The Clan - Organization Thread v.2

I gotta hatch first. Thanks, you're always there to help me. xD

EDIT: Ok, I got ten to check this time. So two battles. ^^ I'll be on right now. And if I get a really good find, I'll post it. ^^

EDIT2: I still need a second battle...I have ten to check and I only got 5 in.

EDIT3: I guess no one looks here anymore. xD Guess I'll just have to wait...xD

~desu Saba~
 
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Sorry, I was looking for new posts from the forum view. I'll be on in a moment.
 
Sure, go ahead and challenge.
 
The only one I have worth sharing is this one: [17/24/19/6/31/2] Sassy
It's for a special Wall Bronzong, also a Trick Room-er so the 2 IVs in speed are good. Just I wish it's HP could be higher along with it's attack. Special Defense will be (nearly) flawless I believe though. Nearly because if I remember correctly, I don't invest 252 SpD EVs into it. I'll have to check though.
So the question is: Worth using or should I breed for better HP/Atk?

EDIT: AGHHHH!!!! ='[ I just forgot to save my IV stats page on Excel. I exited out and accidentally hit no because my stupid mouse doesn't move right! ='[ At least I got 3 of them...out of 13....wow. I'm soooo like angry and sad and feel like okami's and my IV check battle was a waste. I'll just breed off of that one I said earlier. *sigh* It doesn't matter because none of the other ones interested me much. (I had a 30 IV attack on and 31 IV HP one, those are the only other ones that were worth a look, but the other two stats I needed them for sucked.) I'll try for a: 31/31/x/x/31/low

~desu Saba~
 
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Sorry for the DC Kazaam, whenever the second phone line gets picked up in our house the wireless internet goes down for no good reason.

I think you might have had that one in the bag though, depends on what you had left.

Sabaku - When I used to breed for attacking pokemon I settled for no less than 20 in HP and each defense stat, and no less than 25 on the relevant attack stat and speed. Similarly, for walls I settled for no less than 20 in the relevant attack stat and 25 on HP and both defenses.

So that's pretty much up to you.
 
Sabaku no Gaara said:
EDIT: AGHHHH!!!! ='[ I just forgot to save my IV stats page on Excel. I exited out and accidentally hit no because my stupid mouse doesn't move right! ='[ At least I got 3 of them...out of 13....wow. I'm soooo like angry and sad and feel like okami's and my IV check battle was a waste. I'll just breed off of that one I said earlier. *sigh* It doesn't matter because none of the other ones interested me much. (I had a 30 IV attack one and 31 IV HP one, those are the only other ones that were worth a look, but the other two stats I needed them for sucked.) I'll try for a: 31/31/x/x/31/low
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Just edited. =[

Here's my set though.

Bronzong@Leftovers
Sassy~~252 HP; 152 Atk; 8 Def; 98 Sp Def~~Levitate
Gyro Ball
Hypnosis
Trick Room
Earthquake

In my opinion, I think that the EVs are messed up. If he's not working as a physical sweeper or physical wall, why would he need those EVs? (I could switch for those)
So I was thinking: 252 Sp Def; 252 HP; 4 Atk (or take a few from HP and put it in Attack)

xD I'm probably and idiot for revealing my set right here, but I don't care, I want help.

@okami: Well I'm trying for low speed, because I'm running a trick room team (although I'll have a Jolteon just in case both my Trick Roomers die. Then I at least have on fast pokemon)

~desu Saba~
 
Bronzong isn't mean to be a sweeper, its meant to be a wall. Unless those ATK ev's let you OHKO or 2KO something important that you otherwise wouldn't be able to, its probably best to put those EVs somewhere else.

I know you are trying for low speed for Trick Room and Gyro ball. I see you are using the Smogon suggested EV spread, but since your IV's aren't perfect look at the numbers they were aiming for (throw them into a calculator). Also, you don't have to follow Smogon's suggested sets. I have used a few alternative movesets and EV spreads on my pokemon to good success. People won't expect something different, so sometimes it helps you out.

For instance, I run a Miltank with roughly equal defenses. People expect to be able to OHKO it with Gengar's un-c.spec'd Focus Blasts, but because of my spread it survives to Thunder Wave and then stall them out with Milk Drink. With Paralyzation and the low accuracy of Focus Blast they won't likely kill Miltank unless they critical, and Miltank will kill them with a few Scrappy Seismic Tosses.
 
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So are you saying that my spread would be fine. (I know it's not meant to be a sweeper which is what I'm saying. The only thing is Gyro Ball can kill on this one. Low speed + STAB = Big Damage on fast foes.) Trick Rooming can kill most peoples' sweepers because most of the time they're fast, so therefore, they'll be slow. xD

~desu Saba~
 
Strange. Maybe his Bronzong isn't as good as mine will be. XP

Seriously though, I have Earthquake too. I think he'll hold up fine. ^^ Plus he's not meant for attacking really. Just Trick Rooming and Hypnosis-ing. (Also to fill the role of Special Wall) Invincible to ground also because of levitate, leaving one weakness. Fire.

P.S. Okami, I hope you don't mind, but would I be able to IV check with you tomorrow again? (I can't stand not having the records.) It'll be like 10 battles tomorrow, only. xD Not really, but it will be about 5-ish. I think I'm pretty quick on them too, but I understand if you don't want to. ^^

~desu Saba~
 
Hey Ooka, shall we have that UU battle? I don't care if you use BL pokemon, I'm fine with it.
 
I'm done playing for tonight. Breeding is getting annoying, well when you're multi-tasking. xD Plus my batteries are low.

One last question though, does anyone know where I could find a Hidden Power guide? (Like the IVs that give certain HPs) I've seen one before, but can't remember where. (I'm thinking Serebii. I'll keep checking there)

~desu Saba~
 
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Whoo! I got almost a whole box filled with Sassy Bronzor! xD Only four have their IVs figured out...xD

Well I did a calculation (with the help of a Damage Calculator) and found out that my Bronzong will be able to hold up against a Fire Blast from a Choice Specs Salamence with perfect Special Attack (I figured it was the most common fire using pokemon out there) in just about the worst case scenario. Critical Hit and Sunny Day are the only things that can cause an OHKO.

Without Sunny Day/Critical: 74.56% - 87.87% damage.

With Sunny Day: 111.83% - 131.66% damage.

With Critical: 149.41% - 175.74% damage.

With Sunny Day + Critical: 223.96% - 263.31% damage.

~desu Saba~
 
I don't know. The calculator didn't include natures....wait. Let me go back to it and see if it does (why wouldn't it?)

Ok, yeah those are on any Salamence with a Special Attack raising Nature (it asks for personality: Negative/Positive/Neutral and it affects the damage depending on which attack you choose) So he can hold up to a SpecsMence using Fire Blast (no critical/sunny day)

~desu Saba~
 
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