TCG Daily Chit Chat

I couldn't go to a prerelease. But hey...not long until Guidpact comes out anyway.
 
Frostweaver said:
What the heck La Jinn support cards? O_O;

Wind support is always good, but then have to be careful about Ancient Lamp's effect. Most of the time you will only activate the effect once, and it needs 2 monsters on the opponent's side of the field both faceup at least. Ah more cards to abuse in flip flop control decks. So much for Cyber Dragon-Don Zaloog classical attack-tag-team now =3
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Apparently yes.

Ancient Lamp may give La Jinn a little bit more play. It is better off by it?s self though. If it was level 2 instead of 3. It would have extremely gained play in a Nepthys deck. Searchable by Apprentice Magician and can redirect the attack of a D.D Assailant or D.D Warrior Lady to protect the Phoenix would have made it a splashable card.

The sneak peak is on February 18-19. Then it will be released in the next copy of Shonen Jump about 2 months later. So the playability of this card seems to depend on the April ban list.

Mystic said:
Lamp sounds similar to the card's effect from the show. Only it?s not a spell card and La Jinn can be destroyed. I think they should've released this in the second Kaiba deck, but that?s my option.
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True on that fact. It would have been better released that way and Shrink as the promo. Due to the fact it was in the Kaiba deck. Since the last promo was 2 monsters, 2 traps, so it should have been 2 spells. But it?s a monster. ;-;

But I?m not sure if I should believe UDE on this.
 
Kyouraku said:
Apparently yes.

Ancient Lamp may give La Jinn a little bit more play. It is better off by it?s self though. If it was level 2 instead of 3. It would have extremely gained play in a Nepthys deck. Searchable by Apprentice Magician and can redirect the attack of a D.D Assailant or D.D Warrior Lady to protect the Phoenix would have made it a splashable card.

The sneak peak is on February 18-19. Then it will be released in the next copy of Shonen Jump about 2 months later. So the playability of this card seems to depend on the April ban list.
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Dude Ancient Lamp is awesome. I'm actually going to make a deck around it.

Shrink is comming out in a set, not a sneek peak. It changed from what Zai said from what I heard.
 
Mullet said:
Dude Ancient Lamp is awesome. I'm actually going to make a deck around it.

Shrink is comming out in a set, not a sneek peak. It changed from what Zai said from what I heard.
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Shrink is a card from the Kaiba Character deck. But those aren't being made anymore.


Shrink is not a promo and the Sneak Peak cards were promos. Many are not sure of the card. I heard it from a UDE member that it may be the Lamp though. Like Like I said. Many are not sure. Like the hearing of Shrink.

Then agian. UDE is tricky sometimes.
 
My imformation was wrong. I got it from Pojo.

Is anyone going to any events?
 
YuGiOH! OCG Ban list Update March~

YuGiOh! OCG [V Jump]
Restricted and Ban list
Effective : March 1,2006

Banned/Cannot be used in deck:

- Winged Dragon of Ra
- Obelisk the Tormentor
- Osiris the Sky Dragon
- Victory Dragon [NEW!]
- Chaos Emperor Dragon -Envoy of End-
- Black Luster Soldier -Envoy of Beginning-
- Sinister Serpent
- Witch of the Black Forest
- Cyber Jar [NEW!]
- Makyura the Destroyer
- Tribe-Infecting Virus [NEW!
- Fiber Jar
- Magical Scientist
- Yata-Garasu
- Mirage of Nightmares
- Delinquent Duo
- Painful Choice
- Forceful Sentry
- Pot of Greed [NEW!]
- Change of Heart
- Raigeki
- Monster Reborn
- Eruma - Butterfly Dagger-
- Harpy's Feather Duster
- Dark Hole [NEW!]
- Imperial Order
- Time Seal [NEW!]
- Ring of Destruction
- Last Turn! [NEW!]

Restricted/Allowed up to 1 per deck:
- D.D. Warrior Lady
- Injection Fairy Lily
- Sangan
- Dark Magician of Chaos
- Thousand Eyes Restrict
- Protector of the Sanctuary
- Jinzo
- Dandelion [NEW!]
- Tsukuyomi
- D.D. Assailant [NEW!]
- Twin-Headed Behemoth
- Night Assailant
- Exiled Force
- Sacred Phoneix of the Nepthysis
- Exodia the Forbidden One
- Left Arm of the Forbidden One
- Left Leg of the Forbidden One
- Right Arm of the Forbidden One
- Right Leg of the Forbidden One
- Marshmellon
- Breaker the Magical Warrior
- Morphing Jar
- Mask of Darkness [NEW!]
- Frog of the Yomi River [NEW!]
- Royal Shrine [NEW!]
- Confiscation
- Heavy Storm
- Mystical Space Typhoon
- Scapegoat
- United we Stand
- Book of Moon
- Card Destruction
- Graceful Charity [NEW!]
- Pot of Avarice [NEW!]
- Premature Burial
- Swords of Revealing Light
- Mage Power
- Magic Excavation Stone [NEW!]
- Metamorphosis
- Last Will [NEW!]
- Lightning Vortex
- Limiter Removal
- Level Limit B [NEW!]
- Torrential Tribute
- Deck Devastation Virus of Death
- Mirror Force
- Ceasefire
- Drop Off [NEW!]
- Magic Cylinder
- Call of Haunted
- Aphostle Greed

Semi Restricted/Allowed up to 2 per deck:

- Manticore of Darkness
- Magician of Faith [NEW!]
- Reflect Bounder [NEW!]
- Apprentice Magician [NEW!]
- Creature Swap
- Reinforcement of the Army
- Upstart Goblin
- Emergency Provisions
- Nobleman of Crossout
- Gravity Bind
- Good Goblin Housekeeping
- Deck Devastion Virus of Magic [NEW!]

Off the List:

- Abyss Soldier
 
I'm more surprised about Time Seal... O_o; And I thought that at least froggie can be at 2 and not 1...
 
Their plan. To kill Victory Dragon OTK's. Just banning the main card would have would just done it alone."Victory Dragon". It's just like last format with Goat Control. They will never learn.(Konami and UDE)

They killed just about every tier 1 exepct Gadets.

It seems they want to kill every OTK but they are not really doing a good job at it. They are just really looking at other types that are tier 1 or 2. Frog Control, Mearchant Pot Trubo, Gadets, etc. That is always a problem with the ban list.

The semi restriction list is what I agree with the most, but they should have really put more focous on the restriction list. Pot of Avarice never deserves a restriction to 1. Mabye but 2 but 1 is overkill. It is needed for MPT but it would have maye been better to just put a restriction on The Tricky or Chaos Sorceor. Frog Contol saw this comming by a long shot. >__>

Not everyone outside of the OCG be sure of the meta. But the banlist seems to sum it up.

I like the list, but a bit more though into it instead of just killing tier 1.
 
Like what I've said before... whenever Konami declares war on a certain deck type, anything with the slightest relationship with that deck will be completely destroyed. They'll rather kill first, and analyze later.

For every deck that *deserves* to be killed, 5 other innocent tier 3 decks die along with it. If Victory Dragon is gone already, is there a need to ban Time Seal as well? Poor Wave Motion Cannon-OTK has sacrificed itself for no apparent reason now...

=/
 
When you kill a main source of power, kill the backup because they "may" come and take their place.

That quote relates to the ban list. Konami/UDE
 
Let's use our good friend Goat Control. If goat, TER and Tsukuyomi are down to one, what can metamorphsis and magician of faith do alone? They can at most pull one lockdown off, and two if they got the recursion for the TER afterward, but that's severely weakening Goat Control already. Surely they could have let Magician of Faith lives to support Phoenix/Dark Magician, and let Metamorphsis be off with Cyber-Balter deck...
 
Frostweaver said:
Let's use our good friend Goat Control. If goat, TER and Tsukuyomi are down to one, what can metamorphsis and magician of faith do alone? They can at most pull one lockdown off, and two if they got the recursion for the TER afterward, but that's severely weakening Goat Control already. Surely they could have let Magician of Faith lives to support Phoenix/Dark Magician, and let Metamorphsis be off with Cyber-Balter deck...
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That is the best example of it. What would anyone like to be banned/unbanned or restricted on the list? >O
 
With only a month left, it's not unreasonable to start guessing...



I. Forbidden Cards

You cannot use these cards in your Deck, Fusion Deck or Side Deck.

Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
Butterfly Dagger - Elma
Change of Heart
Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End
Cyber End Dragon
Dark Hole
Delinquent Duo
Fiber Jar
Graceful Charity
Harpie's Feather Duster
Imperial Order
Magical Scientist
Makyura the Destructor
Mirage of Nightmare
Monster Reborn
Painful Choice
Pot of Greed
Raigeki
Ring of Destruction
Sinister Serpent
The Forceful Sentry
Yata-Garasu

NEW! - Cyber End Dragon, Dark Hole

II. Limited Cards

You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck, Fusion Deck & Side Deck combined.

Book of Moon
Book of Taiyou
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Call of the Haunted
Card Destruction
Ceasefire
Confiscation
Cyber Dragon
Cyber Jar
D. D. Assailant
D. D. Warrior Lady
Dark Magician of Chaos
Deck Devastation Virus
Exchange of the Spirit
Exodia the Forbidden One
Heavy Storm
Injection Fairy Lily
Jinzo
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Lightning Vortex
Mage Power
Magic Cylinder
Mirror Force
Morphing Jar
Mystical Space Typhoon
Night Assailant
Nobleman of Crossout
Premature Burial
Protector of the Sanctuary
Reinforcement of the Army
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys
Sangan
Snatch Steal
Swords of Revealing Light
Thousand-Eyes Restrict
Tribe Infecting Virus
Torrential Tribute
Treeborn Frog
Tsukuyomi
United We Stand
Witch of the Black Forest

NEW- Cyber Dragon, D. D. Assailant, Mirror Force, Reinforcement of the Army, Treeborn Frog, Tribe Infecting Virus, Witch of the Black Forest

III. Semi-Limited Cards

You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck, Fusion Deck & Side Deck combined.


Creature Swap
Exiled Force
Good Goblin Housekeeping
Gravity Bind
Last Turn
Level Limit - Area B
Magician of Faith
Manticore of Darkness
Reinforcement of the Army
Reckless Greed
Scapegoat
Smashing Ground
Spirit Reaper
Upstart Goblin
Twin Headed Behemoth

NEW!- Exiled Force, Magician of Faith, Reckless Greed, Scapegoat, Spirit Reaper, Smashing Ground, Twin Headed Behemoth

NEW! - The following cards are no longer Semi-Limited: Abyss Soldier, Emergency Provision, Limiter Removal, Reflect Bounder



I'll go over explanations later~
 
not getting the Cyber End Dragon stuff...it's like the BEUD with Dragon's rage >>
is it just cuz the Cyber Dragons are so easy to summon under certain cercumstances?...either way why ban Cyber end when you can only use one?...nvm actually, figured it out...those fusion subs >>...wait but then the other 2 would...ah meh...these guys are being way too picky...

ah well, Witch fans might be happy
 
CED is just that I have to choose between either cyber stein being banned, CED being banned or machine decks remain screwed over (except Cyber Dragon and Ancient Gear deck) due to the lack of limiter removal =/ Decks such as VWXYZ (or just XYZ without the VW) really needs the limiter removal, and limiter removal is only restricted because they're afraid of Cyber Stein CED megamorph and/or limiter removal all together...

I couldn't think of a way to justify the removal of limiter removal from limited except to just ban the thing =/ Cyber End and Cyber Twin really needs "this card can only be fusion summoned" then everyone would be happy, including BEUD (because it won't be deemed useless anymore by Cyber Stein, who'll always prefer CED over BEUD.)
 
......0_o...Reflect Bounder & Limiter Removal unlimited!!??????

NEVER!!!!

Seriously, this is a lousy list...Tribe back...? Mirror Force? Unh-uh. NEVER.

Worst of all, WITCH IS NEVER COMING BACK!!!!! As much as I hate to admit it, it's way too powerful.
 
We have Waboku and Kuriboh to negate the Cyber End Dragon OTK.

Frosty: I told my opinion to you in a MSN convo which was 3 hours >_>

Ichapokemr:Reflect Bounder is a bit risky in some ways.

I made a banlist somewhere, I just need to find it.
 
How's Mirror Force more powerful than Torrential Tribute in anyway that one is banned yet the other isn't? You can force activate your own Torrential Tribute by summoning a Sangan, then wipe all of their field clear. Torrential can destroy monsters upon summoning. It is more flexible than Mirror Force because it can be activated outside of battle phase. Mirror Force has the advantage that it only destroys opponents' monsters, but it is much easier to be disarmed in comparison to Torrential Tribute. Either both are gone, or both are limited to 1, and people probably want both of them to stay.

Bounder is an automatic -1 in card advantage, and a -1 for field presense too. Reaper can run into him and not die, basically using 1500 LP to clear your monster. If it's a tomato, then it's even worse... ram into bounder to receive damage, clear your field, call out the don to take out your hand next time. You see how this thing is pretty flawed? Back then there's no other light monster so it's relatively powerful. Now that we got some options for light food that doesn't say "-1 me or more at the cost of LP!" we can really bring him back.

How's Tribe that strong if there's no serpent to abuse it? It's a constant -1 if you want to use the effect, and we don't use Lightning Vortex for a reason... Tribe is basically a weakened Lightning Vortex that can be reused and also contribute to field presense. As long as there's no infinite fuel, tribe should stay.

Witch can search for a lot, but most of the time it'll be searching for tribute monsters, which really need some help. No one plays tribute because "OH MY GOODNESS THAT'S ANOTHER -1" well we can solve this problem if we have more powerful tribute food, like sangan and witch. If we succeed in getting rid of the broken stuff so witch can't search for them and forces witch to search for the proper stuff, then witch isn't that bad at all.
 
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