Stuff about the TV show you find hard to believe.

Elite Trainer Raven said:
Ugh.

It's currently training in the care of someone who raises Fighting type Pok?mon. It's the same situation as Charizard. e_e
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Butterfry I guess is another one, but people don't realize they die after they mate. Squirtle is a firefighter and it has it's friends untill Satoshi goes bac, so he didn't forget that like people are saying.

EDIT:Why the heck did I quote you>? Has nothing to do with my post XD
 
Wow...

Considering that there's a thread on the next movie, I'm hope that Ash and friends (hopefully Misty as well) will be reunited with their old Pok?mon, since according to the thread Mew is the main character.

Age is not a factor in the show. Like many other shows, it involves a character who changes in many ways, but never age. (I really don't want to discuss this in detail; I've done so in older posts) Ash in this case has definately changed his attitude since the first time we saw him start on his journey I also noticed that he attitude's changed dramatically since Misty left, and almost reverted back when she made her appearence again...

And about Ash carrying Larvitar:
Comon, think of all the things that Ash's been through. If you've been traveling for 'years' and go through what Ash has gone through, you'd think he's gotten stronger. He's jumped outta holes with a fork and a spoon, able to stick himself on a net while being flung around by Team Rocket's jet propeled balloon, somehow didn't sustain any injuries after the incident at Lavender Town's tower, falling ridiculous heights...

I'm pretty sure that Larvitar's nothing to Ash after a few incidents like that. Besides, since it was a Larvitar who's had a neglectful childhood, I wouldn't be suprised if it were underweight.

I really don't see Ash being taller than when he started. When comparing his height to the others, he's never gotten taller than Brock's neck or Misty's eyes. Pikachu never gotten taller than half of Ash's shin.

Pok?mon is in a world devoid of our logic. Well, at least for now. I don't consider elemental attacks 'magical', just something that hasn't appeared in our world yet. I think that it is possible to do such things, just not right now.
 
dqle said:
And about Ash carrying Larvitar:
Comon, think of all the things that Ash's been through. If you've been traveling for 'years' and go through what Ash has gone through, you'd think he's gotten stronger. He's jumped outta holes with a fork and a spoon, able to stick himself on a net while being flung around by Team Rocket's jet propeled balloon, somehow didn't sustain any injuries after the incident at Lavender Town's tower, falling ridiculous heights...

I'm pretty sure that Larvitar's nothing to Ash after a few incidents like that. Besides, since it was a Larvitar who's had a neglectful childhood, I wouldn't be suprised if it were underweight.
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Not true. If Larvitar weighed as much as the games say it weighs, Satoshi would have been slouching while carrying it on his back. Proof is how he's slouching as Torkoal's leaping on his back in the ending theme "Glory Day." And we all know Torkoal ARE heavy since it was able to pull Satoshi and Haruka up a cliff without straining and Meowth could barely lift Torkoal without the aid of Musashi and Kojirou helping.

dqle said:
Pok?mon is in a world devoid of our logic. Well, at least for now. I don't consider elemental attacks 'magical', just something that hasn't appeared in our world yet. I think that it is possible to do such things, just not right now.
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Show me a break in science that proves it can be done and I'll give you $20. >_> It's not possible. Pok?mon defies the laws of physics plenty of times (such as Water Gun causing explosions out of nowhere).
 
The stuff I found hard to believe? The fact that Satoshi is still alive.
 
Seriously, he was already killed twice... And revived twice... Once through his spirit returning to his body, and again through a bunch of Pokemon crying...

Also another thing... I know this was the dub, and it was a joke, but compare it to real life for a second... What are the odds that Pikachu, who was supposed to be extremely tempermental, would actually choose to listen to a kid named Ash...
 
The thing is, Ash never slouched when carrying Larvitar. I really don't see your arguement there, Elite Trainer Raven. Oh, and noticed that I specifically specified that it's not possible yet. (if water comes in contact with certain chemicals or elements, it could cause explosions)

Yeah, it's hard for me to believe that Pikachu actually became Ash's buddy at first, but when you consider that a complete stranger is willing to put their life on the line for yours, I'd like to consider them the best of buddies.

Ash is a special kid. Comon, he's helped saved the world at least seven times already (one of which he doesn't remember). And only Ash and his friends (With exceptions for Raikou. You could only assume that Entei and Suicune have been found since Ash was around.) have ever come in contact or seen the Legendary Pok?mon. Knowing that Pok?mon know more than humans in certain fields, they possibly could know that Ash is a special trainer. Maybe the future of the world depends on him again...
 
dqle said:
The thing is, Ash never slouched when carrying Larvitar. I really don't see your arguement there, Elite Trainer Raven. Oh, and noticed that I specifically specified that it's not possible yet. (if water comes in contact with certain chemicals or elements, it could cause explosions)
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That was the point I was making. Larvitar's weight had no effect on him yet Torkoal's did. Thus proving that Larvitar's weight is no where near as much as the Pok?dex entries in the games indicate. And a pure straight on Water Gun to the ground couldn't possibly cause an explosion like you'd see from the Rocket Gang's balloon when it explodes. o_O

dqle said:
Ash is a special kid. Comon, he's helped saved the world at least seven times already (one of which he doesn't remember). And only Ash and his friends (With exceptions for Raikou. You could only assume that Entei and Suicune have been found since Ash was around.) have ever come in contact or seen the Legendary Pok?mon.
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Not exactly true. The movies are seperate stories, so they don't count towards the TV series. He and his friends aren't the only ones to come in contact with the Legendaries. Entei for example. We have a kid setting up traps to locate it so he can battle it. The group had no idea what an Entei was (proving that the movies don't exactly connect to series) nor where they the first to come in contact with it. Eusine's also been searching for Suicune and trying to capture it. Both trainers would have had to have known something about them before attempting such a feat. Plus considering Ho-Oh created them long ago and people knew about them, there's no way that Satoshi-tachi could have been the first.
 
Saving the world doesn't make you strong you know. If the world stoped littering, we have saved it, but we havn't gotten any stronger by doings so... And falling in holes constantly would most likely hurt you rather than make you and make you weaker. The show is just devoid of some logic, like one of you said yourself.

Anyways, maybe it was the fact that Larvitar was a baby, it was only like, 5 days old so maybe it hadn't gained any of its total weight yet, sort of like a baby IRL.
 
I agree. And besides, Torkoal is larger than Larvitar and actually fell on Ash (Don't worry I saw Glory Days too...about 10 times)
Think about this: Ash picked up Larvitar (who probably was a baby, so maybe it was only 50 km or something) sure it might not have been the lightest thing in the world, maybe he had to strain a little bit, but he was in control over the weight. But when a Torkoal just lands on you and you're not in control over it, of course it'd knock you off balance O.o
 
Thing is that weight's never really played a part unless you'd really notice it. Something of the likes of Snorlax or Golem is of course gonna weigh alot.
 
Well of course :P BTW don't take the above post against you; I didn't want to put a damper on your find, just to put my insight into it ^^
Here's something that's bothered me: Ash's naiveness. May is younger than Ash, but in the episode 318: Love at first Flight, May seems to be more mature than him.
Poor Ash, maybe so long training destroyed his hormones.
 
Well the boy does have bigger priorities on his list. Finding love ain't one of 'em. Everyone's different when it comes to that. :P
 
True, true, I guess.
Hmm...another thing that bugs me..
Wow, how did I overlook this?
I hate the writers!!! The Directer of Pokemon fired the previous writers and sent in these weirdos! Why can't Ash die again-and why is the dialauge so cheap, when it used to be so original?
And what's up with the animation? It almost looks like barf! Why can't they go back to the animation where they get the spotlight, and the snow falls on them, or the wacky backgrounds during an embarressing moment, or the big eyes, or the giant mouths or large heads when their mad (Primape steals Ash's hat, mean guy picks on Brock and Misty's Gyms) Instead, I think the most weird thing that's happened is when Jessie got her hair in a mess-but that's nothing compared to what Scyther did in the Orange Islands!
BRING BACK THE GOOD WRITERS AND ARTISTS!
Ok, ok. Ranting is done now. Happy again! :D
 
Umm... Right...

Well, the series has changes quite a lot since the first episodes. I think that they've stepped away from some traditional anime symbolism just for the younger kids, although I personally don't see the point.

If you're a true Pok?mon fan, don't kill the new people (if they are the new writers/artists.) They're only doing what they think is right.

About Larvitar:
I forgot to tell you that it's a baby. Of course it won't weigh like the average Larvitar from the start. (50 kilometers, Water Pokemon Master???)

About Random Explosions:
Actually, maybe the water reached the part that lifts the balloon, causes a rapid temperature change, causing the casing to rupture, then the fuel goes everywhere inside the balloon, and somehow the fire still sparks the fuel while inside the balloon, popping it like a bomb.

About the legendaries:
Hey, I didn't say that Ash was the first to see them. Although Eusine and the kid may have had visual confermation of Suicune and Entei, repecfully, the show never said that they've ever had actual confrontation with them, I think. When Ash was around, those two were first confronted by Ash. (Entei was staring at Ash when it appeared, I believe)
*The movies, especially the first one, must have been intertwined with the show. The first one is obvious. The only thing that I can think of is the Pok?mon that Ash and friends are bringing with them. With that in mind, you could attempt to figure out when the movies occured, although Ash and friends never talk about the show in the movie and vice versa.

Don't you guys get me started on Ash's love life because... He doesn't have one! If I can remember correctly, he's never had an actual girlfriend that he admits to. He only loves his mom like a child should to a parent. Since he's never been to school since turning 10, learning the concept of love will be quite hard for him, unless somebody foolishly explains it to him. Because of this, all of us can point and laugh at many hints thrown at him and he's still clueless as ever, keeping the show running. If he does know, however, I think the show would change a little too much.
 
The storyboard hasn't really changed all that much. It just seems to be growing up slowly with the generation it was geared toward in Japan, that's all. I think when that generation gets older, the show will start to get more serious.
 
dqle said:
About Random Explosions:
Actually, maybe the water reached the part that lifts the balloon, causes a rapid temperature change, causing the casing to rupture, then the fuel goes everywhere inside the balloon, and somehow the fire still sparks the fuel while inside the balloon, popping it like a bomb.
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Not according to the Clampearl episode where Water Gun was used on the ground, no where near a hot air balloon and caused a random explosion. >_>
 
Kilometers? Whoops ;^_^;
I see, the show has defenintly 'matured' since the first season. I just miss the old humor ^_^
 
Well, like I said before, if there's a random deposit of reactive chemicals on that spot there, there's bound to be an explosion!

Besides, I haven't seen that episode yet since I'm an American with dial-up...
 
Something that's hard to believe... hard to believe...

Well, it took me a while to get over the fact that Tate (one of the Mossdeep City Gym Leaders) is male.

My life was ruined when I saw the episode before the Mossdeep Gym Battle...and yet I enjoyed it.
 
Something hard to believe? It's hard to believe that Team Rocket can be electrocuted and thrown off into the distance hundreds of times and LIVE.
 
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