The Pokemon Anime Supports Homosexuality?

[misty-slave09]

Me and my friend who is also a pokemon fan were watching the episode "Pokemon Fashion Flash" (When Brock recieves Vulpix) on CN the other day and we noticed that when Ash and the gang first walk in the breeding center there seemed to be a homosexual in there getting his Chancey treated.
I could tell because the guy had a girly voice plus his clothes seemed very girlish.

Also there are many times in the anime where Jessie dressed as a dude and James dressed as a girl.

Not to mention Harley is clearly a homosexual.

So my question is do you guys think pokemon supports homosexuality + cross-dressers?

 

[Ariel]

Me and my friend who is also a pokemon fan were watching the episode "Pokemon Fashion Flash" (When Brock recieves Vulpix) on CN the other day and we noticed that when Ash and the gang first walk in the breeding center there seemed to be a homosexual in there getting his Chancey treated.
I could tell because the guy had a girly voice plus his clothes seemed very girlish.

Also there are many times in the anime where Jessie dressed as a dude and James dressed as a girl.

Not to mention Harley is clearly a homosexual.

So my question is do you guys think pokemon supports homosexuality + cross-dressers?

An interesting topic.

But I doubt Nintendo are in support of it.

And as of the characters...it's probably just Character design, adding to the context of the characters, and adding a bit of variety to them.
I doubt Nintendo make them seem Homosexual on purpose, it's probably part of the Japanese culture (no offence, I LOVE Japan). On the "sex" bit, characters barely even hug, let alone kiss or anything else, so Homosexuality isn't really an issue. Only hugging you see often is Ash & Pikachu.

I'd say that Nintendo are in support of people expressing themselves in comfortable and safe ways, so if that means having a male character appear rather feminine, I guess they condone it.

 

[J-Rad]

*gasp* nintendo supports gayness?!?!?!?!

 

[SBaby]

Pokemon itself is supposed to be like an RPG. And since the Anime is based on Pokemon, it means it's based on an RPG. And as we all know, there has to be at least ONE character like that in it. Pokemon has no less than ten.

 

[JX Valentine]

XD I think it's strange that you think this is an exclusive to Pokemon. I mean, seriously. Try to think of one anime show that didn't have some sort of innuendo (in the original, as in, before it gets butchered by dubbers) and then think of how many that do. Sailormoon has canon lesbians, guys that turn into girls when they henshin, and at least one male villain that has crossdressed. (I'm looking at you especially, Zoicite.) Evangelion has Kaworu Nagisa. ('Nuff said.) Ouran High has promoted twincest in nearly every episode, and that's aside from the entire "male cousins going at each other" thing between Honey and Mori. And to get into shows aimed at younger crowds, Fruits Basket has one male character crossdressing because he feels comfortable that way, and I'm pretty sure that there's others that I'm forgetting. The truth of the matter is Japan really doesn't care. It's a different society over there, so what goes on there doesn't necessarily fly all that well over here.

So, really, it's not that they are saying, "We ♥ gays/transvestites." It's just that the Japanese probably find it as normal as seeing a straight girl or boy in media. *shrug*

 

[Wish]

For what I heard, the Japanese consider the men who cross dress as "evil". Of course I may be wrong.

 

[Sweet Candace]

Well then, Harley and James from the first few seasons must've been VERY evil. Well, Pokemon is very unedited, so most of that stuff still gets into the dub version

 

[ChrisG14]

In a nutshell, the Pokemon dub, PUSA or 4Kids, loves ambiguosly gay and camp things. As long as it's not Sailor Moonish Amara/Michelle (though Zoey and Dawn seem kind of like that, heh), Pokemon has loved to throw in inuendo and campiness.

Other examples are James and the "Flaming" Moltres incident, his love for crossdressing, and other amiguos activites. And there was Harley, who was gay with capital letters and rainbows on top.

 

[Nando]

Not to mention Tucker was kinda designed to be a gay stereotype (fairy suit much?)

But we haven't seen anything on a Jakotsu level yet in Pokémon. Call me back when that happens.

 

[Dyegov]

Hasn't anybody else noticed that gays appear more and more all over media? That's the thing with acceptance and tolerance that we all should understand. "gay" is not bad, it's different. People on the media have started to understand that, and that's why we're seeing more of gay characters all over; from anime to talk shows, everywhere!

I personally don't have much problem with it, but I have to admit Harley makes me shudder; I hate him ¬¬

 

[Charaxes]

In fairness to Tucker, PUSA didn't gay him up, yeah.

I'm surprised this hasn't gone into a flame war, pardon the pun. I think the series pokes, but the anime is different from the games, which is painfully straightforward. Besides, James stopped crossdressing while into Johto and only did it a few times since.

Harley, well, he's special. Yes, PUSA gayed him up more than 4Kids/the Japanese writers had done. With the dubs, it's always the original material. Besides, until Dawn/Zoey, no one thought about the lesbian angle. All it's all subtext for a kid's show, to give the adults something, I suppose.

As always, it's only a TV show....

 

[shedinjask]

Other examples are James and the "Flaming" Moltres incident

"Where'd he get that outfit?"
"I think it came right out of his closet."

Flaming Moltres James is <3.

Also, honorary femme!Bashou mention. Either they hired idiots to dub or they were covering up something. The first one seems more likely given the quality of the rest of the episode, but conspiracy theories are always fun.

 

[Daisuke33]

*gasp* nintendo supports gayness?!?!?!?!

That was kinda rude to say man. But well... your young so I guess I can let that slide. I agree with Dyegov that television is becoming more and more appecting and tolerate with Gays, and for that I'm very very glad. If any James crossdressing in Season 1 was rather funny lol I remember laughing when I saw that Banned episode Beauty and the Beach on youtube a couple years ago, which was in Season 1. I'm in complete support of homosexuality, because everyone is special Gay or Striaght so I'm glad that times are changing for the better. I agree I hate Harley with a passion through, he tried time and time again to mess May up during the Hoenn/Kanto contests but always failed XD I wonder what he is going to be up to in Johto? Watch your back out there May! XD

 

[Crystal Clair]

The title of this thread kinda made me wonder if the OP was one of those soccer moms.

Japan's culture is a lot less tight on homosexual issues. They dont have a bible belt or raging soccer moms like we have over here. I see homosexuality in a lot of anime like Azumanga Daioh. Heck, I even see a bit of pedophilia in anime like in Lucky Star and Azumanga Daioh.

btw, I think the whole thing on Hiisu being gay is stupid. He's just a goofy dressing guy, I never got any gay vibes from him.
off topic -
Nando, would you by any chance be the Great Butler from Bulbagarden?

 

[melod.ii ous demyx~♪]

That was kinda rude to say man. But well... your young so I guess I can let that slide.

._. I think they were being sarcastic. ^^;

Anyways,

My view is They neither support nor discriminate against it, but it DOES exist. Incorporating it into a cartoon is no big thing. You can't say they support it if they don't really come out and say it, it stays questionable.

As for any romance, besides some little remarks on fillers, doesn't exist. Brock, I think, is the only one who actually touches a girl by holding a Joy or Jenny's hand sometimes. Ah and James, but him and Jessie are a team.

I don't think James is gay... he's just rich and sheltered =x
Harley, I have no trouble believing that about his sexuality, but I think it fits him quite nicely.
Anyways, the whole point of Pokemon is Acceptance, no?

 

[Nando]

Clair, how did you figure out it was me?

 

[Crystal Clair]

Clair, how did you figure out it was me?

It was partly guts and also because your location and avatar are very similar to your BMGf counterpart. Who else loves Naoshi, Natane and Lila like you do.

 

[Charaxes]

Regarding the last two posts, stick to topic, you two. Heh. Anyway, I didn't infer a thing with James' "Flaming Moltres." I was thinking rebirth and how James always bounces back, and... I suck at subtext. Bah.

 

[lvl99rayquaza]

Me and my friend who is also a pokemon fan were watching the episode "Pokemon Fashion Flash" (When Brock recieves Vulpix) on CN the other day and we noticed that when Ash and the gang first walk in the breeding center there seemed to be a homosexual in there getting his Chancey treated.
I could tell because the guy had a girly voice plus his clothes seemed very girlish.

Also there are many times in the anime where Jessie dressed as a dude and James dressed as a girl.

Not to mention Harley is clearly a homosexual.

So my question is do you guys think pokemon supports homosexuality + cross-dressers?

sure he wasnt a gothic person?

 

[FenderX]

i seriouslly hope not, coause i love pokemon games