizard
Mild/lonely
flamethrower
AA/wing attack
EQ/rock slide
Swords dance
Blastoise
modest
surf
ice beam
protect
toxic/haze
venusaur
sleep powder
leech seed
rasor leaf
sludge bomb/toxic
Charizard
Mild/lonely
flamethrower
AA/wing attack
EQ/rock slide
Swords dance
Blastoise
modest
surf
ice beam
protect
toxic/haze
venusaur
sleep powder
leech seed
rasor leaf
sludge bomb/toxic
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Modest Blastoise isn't that good. You can always yawnpunch. SRD and Ice Demon got there before me.
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I use spec Zards over Phy ones. No need for an attack boosting move, which Zard does not have the defenses for.
Zard@Shell Bell
F/Thrower
Bite
D/Claw
EQ/Rock Slide/Wing Attack
Mild or Rash nature.
You may also replace the Shell Bell with a Salac/Peyata(I think this is SA) and replace my Phy move with Endure(Emerald only).
Venusaur and Blastoise, unlike Zard, lack the speed to sweep. Blastoise has the defenses and the SA to tank with a DEF boosting nature and a type trumping moveset, the kind often seen in sweepers.
Blastoise@Lefties
Surf
I/Beam
Substitute
Focus Punch
I consider Venusaur the worst of the Kanto sweepers because it lacks both the speed to sweep and the defenses to tank. I say a LS/Toxic staller.
Leech Seed
Toxic
Sub
Razor Leaf/Giga Drain
Zard@Shell Bell
F/Thrower
Bite
D/Claw
EQ/Rock Slide/Wing Attack
Mild or Rash nature.
You may also replace the Shell Bell with a Salac/Peyata(I think this is SA) and replace my Phy move with Endure(Emerald only).
Venusaur and Blastoise, unlike Zard, lack the speed to sweep. Blastoise has the defenses and the SA to tank with a DEF boosting nature and a type trumping moveset, the kind often seen in sweepers.
Blastoise@Lefties
Surf
I/Beam
Substitute
Focus Punch
I consider Venusaur the worst of the Kanto sweepers because it lacks both the speed to sweep and the defenses to tank. I say a LS/Toxic staller.
Leech Seed
Toxic
Sub
Razor Leaf/Giga Drain
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I use spec Zards over Phy ones. No need for an attack boosting move, which Zard does not have the defenses for.
Zard@Shell Bell
F/Thrower
Bite
D/Claw
EQ/Rock Slide/Wing Attack
Mild or Rash nature.
You may also replace the Shell Bell with a Salac/Peyata(I think this is SA) and replace my Phy move with Endure(Emerald only).
Venusaur and Blastoise, unlike Zard, lack the speed to sweep. Blastoise has the defenses and the SA to tank with a DEF boosting nature and a type trumping moveset, the kind often seen in sweepers.
Blastoise@Lefties
Surf
I/Beam
Substitute
Focus Punch
I consider Venusaur the worst of the Kanto sweepers because it lacks both the speed to sweep and the defenses to tank. I say a LS/Toxic staller.
Leech Seed
Toxic
Sub
Razor Leaf/Giga Drain
lol.
Leftovers is supremely better than shell bell.
secondly charizard has a great physical movepool while still being able to OHKO the most common physical wall - skarmory.Why not boost its Att and start to sweep?...Secondly it has a bad special movepool.As in - fire moves,HP,dragon claw and bite....
third pt Venusaur is THE best out of the kanto starters.Certainly Not the worst.It has amazing stalling power with both leech seed and sleep powder [which u forgot out of that moveset] It also gets a STABed sludge bomb on a decent attack.
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ChariZard:Blastburn,Fly,Flamethrower,Fireblast
Blastoise:Hydro Pump,Hydro cannon,waterpulse,blizzard
Venusaur:Razorleaf,solorbeam,frenzyplant,sythnenis
That what i thinks best!^_~
Blastoise:Hydro Pump,Hydro cannon,waterpulse,blizzard
Venusaur:Razorleaf,solorbeam,frenzyplant,sythnenis
That what i thinks best!^_~
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No element beams or any other 2 turn moves,blizzard accuracy bites.Water pulse isn't worth it either...neither is Hydro pump on this dude.Surf is nearly always better.Also u have too many moves of the same type in one set.
Furthermore venasaur has a 4x fighting resistance.
I consider Venusaur the worst of the Kanto sweepers because it lacks both the speed to sweep and the defenses to tank. I say a LS/Toxic staller.
Leech Seed
Toxic
Sub
Razor Leaf/Giga Drain
Furthermore venasaur has a 4x fighting resistance.
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soory i mean in stead of water palse i meant surf and all those move sets work for me^_~
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They would work ingame.Not against skilled players.Or half skilled players.Or...
Sorry derrre dude.
Sorry derrre dude.
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SRV said:Charizard - Aerial Ace, Flamethrower, Sunny Day, Body Slam
Blastoise - Surf, Rain Dance, Blizzard, Withdraw
Venusaur - Toxic, Leech Seed, Sludge Bomb, Rest
Those probably aren't the best movesets, but they aren't that bad.
venusaur is almost right... synthesis and sleeppowder instead or toxic and rest.
the other two suck sorry to say :\
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Officially the best post ever.Golden Groudon said:You just earned a place in my sig on serebii. ^_^
LOL.
Seriously, go with mine, SRV's or Ice Demon's MSes.
ChariZard:Blastburn,Fly,Flamethrower,Fireblast
Blastoise:Hydro Pump,Hydro cannon,waterpulse,blizzard
Venusaur:Razorleaf,solorbeam,frenzyplant,sythnenis
That what i thinks best!^_~
What you think is best really, REALLY sucks.
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i lol'edJohnny-Chan said:ChariZard:Blastburn,Fly,Flamethrower,Fireblast
Blastoise:Hydro Pump,Hydro cannon,waterpulse,blizzard
Venusaur:Razorleaf,solorbeam,frenzyplant,sythnenis
That what i thinks best!^_~
Charizard (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Belly Drum
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 76 HP / 94 Atk / 192 Def / 148 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Leech Seed/Swords Dance/Curse
- Sleep Powder
- Sludge Bomb
Blastoise (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Counter/Mirror Coat/Yawn
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Surf