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this a decent enough uber team?

MM_Zero

Resurrected warrior
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    First, I'd like to say hello to everyone first, as this is my first post. 2nd, I decided to make an uber team. I know some natures aren't perfect, but I kept trying to get the good natures, but no one had it. Anyway, here goes


    Latios @ Soul Dew
    Docile / Levitate
    Recover
    Thunder
    Draco Meteor
    Grass Knot
    4 HP, 252 Sp. atk, 252 speed

    Before I say anything, I can't find a speed boosting natured one. Don't yell at me (it has the good fortune of having max speed IVs though.) Anyway, a great start with good type coverage.


    Groudon @ Choice Band
    Adamant / Drought
    Fire Punch
    Dragon Claw
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    252 HP, 214 Atk, 32 Def, 8 speed

    Pretty much used to set up the sun, and inflict some massive damage. It also OHKO's most Blisseys (if not all.)


    Ho-oh @ Choice Band
    Jolly / Pressure
    Sacred Fire
    Return
    Punishment
    Earthquake
    252 Atk, 4 Sp. Def, 252 Speed

    I don't see stealth rock being so much of a threat, and Sacred Fire deals great damage after Groudon's Drought. Earthquake also helps. I could use a move to replace return though.


    Lugia @ Leftovers
    Timid / Pressure
    Roost
    Aeroblast
    Calm Mind
    Ice Beam
    208 HP, 164 Def, 138 Sp. Atk

    Lugia is a well balanced pokemon of mine, and can block physical, special, and can sweep after Calm Mind boosting. The idea is to switch it into things which won't hurt it too bad, and calm mind/roost up. I also made room for Aeroblast, as it does hurt after calm mind.


    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Careful / Serene Grace
    Toxic
    Thunder
    Softboiled
    Ice Beam
    252 HP, 252 Sp. Def, 4 Sp. Atk

    I didn't have too much options, but to take my OU Blissey and change the moves =(. Nevertheless, it completely walls lots of ubers, and the toxic damage does help.


    Arceus @ Life Orb
    Naughty / Multitype (normal type)
    Earthquake
    ExtremeSpeed
    Swords Dance
    Shadow Claw
    252 HP, 252 Attack, 4 speed

    Yes, I consider Arceus to be playable. Its Extremespeed with swords dance does hit very hard, and it also knows shadow claw to help against
    Lugia and Giratina. I'm also thinking about giving it Iron plate to counter Rayquaza, but I'm not sure, so help me out here.

    • Have a special wall? Yes (Lugia, Blissey)
    • Have a physical wall? Yes (Lugia)
    • Have a special sweeper? Yes (Latios, Lugia)
    • Have a physical sweeper? Yes (Groudon, Ho-oh, Arceus)
    • Have resistances to Dragon, Ice, Electric, Psychic, Dark, Ghost, Bug, Fighting, Ground, Water, Fire, Steel and Rock? The team resists them all (in a way)
    • Have a Spinner? No, but I don't think many people use stealth rock in ubers (correct me if I'm wrong, just I haven't seen it on any vids yet, or on teams.
    • Have a phazer? No
    • Have a weather changer? Yes (Groudon)
    • Have a Spiker/Stealth Rocker? No
    • Have a sleep talker? No =(
    Welp there we have it. I kinda wanted a unique team with my favorite ubers, and as from what I see, lots of people use different pokes then mine. I know my team probably needs a lot of fixes, so post away.
     
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    Go to the S&M forum, where you will get better advice and comments since they are more experience.
    and this is the wrong place to post this =/
     
    Oh ok, i thought this was the right one, because I saw another thread about wi-fi teams here.
     
    MM_Zero said:
    Oh ok, i thought this was the right one, because I saw another thread about wi-fi teams here.
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    yes, since poeple dont read rules or think where they are posting. so you can get a mod to move this thread for you =]
     
    Before this gets moved, why don't you have Judgement on Arceus?!
    Would make a great STAB attack.
     
    My Arceus is a physical variant, so Judgment wouldn't hit that hard. I have extremespeed for STAB
     
    Careful lowers Special Attack IIRC. Use Calm > Careful on Blissey to not reduce Ice Beam and Thunder's BP... lol
     
    alright, I'll put that into mind, but as I said, I had trouble getting the ones with a good nature.
     
    MM_Zero said:
    Latios @ Soul Dew
    Docile / Levitate
    Recover
    Thunder
    Draco Meteor
    Grass Knot
    4 HP, 252 Sp. atk, 252 speed

    AHEM TIMID !! , but yeah, looks fine.


    Groudon @ Choice Band
    Adamant / Drought
    Fire Punch
    Dragon Claw
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    252 HP, 214 Atk, 32 Def, 8 speed

    Cool


    Ho-oh @ Choice Band
    Jolly / Pressure
    Sacred Fire
    Return
    Punishment
    Earthquake
    252 Atk, 4 Sp. Def, 252 Speed

    ANOTHER Choice Bander ?


    Lugia @ Leftovers
    Bold / Pressure
    Roost
    Whirlwind / Toxic
    Reflect
    Ice Beam
    208 HP, 164 Def, 138 Sp. Atk

    Blegh @ calm mind, Reflect and its support movepool is much better. and help more against Rayquaza etc.


    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Calm / Natural Cure
    Calm Mind / Psych UP
    Thunder
    Softboiled
    Ice Beam / Icy Wind
    252 DEF / 252 SP.DEF /6 HP


    You NEED Calm mind or Psych up on Bliss in ubers or other Calm Minders just go OLOL. E.g Lati@s. I find Ice Wind it awesome to slow stuff down, which is cool for team support.


    Arceus @ Life Orb
    Naughty / Multitype (normal type)
    Earthquake
    ExtremeSpeed
    Swords Dance
    Shadow Claw
    252 HP, 252 Attack, 4 speed

    Yep
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    Comments in bold.

    This looks nice, although i would maybe make Groudon Swords Dance, 2 choice bander's are blegh.

    And i would get a + speed Nature Lati@s, so you can outspeed Jolly Palkia, Groudon etc and the increasing Garchomp. Jibaku's Timid Latias is in mass circulation, especially in and around smogon so you could try and get hold of one of those.
     
    Alright, I'll change Groudon to swords dance. Although I personally prefer Latios over Latias though =/.
     
    MM_Zero said:
    Alright, I'll change Groudon to swords dance. Although I personally prefer Latios over Latias though =/.
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    No one said anything about replacing Latios. Lati@s is the term used for both.

    You really can't do anything to a Physical Kyogre as soon as your Lugia is gone. Blissey can try, but her defense makes it harder to get rid of Kyogre.

    By the way, stats don't determine whether or not a Pokemon is a wall. Some are natural walls, like Blissey, but your Lugia is not a wall as its EVs and moves are sweeping. Its def stats are nice, but most uber stats are.
     
    MM_Zero said:
    First, I'd like to say hello to everyone first, as this is my first post. 2nd, I decided to make an uber team. I know some natures aren't perfect, but I kept trying to get the good natures, but no one had it. Anyway, here goes


    Latios @ Soul Dew
    Timid / Levitate
    Recover
    Thunder
    Draco Meteor
    Grass Knot
    4 HP, 252 Sp. atk, 252 speed

    Before I say anything, I can't find a speed boosting natured one. Don't yell at me (it has the good fortune of having max speed IVs though.) Anyway, a great start with good type coverage.

    Well, I would look for a different nature. =p I'm not to sure on the EV's, but it looks ok. At least you're not an idiot and use Psychic like most others out there. :)


    Groudon @ Choice Band
    Adamant / Drought
    Fire Punch
    Dragon Claw
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    252 HP, 214 Atk, 32 Def, 8 speed

    Pretty much used to put out the sun, and inflict some massive damage. It also OHKO's most Blisseys (if not all.)

    Groudon doesn't put out sun...lol. SD/Bulk Up can go over Earthquake if you like, as it's only really necessary for Heatran.

    Ho-oh @ Choice Band
    Jolly / Pressure
    Sacred Fire
    Return
    Punishment
    Earthquake
    252 Atk, 4 Sp. Def, 252 Speed

    I don't see stealth rock being so much of a threat, and Sacred Fire deals great damage after Groudon's Drought. Earthquake also helps. I could use a move to replace return though.

    Fine.


    Lugia @ Leftovers
    Bold / Pressure
    Roost
    Reflect / Light Screen
    Whirlwind
    Ice Beam
    208 HP, 164 Def, 138 Sp. Atk

    Lugia is a well balanced pokemon of mine, and can block physical, special, and can sweep after Calm Mind boosting. The idea is to switch it into things which won't hurt it too bad, and calm mind/roost up. I also made room for Aeroblast, as it does hurt after calm mind.

    Lugia shouldn't be used as a Calm Minder. Reflect/Light Screen depending on how you run it. Whirlwind lets you phaze our problematic stat uppers like Groudon.


    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Calm / Serene Grace
    Toxic
    Thunder
    Softboiled
    Ice Beam / Icy Wind
    200 HP, 92 Sp. Atk, 216 Sp. Def

    I didn't have too much options, but to take my OU Blissey and change the moves =(. Nevertheless, it completely walls lots of ubers, and the toxic damage does help.


    Arceus @ Life Orb
    Adamant / Multitype (normal type)
    Earthquake
    ExtremeSpeed
    Swords Dance
    Shadow Claw / Overheat
    252 HP, 252 Attack, 4 speed

    Yes, I consider Arceus to be playable. Its Extremespeed with swords dance does hit very hard, and it also knows shadow claw to help against
    Lugia and Giratina. I'm also thinking about giving it Iron plate to counter Rayquaza, but I'm not sure, so help me out here.

    Extreme-Killer ftw! Adamant please and Overheat should be an option to counter Forretress, and you won't need to worry about the Sp. Atk drop cause you won't be using it all that often.

    • Have a special wall? Yes (Lugia, Blissey)
    • Have a physical wall? Yes (Lugia)
    • Have a special sweeper? Yes (Latios, Lugia)
    • Have a physical sweeper? Yes (Groudon, Ho-oh, Arceus)
    • Have resistances to Dragon, Ice, Electric, Psychic, Dark, Ghost, Bug, Fighting, Ground, Water, Fire, Steel and Rock? The team resists them all (in a way)
    • Have a Spinner? No, but I don't think many people use stealth rock in ubers (correct me if I'm wrong, just I haven't seen it on any vids yet, or on teams.
    • Have a phazer? No
    • Have a weather changer? Yes (Groudon)
    • Have a Spiker/Stealth Rocker? No
    • Have a sleep talker? No =(
    Welp there we have it. I kinda wanted a unique team with my favorite ubers, and as from what I see, lots of people use different pokes then mine. I know my team probably needs a lot of fixes, so post away.
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    I haven't rated an Uber team in ages, so I've sorta forgotten the major counters etc. You'll have to wait for the likes of Ooka and...Aquilae perhaps, as they are the ones I know have knowledge in this area. (I think Aquilae, otherwise Dark_Azelf)

    ~T_S
     
    What was i going to suggest, oh thats right, you have no status absorber.

    Id personally, contrary to what i suggested as i didnt see it yesterday, make Groudon Rest-Talk, so you at least have something to take status, from Darkrai etc.

    Groudon@Leftovers
    252 HP / 176 Def / 80 Sp.D
    Impish nature
    - Shadow Claw / Dragon Claw
    - Earthquake
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
     
    What I actually was gunna do for a Darkrai counter was make Ho-oh forget return and give it sleep talk. Sacred Fire should OHKO most Darkrais, and Earthquake should nearly kill them.
     
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