The ARPG

[Shuckle]

The ARPG. A Soon to Be part of PC?

Now I very well realize that I have no power here, or no weight as an established member. I am still here to propose to you this.

The ARPG

OverView

The ARPG will be an online community that will be run by a series of people but only by Four until it gets larger. Those four people will be, if this becomes a part of the forum, Kholdstaire, Myself, and Mana Lugia. The fourth person will be an established member, not a moderator, from the forum, me and Mana proposed Frostweaver, but we cant very well force him to do it. The ARPG will consume only a few forums, 4 or 5 at the most once we get the kinks worked out. It will not be a downloadably RPG, it is a Community per se. In the next few paragraphs I will explain to you how it works and stuff like that. We would like to get this put on your forum because of the large member count, therefor supplying us with members.

Organization

Since you people are so fussy about bandwidth, I'll tell how I'd like to have it be. Have a forum named ARPG. Then have sub forums added to that that are as followed. 'The ARPG: General', 'The ARPG: Battles', 'The ARPG: Pokemon Stories', and finally, 'The ARPG: Other'. Then I request that four people become moderators at ONLY those four sub forums. I would also ask that only those moderators moderate there, and all you other admins and gmods keep your moderating out of there if at all possible. The four people that I request are Kholdstaire, myself, Mana Lugia, and one established member from yourselves, preferrably Frostweaver.

Starting Out

Starting out is the simplest thing you can do really. :P You go to a thread we'll have entitled 'Starter Requests' and there you can pick ANY first evolution or baby pokemon besides ones that will be set and legendaries. You will get 3000 dollars and become a certified trainer. Then you can go to a thread we'll have set up called 'Trainer Stats'. There you will post your Trainer stats, including all of your messenger identities, your money, information and maybe pictures of your pokemon, your gym badges you've gotten, among other things. Things you should include with your pokemon information would be TMs you have bought them, Breeding Moves you have taught them (this will all be covered in a later portion of this post) and their abbilities for RS style battling, where they will come into play.

The Pokemart

You have to buy TMs and other items for your journey. You can take the money you've earned from beating other trainers, reffing lots of battles, or being a grader, and then buy anything from TMs and HMs to certain pokemon. Other pokemon will only be available through certain prizes, etc etc. An approved Cashier will approve your order and give your stuff.

Trading

You can trade with other trainers, just go to the specified thread we'll have set up and let them confirm the trade. If it is not confirmed int he thread, it is unofficial, and therefor you cant use the poke in battle :P

Battling

You can battle in the forum, you can battle on AIM, YIM, or even MSN. The more versatile you are the more battles you'll get. Keep that in mind. I know your all thinking, 'How can you battle your pokemon without a program to calculate damage?'. Well people, we have referees to do that. We will have a formula that figures out the damage and he can also do many other things, he slices, he dices, and he refs your pokemon battles. You can become a ref by being ref tested by one of our nifty ref testers. They will give you a fake battle and ask you to ref it, make no mistakes and then you get to be a real ref and make lots of money. This is a way to gain experience for your pokemon and the refs get money for reffing, along with the trainers who get money for winning/losing. Certain people will be appointed Gym Leaders, then you can battle them for their badge and TM. You get extra cash for beating these guys. Then there are the elite, which when you defeat them, you take their spot. That way the elite four will generally always be the top four people of the ARPG. Also, you can pick how to battle, such as GSC, (same as RS but without abilities) and RS, which has the abilities of pokemon. You can do 2 on 2 battles, or you can do a four man free for all if you wish!

Catching Pokemon

'How do you catch pokemon?' You can write stories for them and let a grader tell you if its good enough to catch the pokemon. A grader is a person who is hired by the ARPG to tell you if your good enough to catch the pokemon. He can be tested and become an official grader and also gets paid for grading stories. So make sure you treat the graders nice so they'll grade your story :P You can also get pokemon by buying them at the mart. There is going to be a third way to get pokemon, but we have not yet finished with it. YOU CAN NOT GET LEGENDARIES

Miscellaneous

Here I'll give you all the random stuff thats important. For battling, the winner gets 1000, loser gets 500. 2000/1000 for Gym Battles and 3000/1500 for Elite Battles. You pokemon can use any move they can learn naturally, through level 100, and they have their max stats for that stage. For two evo pokes, 4 battles for each evo, and then 7 for one evo pokes. Refferees get paid 500 per pair of pokemon used, and get a set amount for gym and elite battles. This amount hasnt been set yet. Graders get 500 for a short story, 1000 for medium, and 1500 for long. Anything big will be debated upon.

Random Occurences

There will be many side things for the ARPG. There will be auctions where rare Pokemon and things will be auctioned off, there will be the breeding center, whih needs to be finished up and finalized before I explain it to you. There will even be big tourneys and writing competitions where you will be able to possible *gasp win legendaries. There will be a hall of fame so that you can show off your greatness, and there will be a big rule thread thats going to restrict you from trashing the ARPG.

Still confused? Ask me direct questions and I'll answer them. Mana Lugia will be able to as well.

 

[Eliana]

^^ Thats a pretty good idea, but you could just make an RP in the RP area!
Also, I doubt they would let an area be run by regular members, no offense or anything, I am sure you are fully capable of doing so!

 

[Shuckle]

If you really thought I was capable you would of not brought it up.

And I picked those people because WE know how it works in detail. Regular mods would not know how to work it or anything like that. This is just because they have no experience with things like this. I'm sorry if this is insulting to any mods IQ.

 

[Mana Lugia]

And as for an example of Trainer stats, btw,

https://www.empire.ma.cx/pokemonelite2000/showpost.php?p=36212&postcount=90

The reason we are trying to push for this RPG is because we love the URPG, but it's slowly dying from inactivity, even though we have no idea why that is the case.

And the problem with putting it on 1 thread is the fact that it will be very. very. VERY messy. This was the problem with the PAC (pokemon Adoption Center) that I was a part of back when pgamers.net was around.

The URPG, in its history, has always required the space, because of how well thought out it was, to run. Without it, it'd be like being restrained to a small box when you are a Wailord. That's basically saying, you die now or you break the box and get banned or something >_>

 

[ravenstorture]

I think it would have been a lot better and more professional if you would have PMed this to Andy, instead of making a thread about it.

 

[Arcanine]

Eli is right. I am not all that fond of making 3 member's Mods (even more so when two of them joined 2 days ago and might not know how PC works) just because they start an RP (Frosty was a Mod on the other hand). And then told to keep my nose out of it just because I might not know what's going on.


But I do like the RP idea.


Piro: Well I was PMed about this (I was about to say start a thread about it in Q&F XD).

 

[ravenstorture]

Well, how was I suppose to know? I was just saying what I thought would be best.

 

[Claire]

I agree it's a fun idea, but im with Andy -you cant just say which ppl will mod the area. Making new mods (who are very new themselves) just for a new section would be a bad idea :\
But that kind of rpg would be fun..just minus the mod idea

 

[Mana Lugia]

I don't see all of us as possible mods for any forums, but the only reason mods would be needed is the ability to sticky and edit certain threads that need to be in each forum. Technically, if someone with that power do have enough time to be PM'd ever 20 minutes about doing stuff to a different thread in that forum, I'm sure that'd work. However, it's just a _really_ bad idea to (Inefficiency at its finest)

Now if there are any questions about how the RPG operates, we'd be happy to field those questions. As well, this RPG technically goes back a long way, since we're kinda basing it off the URPG, which started on Yahoo! groups, and later merged into PE2K, but is now lagging.

For the actual Mod issue, I'm just going to say this: Of course you're not going to trust us at the beginning to work out. However, it really comes down to this: The job of the RPG mod is just to sticky and edit the posts that need to be. Of course, the alternative I gave above is to just let us officiate while certain admins help out at this, but then we'd definately need to set down who we're going to send 20 PMs to each day about doing stuff in those forums. I could always say Frosty, or whoever we end up getting as PC's original official, be modded since they've been here awhile, but then all the load of work would be put on him/her, since officials would really be doing nothing.

I'll talk to Shuckle and Khold about this issue though, I'm sure we can work out a compromise.

 

[BigBoss]

This Idea seems pretty cool, but I don't like new members becoming mods.

 

[Arcanine]

Well, how was I suppose to know? I was just saying what I thought would be best.

I know you couldn't have known Piro. You did say the right thing by saying this could have been done in a PM.


Edit: I do see your point in editing threads and stick and that kind of stuff.
But having a Mod that joined a few days ago is not something I would like nor would most of the members (we have been down that road before, Modded a member just because he was good on another forum, Modding him right after he joined).

 

[Claire]

Mana, we would just get ppl who are already mods to mod the area, since it's basically another rpg. The need for stickies wouldnt be a problem, considering it's mainly be just the actual setting up, so its not "inefficient".

 

[Rukario]

Nice... but here's a quick heads up: PC is investigating an ACTIVE RPG 'hack' for vB. Perhaps a hosted solution or something, we don't quite know yet but it fully supports using the vB member base and so on.. it shouldn't be all that hard to set it up like we want and 'Poketize' it.

more on this as we find out the details, costs, and what it'll do to our space/bandwidth requirements.

As for your idea we'll take it under consideration in the mean time.

 

[Mana Lugia]

It isn't truly a problem, yes, but we'd definately have to set a person we all PM to. And for the first few days, there will be a lot of things needed to be stickified. The setup will require awhile (preferably not released to public until every single thread needed is made), but I'm sure the thing will stabilize.

The real problem comes in when random mods do interfere with the running of the ARPG just because they have some sort of power. Since the RPG is ran by a group of members that do not include this mod (whoever it is), by using the power of the mod, basically it's saying "I have no respect for your RPG and I wish to take it over because I am a Mod". This is one situation we want to avoid at all costs, which is why we would like to say that if any mod enters the ARPG forums, they are automatically no longer a mod.

However, this rule should only go as far as the boundaries of PC's general rules. Yes, the ARPG will allow some whacky types of posting, but the mod should be allowed to curtail anything that might be offending PC's actual rules. But as well, the mod must be able to curtail anything that violates the ARPG's rules, which means if you break our rule, we will sic a mod on you, although we would prefer to take care of it myself.

Anyways, I'm going to be thinking and working on this issue, along with the few little kinks we will be working on, such as overpowered pokemon and such.

Edit: To PPNSteve- An Active RPG hack? The only thing I'll challenge is the validity of any/all of the calculations involved in a battle. In terms of how the battling system works in the ARPG, it's all but worked out, and is almost identical to how the game would be functioning. We don't think it would be close to being identical to an RPG hack, and isn't that the hack where you gain levels as you post more? Anyways, that's all I have to say about this RPG hack thing. (I don't see it as impossible for both to exist, I mean)

 

[Claire]

Mana, mods respect the area that they mod, we're not all power hungry and uncaring about the section we mod, otherwise we wouldnt be modding that area..
Mods wont "interfere", only help where its needed.

 

[parallelzero]

I don't know... I like PC the way it is now, and Ive seen other forums that have similar ideas like this, and they died. I just cant see something like this being beneficial.
*and if I get any more bad rep for stating my opinion... im going to go insane >.<*

 

[Mana Lugia]

That is certainly true, but then there would be no reason not to mod the officials of this RPG in that case, lol. Definately, I'm not implying that any mod is power hungry and whatnot, but we really wish we can avoid situations where someone posts ___, and someone posts something else, and then a mod randomly comes in and yells "HEY YOU, YOU'RE OFF TOPIC!".

The rationale really is since we're basing it off the URPG in PE2K, we're doing a lot of things that we think they are doing correctly. One thing is that no PE2K Gmods are allowed to moderate the URPG sections. While spamming is banned in both areas, there are certain things that are very much lax on in the URPG. For example, there'd be a thread about "Come on, people, make more activity!" and then someone else posts "*pokes ___ in the eye*". Sure, you can argue that has nothing to do with the original topic, but it would be very nice to be assured that we won't have a random mod coming in yelling "OFF TOPIC DIE" or "THAT IS SPAM" or things like that.

And no, I'm not saying the mods here would do that, but a lot of times it's really a matter of precaution, right?

Oh gosh darnit, I forgot what else I was going to say now >_>

Edit: To Poster Above:
The URPG has survived over 2 years, and it's technically still running, since there are still a few refs around to ref battles. The activity is dwindling, but the passion for the game is still there. If the forum turns out to be a bust, who loses? Really, only the admin for having to take time to delete it. However, if the idea pulls off the ground and prospers, the entire forum will benefit from a fun idea that tests both your ability to battle and your knowledge of pokemon.

I respect your opinion that this forum do not need a new RPG, but my idea is that it wouldn't be a bad idea to try. If anything, we can even form teams in the RPG and have like a "war" or something to find the best team! (Of course, this can apply to everything too!)

 

[parallelzero]

I still disagree with the whole idea. But the final decision isnt mine to make, so ill wait and see what happens.

 

[Mana Lugia]

Hey, no single idea is going to be supported by everyone, that's fair. But a little changeup wouldn't be bad once in awhile, IMHO.

You think you way, I think mine :D

 

[ravenstorture]

Shuckle, I see another option being that Andy doesn't approve this idea and you three members do not become mods and especially you trying to force it that you must be a moderator considering you just joined a day ago. Simple as that.~_^

Edite:

Nice, deleting your post because you knew you would get some criticism for that little post of yours and then making me look like an idiot. Nice.