2nd Gen The Forgotten 4th

Kanto_Johto

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    Anyone else remember Karen of the Elite 4? I almost forgot about her. I actually think her team is one of the best in the Elite 4. She's never been mentioned on any of the preceding games in the advanced Generation and was never in the Anime. Hopefully she'll make her return in HG/SS. I think she's very underated.

    More respect for Karen!
     
    No, but there's a very over-used quote from her.

    "Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites."
     
    I always wondered why she didn't have a Tyranitar... I mean every Uber Pseudo-legendary has been used by a member of the E4 in the generation they were introduced except Tyranitar. Lance used Dragonite, Drake used Salamence, Steven used Metagross, Cynthia uses Garchomp, but no one uses Tyranitar in the second gen E4 despite the fact that there's a trainer that claims to specialize in Dark types right there. >_>
     
    Timbjerr said:
    I always wondered why she didn't have a Tyranitar... I mean every Uber Pseudo-legendary has been used by a member of the E4 in the generation they were introduced except Tyranitar. Lance used Dragonite, Drake used Salamence, Steven used Metagross, Cynthia uses Garchomp, but no one uses Tyranitar in the second gen E4 despite the fact that there's a trainer that claims to specialize in Dark types right there. >_>
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    Maybe it wasn't one of her favorites?
     
    -gasp- She is like, the only one I remember. D: I loved her team (Vileplume is random though) and her design. I was touched by her infamous quote, too. The rest of the Johto Elite 4 were silly guys, lol. The E4 girls usually lack personality, so Karen makes up for that for being so awesome~
     
    dc_united said:
    Maybe it wasn't one of her favorites?
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    haha, gg mate :P

    On topic though, I forgot all about that quote until just now even though I follow its message in all of my competitive teams. >_>
     
    She kicked my arse too many times to count my first time through Silver. Bad memories.
     
    I hated her Umbreon so much, it was always like Confuse ray, sand attack and mega defense. But all her other pokemon were rather easy to beat.

    But does anyone remember Will the psychic E4 in GenII without an Alakazam?
     
    People are sending me reputations saying "Why are you spamming?". I'm not. This is a discussion about, in my opinion, one of the best and most underrated E4 members. Spam would be created a thread that has nothing to do with Pokemon. This does. Think before you say stupid things.

    On topic, I do remember her annoying Umbreon. Much like the Chanseys on FireRed. I often consider copying these strategies.
     
    Valo said:
    No, but there's a very over-used quote from her.

    "Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites."
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    =o

    That's an awesome quote.

    Who over uses it?

    Why didn't I obsess over how awesome it is in the game? I guess I just skip through what people are saying too quickly. Well maybe if they made people say more interesting things...


    Well you have a newfound karen fan on your hands.

    I don't remember battling her though.
     
    Best looking female Trainer sprite ever.

    I remember her. Just forget the name most always, LOL.
     
    I never noticed how short her skirt wuz, lol.

    On my latest play through silver her Houndoom wuz gettin' me even w/ the red Gyrados.
     
    Dunsparce said:
    Vileplume is not Random at all. She Uses both Dark(Umbreon, Murkrow, Houndoom) and Poison(Gengar, Vileplume)

    This was also the Case with Agatha, who used Arbok and Golbat.
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    No, all of Agatha's were poison types.
     
    Kanto_Johto said:
    No, all of Agatha's were poison types.
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    I know that, but also remember FRLG gave her Misdreavus, a pure ghost-type. All of the E4 Members of RGBY/FRLG/GSC Have both a primary type and a secondary type, except for Will.

    Lorelei: Ice and Water(EX: Jynx and Slowbro)

    Bruno: Fighting and Ground (EX: Machamp and Onix/Steelix)

    Agatha: Ghost and Poison(EX: Misdreavus and Golbat/Crobat)

    Lance: Dragon and Flying(EX: Kingdra and Aerodactyl)

    Koga: Poison and Bug (EX: Muk and Forretress)

    Karen: Dark and Poison (EX: Murkrow and Vileplume)

    If you look at their rosters, they ALWAYS use Pokemon from either of those types.
     
    I remember Karen. She was a really easy opponent for me. I guess it was her lack of Dark types. xP
     
    Here's an interesting thought: Maybe in RBY Karen was one of the beauties near Fushia City with an Oddish...
     
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