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The TV show is sexist!!!!

thorn96

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    Has anyone noticed that the Pokemon TV shows don't involve the boy heros, but they do the females?
    Like how the advance series involves may, but not brendan? and d/p involves dawn, but not lucus? <cough> sexist <cough>
     
    I'm just saying I'd rather characters like Brendan who actually focus on catching Pokemon instead of guys like
    Brock who are meant to be gym leaders, but are always goofing off. Doesn't really work, seeing as Brock is
    a Kanto gym leader and he's travelled to Sinnoh with Ash 0_0
     
    The main character of the anime is a guy.
     
    The show is not sexist, and if anything was going to be sexist about it, it is that with every change of region (except Johto), they have bought in a new girl to replace the other one and then they bring in another one.
     
    No-one sees my point. I'm referring to the games as well. Why don't the guys from the games appear in the show?

    Look, I'd like it if there were more girls in there. It kinda gets boring with that weirdo Ash. Maybe they should bring in a girl
    main character or something? I meant that it's sexist because the dudes from the games would probably make better
    characters than Ash.

    And don't tell me that Ash and Gary and all that are in Fire Red and Leaf Green either. That's Red and Green. Although
    Green does look uncannily like Gary... meh. Maybe I'm just being narrow minded again.
     
    Yes, I see your point now. I believe Lucas and Brendan should have got a bigger part than they did in the movie. All they did was been seen in a battle.

    And when you say Gary looks like Green, Ash looks exactly like Red. They are based off the same characters.

    But I believe they need to stay to one girl, and what I've liked about Diamond and Pearl is that they focus on Dawn alot as well as Ash. Before, it was really all about Ash but Dawn has more chance to shine (or annoy, in some peoples view) than I believe, the other girls did.
     
    This is going to put your sexist theory down.

    Spoiler:
     
    It's sexist because you don't like Ash...? Just because Brendan and Lucas are not main characters (although have had brief cameos in movies) doesn't make it sexist. Yeah, it's a shame they were ignored, but it doesn't make it sexist. If anything, it just shows that Ash is much more important than the girls and the girls are there just as a advertisement for the specific generation.
     
    What do you expect? Jun makes an appearance, Brendan and Lucas made a cameo, and Ash was in every episode. The girls just change and characters from games appear a lot (the guys started making cameos instead of appearances since GS times, but who cares?) Plus, these are two different things, anime and game. They rarely interfere. Except for the female heroine an Jun.
     
    So a show has to have a female lead in order to be not sexist? That's a hell of a lot of sexist shows out there, then (although admittedly, male leads are kind of overdone).
     
    Yeah, if I argued anything about sexism it would be how Brock seems to see women as objects first, THEN trainers/coordinators/policewomen/nurses/whatever. And I wouldn't even argue that bc it's just comedy.
     
    And even then, Brock is kind of a subversion of traditional gender stereotypes himself by taking on "womanly" roles such as cooking.
     
    The non-appearance of the boys isn't quite sexist as Satoshi is a camera whore, and if you brought in anymore boys it would be sexist to girls. Even though that's what most people thing anyways. I'm pretty sure 9/10 people opened this thread thinking it was about the swap-out of girls, threw me for a whirl!
     
    Darkrai Lv.1000 said:
    i know Brendan made a brief cameo in Jirachi: Wishmaker with an Aggron and a Shiftry. Wait Lucas has made a cameo? what movie?
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    The 11th Move, Giratina and the Sky Bouquet. It's not out on DVD so chances are most people havn't seen it.
     
    *im probably gonna be shot for this*

    actually i've noticed that the show is becoming less sexist.

    when the show began the show compleatly revolved around ash, but now the (not so) new heroine (dawn) is getting more attention. well it says so on bulbapedia anyway ._.

    altough i wish they would involve characters like lucas and brendan more... (well more then cameos anyway)
     
    I wouldn't exactly call that sexist, because they already have Brock and Ash, how many boy characters would you want?

    If they didnt' have a female character, they'd be called sexist for not having a female character, and that seems fair.
     
    auragirl said:
    *im probably gonna be shot for this*

    actually i've noticed that the show is becoming less sexist.

    when the show began the show compleatly revolved around ash, but now the (not so) new heroine (dawn) is getting more attention. well it says so on bulbapedia anyway ._.

    altough i wish they would involve characters like lucas and brendan more... (well more then cameos anyway)
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    Err... I won't say that it "Completely revolved" around Ash in the earlier shows, since, if it did, episodes like "Princess vs. Princess", "So near, and yet so Farfetch'd", "Who Gets to keep Togepi", "The Misty Mermaid", "Beauty and the Beach", "Bye, Bye Psyduck", "Go West, young Meowth", "Pokemon Emergency", "Tentacool and Tentacruel", "Pokemon Shipwreck", "The Waterflowers of Cerulean City", "The Mandarin Island Miss Match", "Misty Meets her Match", "Stun Spore Detour", "For Cryin' out loud", "Hook, Line and Stinker", "Trouble's Brewing", "The Joy of Water Pokemon", the majority of the Whirl Islands Arc, "Some Like it Hot", "Gotta Catch Ya Later", "Showdown in Pewter City", "Clefairy and the Moon Stone", "Bulbasaur and the Hidden Village", "Charmander the stray pokemon", "Make room for gloom", "Pokemon Fashion Flash", "Heartbreak of Brock", "To Master the Onixpected", "Poke ball Peril", "A Tents Situation", "The Little Big Horn", "Going Apricorn", "Love Totodile Style", "Hassle in the Castle", "Beauty and the Breeder", "Sick Daze", "Control Freak", "Entei at your own Risk", "Just Waitin' on a friend", "The Totodile Duel", "The Breeding Center Secret", "The Evolution Solution", "Illusion Confusion", and others wouldn't have ever existed. (BTW, it focuses on Misty, Brock, and Team Rocket, and my sources are from both Bulbapedia and the episodes themselves.)

    Now, their not giving Characters like Lucas and Brendan main roles in the series isn't sexist (Though that doesn't mean it isn't pointless, as it IS pointless, as Ash is getting staler by the minute, among other things.). However, their viewing the female characters as being expendible and even going as far as to simply rehash their goals all the time while allowing to keep the same male protagonists, yes, that's undeniably sexist. What's even worse is that Masamitsu Hidaka revealed that the reason why they replaced Misty (and ultimately, why characters like May and Dawn even exist) is for eye-candy/boytoy purposes, which is a very shallow and sexist reason, in and of itself.
     
    Ausaudriel said:
    Um, there's actually always been more male main characters than female ones. Ash, Brock. Tracey. Ash, Max, etc. o_o; The female just changes with each generation, kinda like a handbag. *shot*

    If anything I'd say it's the other way around, and males get more favor. But I think it's silly to think either way. XD It's not sexist.
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    Wanna take it outside Bub,, Lol, Ash and Brock have always bean main heroes:D so I think that is sexist, Bring back Misty!!
     
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