The Daily Chit-Chat [2008]

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Jack O'Neill said:
Did LeBron James pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act? Did LeBron James establish Medicare? Did LeBron James increase American military involvement in Vietnam? Didn't think so.
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I know -_- But I'm definitely not a historian (I'm not even American :/)... I hadn't even heard of Lyndon Johnson until right now. Hell, I don't even know Canadian history.

Dangit... I have a history exam on Monday.
 
akaxrai said:
I know -_- But I'm definitely not a historian (I'm not even American :/)... I hadn't even heard of Lyndon Johnson until right now. Hell, I don't even know Canadian history.
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Tell me about it. I'm an immigrant so I'm not born here in New Zealand. I am gonna get crushed at college (high school for you American folks) because I don't know the slightest thing about New Zealand history.

Which reminds of that "subjects which have the least impact on you" topic I saw earlier today...learning when the Treaty of Waitangi was signed won't help me in the future...unless I decide to become...I dunno, a librarian? xD
 
Pfffffft. Tell me about it. I hate history with a passion, I'm just glad I'm passing the damn class >_>
Solid 72%. Booyah. :D
 
akaxrai said:
I know -_- But I'm definitely not a historian (I'm not even American :/)... I hadn't even heard of Lyndon Johnson until right now. Hell, I don't even know Canadian history.

Dangit... I have a history exam on Monday.
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All I know about Canadian history is the following:

- The United Kingdom seized Canada from France during the Seven Years' War (1756-1763).
- The United States failed to seize Canada during the War of 1812 due to poor logistics and general incompetence.
- Canada became a dominion of the British Empire in 1867; it gained full legislative sovereignty under the Statute of Westminster 1931.
- Canada was an Allied nation in both World Wars.
- Canada joined NATO in 1949.
- Canada did not gain the right to amend its own constitution until 1982; prior to that, all amendments to the Canadian Constitution had to be approved by the British Parliament.
- Canada ratified the North American Free Trade Agreement in 1994.

B-Baller said:
Tell me about it. I'm an immigrant so I'm not born here in New Zealand. I am gonna get crushed at college (high school for you American folks) because I don't know the slightest thing about New Zealand history.

Which reminds of that "subjects which have the least impact on you" topic I saw earlier today...learning when the Treaty of Waitangi was signed won't help me in the future...unless I decide to become...I dunno, a librarian? xD
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The Treaty of Waitangi was signed in 1840 and made New Zealand a colony of the United Kingdom.
 
Canadian history doesn't really get interesting until grade 10 (in Ontario, anyway) when we finally get into the 1900s and it's only interesting while learning about the World Wars which, not surprisingly, included countries other than Canada too. :| Long story short, Canada's history is boring.
 
I'm in Grade 10 right now and it's all... not interesting at all :/ I'm glad it's over on Monday and I'll never have to take it again. I'm just not a history person.
 
I liked history, but I hated the idiots I took it with. I was in remedial US History and I had a 105% yet they wouldnt let me into the AP class -_-;
The Teacher asks "Class, who was the president the freed the slaves"
A kid answers with confidence "George W. Bush!"
...-_-;
I cant tell if thats sad or scary
 
Xairmo said:
I liked history, but I hated the idiots I took it with. I was in remedial US History and I had a 105% yet they wouldnt let me into the AP class -_-;
The Teacher asks "Class, who was the president the freed the slaves"
A kid answers with confidence "George W. Bush!"
...-_-;
I cant tell if thats sad or scary
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Unfortunately, I could say that would almost be like me. -_-
It's really, really scary indeed. xD
 
Xairmo said:
I liked history, but I hated the idiots I took it with. I was in remedial US History and I had a 105% yet they wouldnt let me into the AP class -_-;
The Teacher asks "Class, who was the president the freed the slaves"
A kid answers with confidence "George W. Bush!"
...-_-;
I cant tell if thats sad or scary
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The degeneration of the American education system at work.

I'd recommend moving to Finland, Hong Kong, Taiwan, or South Korea.
 
They've got good history curriculums over there? Or just better education overall?
 
Dude, we placed 7th in Math, 3rd in Science, and 4th in Reading? Wow, I guess we definitely don't know how good we have it after all :/ Especially since the US didn't even chart.
 
akaxrai said:
Dude, we placed 7th in Math, 3rd in Science, and 4th in Reading? Wow, I guess we definitely don't know how good we have it after all :/ Especially since the US didn't even chart.
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The United States has consistently ranked among the lowest in those assessments; only a few other nations rank lower than America.

Miserable Noten für amerikanische Schüler, indeed.
 
Oh, really? I did not know they ranked that low. It's depressing, really :|
 
Jack O'Neill said:
The United States has consistently ranked among the lowest in those assessments; only a few other nations rank lower than America.

Miserable Noten für amerikanische Schüler, indeed.
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HEY IT'S RANDOM GERMAN 8D
...sorry, but I like German, haha. I still geek out when I see it and understand it. XD;;

Anyway! I'll believe that the US doesn't have good education. I never had issues in my regular high school classes, and not even in my AP classes. You keep hearing about how US schoolchildren can't locate anything in the world. And here in college, right now, I haven't had a really hard class, just classes that I haven't studied enough for.
When my German teacher in high school transferred credits he'd gotten from an English university (he was English -- go fig, English guy teaching German on an US Air base), the US university actually bumped his grades up because, apparently, English universities are harder. I don't think that really says much about us...
And our standardized tests were always a joke. I always tried my best and got scores in the high 90s. There were only a few things that were even remotely hard. Most of it was a breeze.

But yet, some kids are to blame as much as the system, I think. I still cannot understand how some kids can flunk easy classes like Health. For most classes, if you'd actually turn up and do a little work, you could at least pass. Hell, you might even do well on tests. I don't think the excuse "I'm a bad test-taker" is that valid, because nothing was ever hard in high school for me, not once you learned it. Maybe for the SAT/ACT, but for regular tests, I don't think so.

Then again, I always attended class (in high school) and did the work, so...
 
I must admit, I am a very lazy student. Coincidentally, I did almost flunk Health class, but I did turn up (I've only skipped class... six times in two years, four of them were because they were days that didn't matter like snow days and days before vacations - acutally, the day before Christmas holidays is know around here as International Skipping Day, since no one goes to class and ends up playing Guitar Hero in an empty classroom. The other two times were because my teacher actually let us, but that's besides the point). I could never say that I'm a bad test-taker, because no one is, it's just people lack the motivation to do well these days. Including myself. :|
 
akaxrai said:
I must admit, I am a very lazy student. Coincidentally, I did almost flunk Health class, but I did turn up (I've only skipped class... six times in two years, four of them were because they were days that didn't matter like snow days and days before vacations - acutally, the day before Christmas holidays is know around here as International Skipping Day, since no one goes to class and ends up playing Guitar Hero in an empty classroom. The other two times were because my teacher actually let us, but that's besides the point). I could never say that I'm a bad test-taker, because no one is, it's just people lack the motivation to do well these days. Including myself. :|
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That sounds like me and my math class last semester. I got a C in it. If I'd been motivated into doing the homework and studying before the tests, I could've done better. I would've at least gotten a B in that class. The class itself wasn't that hard, although it was certainly the hardest I had that semester; it was just that I didn't know the material enough to do the problems. I kind of feel bad, I never do so bad in Math, usually, and none of it was any harder than I encountered in any other math class, I think. Other than matrices, evil things. ¬¬

A little out there, but I didn't skip class until college, actually. Once was because my first class was a review session (me, review? HA!) and the second class didn't take attendance, another was because I accidentally overslept (well, to be honest, I could've taken the next bus, but I knew I could get away with it), another time was because... well, I wasn't doing anything that day and I felt like it.

It's easier to skip class in college and not feel bad about it, mainly because in high school, you'd always get in trouble for it. Some classes in college don't even take attendance, and for others, they'll be like "You can skip x times before it hurts your grade", and I know I took advantage of that a few times. There was only one class last semester and this semester where people would actually notice I'm gone, too...
 
Jack O'Neill said:
The United States has consistently ranked among the lowest in those assessments; only a few other nations rank lower than America.
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I'm quite amazed by that.

But know that I think about it most Americans probably quit school at 16 to have a shot at fame.

My area in the UK apparently has some of the worst schools in the UK. [Have to a gree with a couple of them schools] I'm glad my chool actually ranks in the top 30 of the UK. [According to Ofsted]

Btw cant the DCC go one week without the topic of education?
 
Obviously not, We were talking about Mulan a few pages back so it is random XD

My school just had ofsted, they didnt do too bad I dont think.
 
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