UU in OU?

[Get Away From That Outlet Pikachu!]

I made a UU team recently but I found it fared better in OU than UU, some I'd like input on how I can make it better :)

*pokemonelite2000 image removed*
Ambipom @ Life Orb
Ability : Technician
Nature: Jolly
EV's: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

~ Double Hit
~ Payback
~ Fake Out
~ U-Turn

This guy is awesome, he comes in, uses Fake Out, then, when most people expect a U-Turn, he uses Double Hit, Double Hit is better than Return imo, because it can break Substitutes and such.

*pokemonelite2000 image removed*
Uxie @ Leftovers
Ability : Levitate
Nature: Relaxed
EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def/ 4 SpD

~ U-Turn
~ Thunderbolt
~ Stealth Rock
~ Yawn

This is who Ambipom usually U-Turns to, this guy is awesome, has great defenses, and gets rocks up, afterwards he usually Yawns and gets outta there.

*pokemonelite2000 image removed*
Manectric @ Petaya Berry
Ability : Static
Nature: Timid
EV's: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

~ Thunderbolt
~ Substitute
~ Hidden Power [Grass]
~ Flamethrower

Special sweeper, usually throws up a sub and fires off Thunderbolts, HP grass is there for those Rock/Ground and Water/Ground Pokes, Flamethrower for Grass and Steel types.

"image removed"
Flygon @ Choice Band
Ability : Levitate
Nature: Lonely
EV's: 252 Atk / 80 SpA / 176 Spe

~ Earthquake
~ Outrage
~ Fire Blast
~ U-Turn

Flygon, outclasses Absol and adds a much needed Thunder Wave absorber to the team, this guy is an absolute monster, STAB Choice Banded Earthquakes and Outrages are not a fun thing for many Pokemon, and U-Turn allows me to scout counters while still getting a decent hit on much of the OU metagame.

"image removed"
Poliwrath @ Leftovers
Ability : Water Absorb
Nature : Relaxed
EV's : 252 HP / 52 Atk / 110 Def / 96 SpA

~ Brick Break
~ Hidden Power [Electric]
~ Toxic
~ Waterfall

My team was extremely Tyranitar weak so in came Poliwrath, this is DA's set recommended by Pokedra, Toxic because I don't like Hypnosis' shaky accuracy, takes care of Tyranitar and to a certain extent Gyarados, as it can come in on its main STAB attack without fail.

*pokemonelite2000 image removed*
Azelf @ Life Orb
Ability : Levitate
Nature: Timid
EV's: 6 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

~ Psychic
~ Nasty Plot
~ Flamethrower
~ Grass Knot

Whereas Espeon was lowering SP.Def, Azelf will be boosting it's Sp.A making it a lot easier to pull off a sweep, this set does great damage to a lot of the metagame, STAB Psychic after a NP boost threatens to even 3HKO that fat blob Blissey.

There you have it bringing UU up to OU, as always any competent advice is always appreciated.

 

[Dark Azelf]

You might aswell keep this just to UU, because you know, everything is either outclassed or just metagame weak in ou here so yeah. =/

 

[J-Rad]

I'd go with what D_A said. An OU team with one or two UU's can work wonders, but a whole team of them in OUs are just downright suckish. I've seen way too many people who use UU teams in OU just endup getting squashed.

But if you insist; nothing can really switch into Hera, Megahorn destroys Uxie,Espeon, and Absol while Close Combat destroys Tauros and Ambipom and can probably OHKO Manectric, so nothing can really switch into it...

 

[revelp8]

DA is right. there is a reason why they split UU and OU.

Other than manetric getting the petaya boost, it gets completely walled by bronzong

 

[Jake♫]

*pokemonelite2000 image removed*
Tauros @ Choice Band
Ability : Intimidate
Nature: Intimidate
EV's: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

~ Return
~ Earthquake
~ Stone Edge
~ Zen Headbutt

This guy surprises me alot, he can survive a +1 Outrage from DDKingdra, which is useful when they think they can set up in my face. A STAB Return backed by Choice Band is rather scary, he can put a huge dent in many things.

You mean Adamant, right :P

Anyways, as stated, Heracross murders you pretty easily, so stick to UU

I'll probably come back for a full rate later

 

[Get Away From That Outlet Pikachu!]

You mean Adamant, right :P

Anyways, as stated, Heracross murders you pretty easily, so stick to UU

I'll probably come back for a full rate later

Yea, >< I meant Adamant,

as to everyone else, I know that UU and OU are supposed to be split, but I would rather have this team be improved, I don't mind using a few OU pokes, but I'd rather work this team out than scrap this because I was too lazy to work on it.

 

[.]

Using UU in OU was, is, and never will be cool. No one cares that you're using "less viable Pokemon in a stronger metagame". It's been done to death, and people NEVER seem to get the simple fact that if something is less viable than something else, you shouldn't use it because it's inferior. I just felt the need to say that.

Anyway, I'm gonna give you an OU rate since you wanted it. You have one of the biggest LO Dragon Dance Tyranitar weaks I've ever seen. It outruns your entire team, and pretty much KOs them all with Stone Edge / Crunch / Earthquake. Tauros has a slight chance to live, but it can't switch in, and takes an load from Stone Edge anyways. Uxie gets destroyed by Crunch, and doesn't do anything back (bar...Yawn, which sucks as a move since it basically lets the opponent get a free hit on you). Because of this, you need some form of insurance. Personally, I'd add a Poliwrath over something here:

Poliwrath @ Leftovers
Relaxed
252 HP / 52 Atk / 110 Def / 96 SpA
-Brick Break
-HP Electric
-Hypnosis / Toxic.
-Waterfall / Ice Punch

Yep, D_A's set. Counters Tyranitar and Gyarados to an extent, and also helps with Rain Dance enemies such as Kabutops and Qwilfish.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Scizor, Lucario and Salamence also rip you to shreds. Shove in a revenge killer like Scarf Jirachi or something. (Fire Punch/Ice Punch/Iron head/U-Turn or Zen Headbutt @Jolly max speed + att @ scarf)

In addition Blissey cripples your entire team with Thunderwave. Get an immunity like Mamosine or Flygon or something. =/ Tauros is just no, hasnt been remotely good since RBY possibly GSC lol...Zangoose, Granbull etc totally outclass it. It cant do anything to the omnipresent steel types in ou. Id personally put said T-Wave immunity >> it.

I also dont see what this teams strategy is, how do you sweep ? Seems to me you just get walled badly.

I guess you could slap a CB on Absol and use Pursuit for blissey etc this would at least give you a chance of opening up a sweep for Manectric. (Who is actually sadly outclassed by MixVire lol =/)

If you want Pursuit weak poke that can actually sweep and outclasses espy use NP Azelf >> it please. (Totally unbias btw)

There is only so much you can do with a team like this, ou wise.

I HIGHLY advise you dont use this in ou and just stick to UU. Since this team has more potential there.

 

[Pokedra]

UU doesn't work in OU, trust me :) I'm the idiot who tried to ladder on Smogon with a Feebas.

Anyways, SD Luke mauls you over, nothing in you team can take a hit from it after an SD. DDTar massacres you after a DD. CB Scizor eats this alive.

First of all maybe throw in something like ScarfGar or ScarfTran over Espeon as they can revenge-kill threats that would kill this team. Throw in a suicide lead over Amipbom like Aerodactyl, Azelf etc

To be honest even if you do place these Pokemon in, this team won't work in OU. =/

 

[Get Away From That Outlet Pikachu!]

And there we go, I added in the Thunder Wave resist, got myself a Tyranitar counter and switched out Espeon for NP Azelf. Anything else this team needs?

 

[Nitrous Oxide]

Eh, I find my UU team does well in OU because people aren't really expecting certain things. It takes a lot of skill in reading your opponent and tricking them and quite a bit of luck though.

 

[Samson]

drop double hit on ambipom for something more productive like taunt/twave. i don't see anything remarkable in the fact that it breaks subs when it'll probably get KO'd by mediocre, nuetral damage when anything can set up rocks on it, and it'll consistently rack up damage w/ life orb and constant switching. i mean, really, you've set it up to just die. at least let it die without putting the rest of your team in jeopardy.

gosh does that manectric get walled. mixed raichu or lb pika would probably do your team more good and they both kinda suck. there are some really annoying Rotom-form sub sets that your team could probably benefit from to handle explosion. wouldn't be a bad idea tho that would give your team a bit of a ghost weak.