TERRA#493's Team (NU/UU/BL)

[TERRA#493]

I think its funny to tell you my team =D
This 6 soldiers works fine until now, but an rating of other experts derogates not ;)
I list the EVs in thos order HP / ATK / DEF / SPE / SPATK / SPD.
Of course each Pokemon is benefited with right DVs.

Froslass (Ice/Ghost)
0 / 0 / 0 / 252 / 252 / 0
Item: Focus Sash
Moves: Ice Beam / Destiny Bond / Taunt / Spikes
Note: Froslass is for me one of the best leads in whole metagame. A part of my tactic of my team is trying to lay out as much of Spikes, Toxik Spikes and Stealth Rock, as i can. Froslass makes the beginning with Spikes and should take at least 1 foe out with Destiny Bond. Taunt is always useful. Ice Beam as single attack-move, which can take down Dragon- and Grass-types.

Shiftry (Grass/Dark)
0 / 252 / 0 / 252 / 0 / 0
Item: Focus Sash
Moves: Seed Bomb / Sucker Punch / Brick Breack / Swords Dance
Note: Destroys because of pure surprise! When i activated with Ambipom the sunlight, most opponent think, my Shiftry is an special sweeper and expect Solar Beam. But instead of that, i go for Swords Dance and can then sweep with two powerful STABs called Seed Bomb and Sucker Punch. Brick Break is against Steel-types who resist both STABs.


Typhlosion (Fire)
0 / 0 / 0 / 252 / 252 / 0
Item: Expert Belt
Moves: Eruption / Solarbeam / Hidden Power Rock / Flamethrower
Note: Typhlosion is my favourite Fire-type and thats why he get the 3rd slot in my team. This set lives from the support of Ambipom's sunlight as well as Shiftry. Eruption in sunlight is a killer, Solarbeam gives great type coverage. And now you will possibly wonder, why such an rare Hidden Power. Look: Hidden Power Rock is effective against Fire-types AND Altaria, both are forces, which can wall easily Typhlosion otherwise. Thats the genius in this part. Flamethrower, when Eruption has no more power and it works great when Blaze is activated.

??? Suggest me a Pokemon (i use aslong Azumarill, but an Water-Type [expecting Golduck because of his ability] is not an good choice in Teams with Sunny Day) ???


Ambipom (Normal)
0 / 252 / 0 / 252 / 0 / 0
Item: Heat Rock
Moves: Fake Out / Double Hit / *Payback / Sunny Day
Note: Out of norm Ambipom. Ambipom can sweep pretty well with his from Technician and STAB supported Fake Out and Double Hit. But Payback against Ghost-types or Brick Breack against Steel-Types? I tend to Payback, not only because its supported by Technician, no, but even when Brick Break is effective against Steel-types, Ambipom has not the ATK to take down Steel-Types with ther gigantic defenses. In contrast, Payback takes down most Ghost-types with her frail defenses. Sunny Day makes this Ambipom what it is. An great team supporter which should always get the chance to use Sunny Day, because of his great speed. With Heat Rock Sunny Day is activated for 8, instead of 5 turns, too.


Nidoking / Nidoqueen (Poison/Ground)
Nidoking: 0 / 0 / 0 / 252 / 252 / 0 ; Nidoqueen: 252 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 252
Item: Nidoking: Life Orb ; Nidoqueen: Leftovers
Moves: Nidoking: Earth Power / Shadow Ball / Toxik Spikes / Stealth Rock
Moves: Nidoqueen: Eartquake / Roar / Toxik Spikes / Stealth Rock
Note: Okay, listen: A part of my tactic of my team is trying to lay out as much of Spikes, Toxik Spikes and Stealth Rock, as i can. Nidoqueen / Nidoking are able to learn two of this moves. Usually Nidoqueen is better for this job, but i prefer offensive Pokemon, and thats why i tend to Nidoking. And honestly: Nidoking can more cause than an defensive, close Nidoqueen. Anyway, Nidoking sweeps fine with Earth Power and Shadow Ball. Why not physical Nidoking? Because Earth Power does more on Steels than Earthquake, because of her worse special defense. Shadow Ball for type coverage. Nidoqueen can do some damage with Earthquake on some foes, phazing with Roar.





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[J-Rad]

Typhlosion wants SubBlazePetya or Scarf Eruption, and is a very potent threat when used right in UUs and a decent lead/revenge killer in Standard

Typhlosion@Petya Berry
252SP.Attack/252 Speed/4Def
IVs: 30 HP
Modest/Timid Nature
-Subsitute
-Sunny Day/Focus Blast/Hidden Power [Fighting/Ice]
-Solar Beam
-Flamethrower
basic strategy is to sub down until Petya Berry activates, setting up sunny day while you do it if you have it, and sweep with a boosted Flamethrower (With Blaze and the Petya Berry boost it can pack a huge punch), Solarbeam takes down waters/rocks an dif you don't want to run Sunny Day Focus Blast/Hidden Power [Fighting] offer pretty good coverage as fighting has awesaome coverage, or you can go HP[Ice] so Altaria doesn't lol at you. With 30 HP IV's and no HP EV's it takes only 3 subs to activate the Berry.

This is assuming you're using this in BL matches, if you're using this in standard than Scarf-Eruption is superior (as Sub-Petya Empoleon out classes you). I prefer to use this as a lead as Stealth Rock can get annoying w/o a spinner.

Typhlosion@Chioce Scarf
144 Atk / 252 SpA / 112 Spe
Mild/Rash nature
-Eruption
-Focus Punch
-Overheat/Will-o-Whisp/Flamethrower
-Earthquake/Hidden Power [Ice]
Scarf gives you enough speed to outspeed most threats, focus punch hurts in comming Blissey/Heatran as Shuca Berry can be common on them or you're not running EQ. Eruption at full HP does massive damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Overheat is for an alternate fire move, Will-o-Whisp can ruin Dragons/Gyarados who think they can switch in and set up and Flamethrower is more for late game sweeping, but only if you know you'll be staying in for more than 2 turns as 2 overheats do more damage than 2 flamethrowers and the last is filler, HP[Ice] hits incoming dragons hard if you don't feel like burning them, but EQ takes care of Heatran if it doesn't have a Shucca Berry.

Nidoking AND Nidoqueen is a little redundant also adding another pokemon weak to EQ (Shiftry DOES resist ground, but still if it's dea you're donefore)

and Heatran can cause this team problems if you're playing in OU. Sunlight + Flashfire boost causes a lot of trouble on you can nothing resists it.
Sunny Day support makes bulky waters unusable, so you might have to resort to someone speedy with a ground/fighting move, Scarf-Typhlosion can be a realaible check if you know how to use it.

Also: Please use the standard format, the EV's are annoying to decipher and make it clear whether or not you're using this team in standards, as the only Dragon in BL/UU/NU is Altaria so the references to dragons threw me off...

 

[luke]

Since you are using BL Pokemon on this team, I'm guessing this is being used in OU. If that's the case, you are incredibly unprepared for numerous threats.

Gyarados and Salamence massacre you after one Dragon Dance. Scizor can come in on any of your Pokemon except Typhlosion and massacre you with Bullet Punch / U-Turn. Heatran causes you problems too.

I suggest removing Froslass and making this an UU team. It would be more successful there.

 

[TERRA#493]

One forward: Every team has a weakness/weaknesses, you know that.
Aslong this team works very well, even against OUs. What i expect me from Rating a Team is, that they should help me, by decisions, where i'm unsure. In this case, you should help me by finding a Pokemon for the 3rd slot.

Please don't think of me now, that i mean, i'm the Mastermind of this World and dont have to pay attention to other mentions. What i mean is, that EVERY team has weaknesses, and when i change my team now after your suggestions, it will have weaknesses as well. Not the same weaknesses, but other weaknesses.

So, please help me by finding a Pokemon for the 3rd slot. And once more: I call this team "lower Tier team" what means, that i have a OU team too, but preferring lower Tier pokemon i use this team oftener - against NU/UU/BL OR OU.

 

[luke]

You don't seem to understand. With just ONE BL Pokemon on your team, you can't use this against UU teams.

 

[Jake♫]

You don't seem to understand. With just ONE BL Pokemon on your team, you can't use this against UU teams.

^That

Froslass makes this an OU team automatically, and therefore not a lower tier team. BL is only usable in OU, as it is banned from UU and below. Therefore, if you want a lower tier team, Froslass needs to go.

For a Spikes lead, try Roserade>>Froslass. She has great SpD and SpA, and can learn Spikes, along with Sleep Powder and Sub Seeding. Whatever fits your fancy.

 

[Dark Azelf]

^That

Froslass makes this an OU team automatically, and therefore not a lower tier team. BL is only usable in OU, as it is banned from UU and below. Therefore, if you want a lower tier team, Froslass needs to go.

For a Spikes lead, try Roserade>>Froslass. She has great SpD and SpA, and can learn Spikes, along with Sleep Powder and Sub Seeding. Whatever fits your fancy.

^ Just a note however, that Sleep Powder + Spikes is illegal on the same set so you will have to resort to the ass Grass Whistle if you want a sleep move with Spikes.

Cacturne is a pretty decent lead with Counter/Sucker/Seed Bomb/Spikes @Sash. lols at most leads, you can use Encore >> seed bomb too or counter. Id advise counter though, mainly for Crobat.

Put a ghost >> one of the nido's if you are doing this. Tomb, Mismag, Rotom are your best choices for spin blocking.

Please don't think of me now, that i mean, i'm the Mastermind of this World and dont have to pay attention to other mentions. What i mean is, that EVERY team has weaknesses, and when i change my team now after your suggestions, it will have weaknesses as well. Not the same weaknesses, but other weaknesses.

Bad logic, no offense. The idea is to COVER as many weaks as possible, so what if you have a few weaks ? Every team does, just as long as you cover a good 90% of threats.

 

[Max™]

This may just be me but does this team even have 6 people ?_________?
I noticed that most of your pokemon only 252/252 stats, meaning you probably have 4 leftover on each, this doesnt matter much but you might want to put those extra 4 somewhere.

Otherwise, use the more superior sets given above for your pokemon.

 

[TERRA#493]

^That

Froslass makes this an OU team automatically, and therefore not a lower tier team. BL is only usable in OU, as it is banned from UU and below. Therefore, if you want a lower tier team, Froslass needs to go.

For a Spikes lead, try Roserade>>Froslass. She has great SpD and SpA, and can learn Spikes, along with Sleep Powder and Sub Seeding. Whatever fits your fancy.

I first had Roserade as my lead, but when i saw this thread i had to change it:
Official Pokemon Tierlist. Is this thread not actual so, or what? Because there Froslass is UU. But okay, i see that Typhlosion is BL, so okay, i will call this Team OU.

I will change my team. For first, can any mod delete/close this topic?

 

[Dark Azelf]

I first had Roserade as my lead, but when i saw this thread i had to change it:
Official Pokemon Tierlist. Is this thread not actual so, or what? Because there Froslass is UU. But okay, i see that Typhlosion is BL, so okay, i will call this Team OU.

I will change my team. For first, can any mod delete/close this topic?

That thread is outdated.

We use this : -*smogon.com link removed* tier list.


Ok, ill lock it for you.

~Closed~