Teenage Pregnancy

Dawson said:
You don't need to eat junk food. You don't needto have a computer. You don't need to own expensive clothes. You don't need a mobile phone. You don't need most things in your life.

But that's completely irrelevant. The human race is advanced enough to not have to spend their life dedicated to making sure they get what they need to survive, like animals do. People act on what gives them pleasure and makes them happy, or will make them happy. Yeah, we don't need to have sex, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to.

Your comment was rather narrow minded. What about people that don't want to get married? Are they supposed to be eternal virgins? Not everybody has religious beliefs like that, so why should they not be able to have sex if it's what they wish to do?

Some people need to face reality. It's 2008, and sex is as much a part of modern youth culture as anything else. We're all educated at school from a relatively early age about the ins and outs, no pun intended, of sex, and all the risks involved. We all know about contraception, we all know about STDs and the risk of pregnancy involved in having unprotected sex. So people have enough knowledge about it to be able to decide whether or not they want to have sex, and can then act accordingly.

There's only one problem with that, though. People are stupid. You can give them all the information in the world, but you can't make them intelligent or sensible. So if they choose to be idiotic enough to risk the consequences of unprotected sex, more fool them.

I don't see anything wrong with teenage sex. Afterall, if there was a problem with it, the age of consent would be 20+, would it not? But it's 16 here, and a lot of other places, and I think 18 is the highest. Sex is just as much about the pleasure and passion of being with someone you're attracted to as it is about symbolising your love to a spouse. If it wasn't, sex wouldn't have been made so pleasurable.

I love this kind of topic coming up on PC, since the majority of people, who are usually under the age of 15, always respond in the same way. It's funny how sheltered a life a lot of members here have.
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Um I think we do need to have sex, if we didnt then our species would dies off. We only need to have sex to repopulate, but you dont need to have sex for the hell of it
 
He meant on an individual level we don't have to have sex, 50% of the human population could go their entire lives without sex and overal as a species we wouldn't be hurt very much
 
Dawson said:
I love this kind of topic coming up on PC, since the majority of people, who are usually under the age of 15, always respond in the same way. It's funny how sheltered a life a lot of members here have.
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I find it funny how much you can judge the lives of people you never met. If you feel that way, then join an older forum.

This is about teenage PREGNANCY, not teenage SEX. There is a huge difference.
 
Help? Would you mind explaining that please?
 
We can't possibly be that overcrowded. Right?
 
Well, i'm really not against it. If teenagers get pregnant, it was their own mistake. Protection should always be used of course.

Growing up, i knew 4 female friends who got pregnant. All but one chose to have their babies. The other friend got an abortion, and they moved away because the parents did not want the daughter to get pregnant again.

Sadly, one friend had a miscarriage. It was very sad for all of us.
 
Dawson said:
I love this kind of topic coming up on PC, since the majority of people, who are usually under the age of 15, always respond in the same way. It's funny how sheltered a life a lot of members here have.
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Golly-gee my fragile innocence has been completely shattered by this topic. Ive been ever so protected from the real world, I have no idea whats going on! Teenage wha? Oh the thought of leaving my sheltered home to the big and scary world -_-;
Just in case you didnt cath that it was sarcasm.
You know this whole pregnancy and abortion topic is a tough one. Just think, we could have aborted someone who could find a cure for AIDS, HIV, and Cancer. But then again we could have aborted the next Hitler.
Which reminds me. Hitlers mother had an unplanned pregnancy and was going to abort hitler, but at the last moment she decided not to. She felt that she was murdering a human...its just so damn ironic. She literally gave birth to WWII
 
Oh. no. No she didn't. You cannot blame her for his actions. I should make a thread about this very thing.
 
sims796 said:
Oh. no. No she didn't. You cannot blame her for his actions. I should make a thread about this very thing.
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I dont blame her, I just find it so ironic. The fact that she felt bad for killing a human, and yet by letting him live so many were killed.
 
Xairmo said:
Golly-gee my fragile innocence has been completely shattered by this topic. Ive been ever so protected from the real world, I have no idea whats going on! Teenage wha? Oh the thought of leaving my sheltered home to the big and scary world -_-;
Just in case you didnt cath that it was sarcasm.
You know this whole pregnancy and abortion topic is a tough one. Just think, we could have aborted someone who could find a cure for AIDS, HIV, and Cancer. But then again we could have aborted the next Hitler.
Which reminds me. Hitlers mother had an unplanned pregnancy and was going to abort hitler, but at the last moment she decided not to. She felt that she was murdering a human...its just so damn ironic. She literally gave birth to WWII
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Yeah, that is kinda true. I mean:
If you knew a woman who was pregnant, who had 8 kids already, three who were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded, and she had syphilis; would you recommend that she have an abortion?
If you answered yes to that question, you just got rid of Beethoven; however, what we have never had we can't miss. I think that woman's quality of life comes before whether or not her kid is the next Mozart. She was just lucky her son wasn't born like the other kids.

I don't know what I would do if I got pregnant accidentally. But I know one thing's for sure: I'd do everything I can to reduce the chances of it happening, and I think everyone else should do the same. These things happen, you know? Sometimes it's just bad luck and people need to take that into consideration. Everyone has the right to have sex with the person they love. But sometimes people know what they're doing, they use protection and they're just unlucky. Other people don't know what they're doing, they don't use protection and they have to learn from their mistakes.

My friend has a baby and she used protection. She knew she was pregnant really early and she tried to have an abortion (obviously didn't work for some reason). She thought she'd got rid of it, so she just carried on with her normal life: she drank alcohol, took antibiotics, dyed her hair... then she found out she was a few months pregnant. I know she wished she wasn't and it has changed her life completely, but her family and her boyfriend helped her through it and now that she's got her baby, she loves him and wouldn't get rid of him for the world. In addition, she's doing well with her education and plans to do a maths degree. She's a respectable person; no-one should look down on her just because she had a baby at 17.
 
Teenage pregnancy: the thing that makes me glad I'm queer.

In short, it sucks. Kids have kids and they can't take care of them.

Abortion sucks. It should be legal for health reasons; if it was illegal, people would still be having abortions anyway, and it would be unsafe, putting the mother in danger.

It's your choice whether or not you have the baby, and no one should ever take your right to choose away. It's your body.

A couple of cells doesn't constitute a baby. It constitutes a couple of cells.

Quoting Bill Hicks, "You're not a human until you're in my phone book."
 
I don't really care if teenagers have sex. It's not my problem. xD I don't like teenage pregnancy though. I knew a girl in my old school who was in 7th grade and was pregnant with twins. I know she survived (somehow...) and that she was in labor for 20-something hours. Another girl I know, 13, had a kid just before Christmas (the father was 23). Those two girls gave their babies up. I know another girl that had an abortion. Stuff like that I do not agree with. Now, on the other hand, my 18 year old cousin is pregnant but she is taking responsibility. She is getting married and keeping the baby. That I have no problem with. Anyone sexually active under the age of 18 or so should be on some type of birth control and always use protection. The end.
 
[sugarPUNK!] said:
Teenage pregnancy: the thing that makes me glad I'm queer.

In short, it sucks. Kids have kids and they can't take care of them.

Abortion sucks. It should be legal for health reasons; if it was illegal, people would still be having abortions anyway, and it would be unsafe, putting the mother in danger.

It's your choice whether or not you have the baby, and no one should ever take your right to choose away. It's your body.

A couple of cells doesn't constitute a baby. It constitutes a couple of cells.

Quoting Bill Hicks, "You're not a human until you're in my phone book."
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Anen to the bold brother, amen XD
 
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I'm a full supporter of allowing human beings to do whatever they please with their own bodies. I don't think any authority has any right to tell me what to do with my body. It's like the anti-sodomy laws that prevented adult homosexuals from engaging in whatever they pleased in their own homes. It's not right and no law should interfere. The same goes for pregnant teenagers. Despite the fact that they're teenagers, they still possess a conscience, the ability to make decisions, and for the most part, a functioning brain. So if they feel it's what they want to do, let them do it. How does it affect you? Unless it's your kid, butt out. It's that simple.

And I also agree with the whole "I'm-happy-I'm-gay-so-no-pregnancy-for-me-ever."
 
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Xairmo said:
Um I think we do need to have sex, if we didnt then our species would dies off. We only need to have sex to repopulate, but you dont need to have sex for the hell of it
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What he was trying to say, I believe, is that sex gives people pleasure, so why shouldn't we?
 
I thought this thread died.

Loquacity said:
I'm a full supporter of allowing human beings to do whatever they please with their own bodies. I don't think any authority has any right to tell me what to do with my body. It's like the anti-sodomy laws that prevented adult homosexuals from engaging in whatever they pleased in their own homes. It's not right and no law should interfere. The same goes for pregnant teenagers. Despite the fact that they're teenagers, they still possess a conscience, the ability to make decisions, and for the most part, a functioning brain. So if they feel it's what they want to do, let them do it. How does it affect you? Unless it's your kid, butt out. It's that simple.

And I also agree with the whole "I'm-happy-I'm-gay-so-no-pregnancy-for-me-ever."
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It's not that simple at all. Along with affecting the family, it affects the child. It isn't as simple as "it's my body, I wanna have a baby". You MUST be able to handle the responsibility. This affects the kid, who will grow up in my society. He might be the next killer, mad at the way he was bought up. That's looking at it from a strained view, I admit.

As a kid brother whose nephews & nices were made by teenagers, I can tell you that it isn't easy raising a kid when you aren't ready. It affected me directly, since now the attention had to be divided amonst the new kids. Meaning it was a tad bit harder to go about school, and worst of all, actually paying for things. Not to mention the sheer amount of time I had to sacrifive to watch the lil' brats. I love em. But all kids are brats to me.

And, as said, it isn't as simple as "If it's not your kid, butt out", as the kid is the innocent party. This is off topic, but ever since that seven year old girl who was killed (I can't remember her name, the trail is still going on), it showed how we get involed with kids that aren't ours.

If you are able to handle it, & you are in that place, then maybe. But just because you have the right, doesn't mean you can execute it on a whim. Child raising is a serious thing, not something to do because you want to on the spot. & I'm sure the child will appreciate it more if the parent was older, which is the case for most children, not that they are sad with how they were bought up.
 
Simply put, age doesn't matter when getting pregnant. It's more of an individual person's mentaility that matters. If you're not ready for pregnancy, hold off on having unprotected sex until you're willing to take the risk. Sex is something that should be thought out beforehand, and not just had impulsively. If a woman has sex without thinking about the possibly outcome it may have beforehand and gets pregnant, I don't have sympathy for her. Someone who just acts up on impulse, then finds out a few weeks later that she's pregnant should be able to accept the resposibility of carring a baby. Whether protection is used or not, that risk is still there =/

On the subject of abortion, without getting too deep into my general thoughts on it, I'm gonna have to side against it in most cases. It should still be an option early into a pregnancy if a woman is raped, or if the baby is concieved through incest, but it just sickens me when teenage mothers who have unprotected sex think that they can just brush it off by having an abortion. Again, my opinion on this subject is very up-in-the-air, but in any circumstance, once a developing human fetus is noticable in a woman's womb (Not just cells, but once the embryo begins to take shape), then I no longer view that as part of the "woman's body" and a living, growing organism on it's own, relying off the mother for nurturing. If a woman decides to go out and have one done that late into pregnancy then that, i believe, is murder.

Just my thoughts...
 
sims796 said:
Now of course, it goes to the girl's influences in life. What she's been shown, what she takes in. As well as peer pressure, & all that jazz. But in the core, in it's prime, the only one to blame for this are the parents themselves.

Sure, plenty of teens had all the options presented to them. They know the consequences by now. I won't speak for the teens that don't, as they all should, but I can speak for those who do. They know full well the risk of having sex. They know thhe many dangers, yet they choose to ignore it. They decide for THEMSELVES to go about it.

There is only so much we can say "teen sex is going to happen". Regardless, they have the responsibilty to make sure they take all necessary precautions.

Not having enough self control is not a viable excuse. You can't tell your child that (s)he doesn't have a good life because (s)he was born from me not having self control. There is a level of personal responsibility that goes with it.

And a level of understanding as well.



This is what I mean by responsibility. It's not something to take lightly. That is a VERY adult decision, aand like all adult decision, there are consequences.

As for the bolded part, that also hit me. Premarital sex aside, they must learn that it's not something to do on a whim. As said, it's a grown-up (I don't say grown-up much anymore) choice, and shouldn't be used for rebelion, as the child will suffer in the long run.

Sex isn't a game. It's not something to take so lightly. It has serious consequences, that must be considered. I'm NOT saying it's wrong, but it IS wrong to do it on a whim.

However, you got one thing straight...

If you ARE gonna do it, make sure you're safe.
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This fits perfectly with Warheart's statement, without abortion.
 
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