Terri Schiavo

Personally this whole issue sickens me. Anyways, it's up to the husband whether to keep her "alive" or not. Being braindead is not really being alive; what I mean is that humans are self aware, and she is no longer self aware. She is "alive" in the sense that her body still works, but her mind is clearly dead.

BTW who's paying for keeping her "alive"? people do know that keeping someone on a feeding tube and in a hospital costs an astronomical amount, right? And my guess is that somehow it all boils down to the taxpayers paying for this, which is not right.

I also think that it's sick that they just removed her feeding tube and are waiting for her to die. I mean, she can't really feel it, but it's still kinda morbid.
 
Umbreon_07 said:
BTW who's paying for keeping her "alive"? people do know that keeping someone on a feeding tube and in a hospital costs an astronomical amount, right? And my guess is that somehow it all boils down to the taxpayers paying for this, which is not right.
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The hospital is paying for it. They said they gave 1.3 million to the husband to pay for the Hospice bills, for food and water and so on. He took out $300,000 to go back to school to be a nurse. He said he was going to use that money to help his wife once she gets better.


And here is another reason why I don't think she is braindead. If she was braindead then she wouldn't feel pain (if you got your head blown off and your body was still working then do you think you would feel pain?). But why are they giving her Morphine to ease the pain of going without food or water? Shouldn't a braindead person not feel pain, not know what is it? If so then that means by giving her Morphine she isn't brain dead.
 
The hospital is paying for it? that's horrible... that's part of why we can't have free health care in this country. Hospitals don't have enough money these days. If the parents want to keep her "alive" then they should pay for it.
Especially where I live, the hospitals are having problems staying open. We've lost like, 10 emergency trauma centers in the past few years.


Also where did you hear about her not being braindead, ya know, givin her morphine and stuff? O_o
I don't really like the husband too much either, but yeah I still think that keeping someone that's so... damaged alive is a waste of money. The parents should pay for it if they want her alive. Personally I couldn't stand seeing someone like that, and I'd fight to let the doctors take their feeding tube out too, so even though the husband's motives seem shady, I could sorta see where he's coming from.
 
She isn't braindead at this point, she will be if she goes longer without the feeding tube. She still shows signs of awareness, she has never been classified as brain dead that I know of.
 
Umbreon_07 said:
The hospital is paying for it? that's horrible... that's part of why we can't have free health care in this country. Hospitals don't have enough money these days. If the parents want to keep her "alive" then they should pay for it.
Especially where I live, the hospitals are having problems staying open. We've lost like, 10 emergency trauma centers in the past few years.


Also where did you hear about her not being braindead, ya know, givin her morphine and stuff? O_o
I don't really like the husband too much either, but yeah I still think that keeping someone that's so... damaged alive is a waste of money. The parents should pay for it if they want her alive. Personally I couldn't stand seeing someone like that, and I'd fight to let the doctors take their feeding tube out too, so even though the husband's motives seem shady, I could sorta see where he's coming from.
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I'm not going to get started on free health care. But I will say it will be the end of health care if we do get free health care.

No one has said she was brain dead. With all the stuff I heard on the news about her I would say she is just as brain dead as anyone of us (I don't think anyone would call someone with Down syndrome "Brain Dead", she was kind of like that).
And I heard it on the news, I watched this story closely. They were giving her Morphine for the pain.


Well all the fighting from her parents is now over since Terri passed away today around 9 am.
 
Ice Rabbit said:
Her death is long overdue.
She even said she didn't want to live like that a long time ago.
So why did they keep her alive?
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Are you so sure she did? She had it in writing in a Living Will. Only 4 people said she didn't want to live like that. And I'm sure she didn't want to starve to death. She has been like she was for 15 years, and only now in the past 2 or 3 years them people said she didn't want to live like that. To me that's real strange (after 15 years looks like they would have remembered).
 
They kept her alive because her parents are very Catholic. It's very against Christianity to kill people...but honestly, I find it terrible...I hope she's in a better place now...that's all I can say~
 
Arcanine said:
Are you so sure she did? She had it in writing in a Living Will. Only 4 people said she didn't want to live like that. And I'm sure she didn't want to starve to death. She has been like she was for 15 years, and only now in the past 2 or 3 years them people said she didn't want to live like that. To me that's real strange (after 15 years looks like they would have remembered).
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Well she did want to live, but as I remember it only because she thought there would be a cure for something in her lifetime. I know she didn't want to starve to death though.

And yes, she was not brain dead. Her EKGs always came out positive for the electro activity in the brain that classified her as aware.
 
OMG she died? I never really thought it was the husband's choice to pull the plug out. I was pissed.
 
whether or not the husband wanted it or not, i think that the entire process of starving her to death [even tho she was aware of what was occuring, to some degree] was disgusting.
For a nation which is so advance u cannot tell me that they could fine no other way.
I think that if there was no chance of her ever recovering, then allowing her to die was best.The means of doing it, was not.
 
In any case like this, I'm fine with whatever is stated in the will. But there was nothing, and in those cases one must side with life. It's a much better option than letting the sleezball husband kill her off so he can have a fairy tale life with his girlfriend and their two kids.
 
Fairty tale life? He was offered millions to keep her alive, much more than what he got o.o

Just a note, I don't agree/disagree with it, it isn't my business so I won't stick my nose where it doesn't belong
 
By fairy tale life, I didn't really mean he got money. I meant, she was a burden to him and interferring with his new life. Getting rid of her, solved his problem. @@
 
Bunny, in response to what you said:
No one is going to know, because she will never be able to tell anyone. I don't care what the machines said, because no one knows.
 
Eliana said:
Bunny, in response to what you said:
No one is going to know, because she will never be able to tell anyone. I don't care what the machines said, because no one knows.
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Yes...You can know O.o
Electrical activity in the brain means that the brain is having some form of THOUGHT process...Her EKG showed she had an electrical activity level high enough for thought process and awarness. She wasn't brain dead. She was fully aware of things happening around her, it was just her body that was dead.
 
She was basically brain dead -a large proportion of her brain had become water ^^;
I don't think the government should have ever become involved..it's really sick that they did..it should be a family decision, and the family had given up on her ever waking up, so it was right to give them the authority.
The people protesting was really wrong..most didn't even know her yet they start telling the family what to do? Really sick to be honest..
And the videos of her being all awake and moving around etc. were from about 4 years ago, so noone outside of the family and doctors knew how she looked now ^^;
I think the right decision was made based on the family views ^^
 
Blue said:
Yes...You can know O.o
Electrical activity in the brain means that the brain is having some form of THOUGHT process...Her EKG showed she had an electrical activity level high enough for thought process and awarness. She wasn't brain dead. She was fully aware of things happening around her, it was just her body that was dead.
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The main areas of the brain, ie the areas involved in thought and awareness were all but gone.Spinal fluid filled the space.
She was in a persistant vegetative state, so the longer they left her the more her brain would degenerate.
She showed signs of awarness because the area that is involved in involuntary movements [heart beats,breathing,Blinking] was still active to some extent.Therefore she would show signs of awareness when in fact it wasn't that, they were flexes.
What i am trying to say is that u got it the wrong way.
Her body was alive but her brain was mostly dead.
 
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