Vaporeon or Sylveon?

[DeiWildcat]

I made this team today, and have been testing it out on Pokemon Showdown. I'm not sure if I want to change my Vaporeon for Sylveon. My Vaporeon hasn't been doing bad, but I was wondering if Sylveon might be better for my overall team. Here's a list of my team and their moves and stats.

1. Vaporeon @ Leftovers
   Ability: Water Absorb
   EVs: 120 HP / 56 Def / 80 SAtk / 252 SDef
   Calm Nature
   - Wish
   - Protect
   - Scald
   - Acid Armor
   
   Scolipede @ Black Sludge
   Ability: Speed Boost
   EVs: 248 HP / 208 SDef / 52 Spd
   Jolly Nature
   - Substitute
   - Swords Dance
   - Baton Pass
   - Megahorn
   
   Pinsir @ Pinsirite
   Ability: Moxie
   EVs: 252 Atk / 132 Def / 124 Spd
   Adamant Nature
   - Earthquake
   - Quick Attack
   - Return
   - Swords Dance
   
   Mandibuzz @ Leftovers
   Ability: Overcoat
   EVs: 188 HP / 252 Def / 56 SDef / 12 Spd
   IVs: 0 Atk
   - Foul Play
   - Knock Off
   - Defog
   - Roost
   
   Goodra @ Choice Specs
   Ability: Gooey
   EVs: 36 HP / 136 Def / 252 SAtk / 84 SDef
   Modest Nature
   - Draco Meteor
   - Fire Blast
   - Sludge Bomb
   - Thunderbolt
   
   Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
   Ability: Poison Heal
   EVs: 60 HP / 196 Atk / 216 Def / 36 Spd
   Impish Nature
   - Stealth Rock
   - Roost
   - U-turn
   - Earthquake

Any help would be very appreciated.

 

[PlatinumDude]

Acid Armor only sees use on Baton Pass teams. This team isn't Baton Pass from the looks of things. Vaporeon is better off simply Wish-healing the team:
-Wish
-Protect
-Scald
-Ice Beam/Toxic/Roar
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb

What's the point of Mandibuzz's EV spread? Sometimes the standard spread is the best spread if your EV spread doesn't accomplish anything. If you intend to use Knock Off on it, use an Impish nature, so that Knock Off's power isn't ruined:
-Foul Play
-Roost
-Taunt/Whirlwind
-Knock Off/Defog/Toxic
Nature: Impish/Bold
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Overcoat

The thing I said about Mandibuzz also applies to Goodra. What KOs does it avoid with your spread?:
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast
-Thunderbolt/Sludge Bomb
-Focus Blast/Dragon Tail
Nature: Modest/Quiet
EVs: 248 HP/252 SAtk/8 SDef
Item: Choice Specs/Assault Vest
Ability: Gooey/Sap Sipper

Once again, what applies to Mandibuzz and Goodra also applies to Gliscor. The preferred EV spread is 244 HP/40 Def/224 Spe. This lets it outspeed Jolly/Timid Lucario and other base 90 Speed Pokemon.

 

[DeiWildcat]

Acid Armor only sees use on Baton Pass teams. This team isn't Baton Pass from the looks of things. Vaporeon is better off simply Wish-healing the team:
-Wish
-Protect
-Scald
-Ice Beam/Toxic/Roar
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb

What's the point of Mandibuzz's EV spread? Sometimes the standard spread is the best spread if your EV spread doesn't accomplish anything. If you intend to use Knock Off on it, use an Impish nature, so that Knock Off's power isn't ruined:
-Foul Play
-Roost
-Taunt/Whirlwind
-Knock Off/Defog/Toxic
Nature: Impish/Bold
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Overcoat

The thing I said about Mandibuzz also applies to Goodra. What KOs does it avoid with your spread?:
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast
-Thunderbolt/Sludge Bomb
-Focus Blast/Dragon Tail
Nature: Modest/Quiet
EVs: 248 HP/252 SAtk/8 SDef
Item: Choice Specs/Assault Vest
Ability: Gooey/Sap Sipper

Once again, what applies to Mandibuzz and Goodra also applies to Gliscor. The preferred EV spread is 244 HP/40 Def/224 Spe. This lets it outspeed Jolly/Timid Lucario and other base 90 Speed Pokemon.

Thanks for you input. I definitely took some of your suggestions, and can see an improvement.

I was trying pick stuff that would best compliment them for the job I was assigning the particular mon. The only thing is that you didn't answer my main question. Do you think I should switch out Vaporeon for Sylveon with a similar set? Reason I ask, is that right now my team as big weakness toward electric types. I figured Sylveon would help my coverage and overall team synergy.

 

[Nah]

Your team isn't that weak to electric attacks since Gliscor is immune and Goodra resists it.

Both Sylveon and Vaporeon are good, but I don't really think that one is better for your team than the other. If you want to test Sylveon out and see if its better for your team than Vaporeon, use this:

-Sylveon w/Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 252 HP, 244 Defense, 12 Speed or Sp.Attack, I don't remember which goes in there
Moves: Wish, Protect, Hyper Voice, Heal Bell/Toxic

That performs a similar function to the Vaporeon set Platinum posted (which is the Vaporeon set you should use). Try 'em both out, see what happens.

 

[PlatinumDude]

Thanks for you input. I definitely took some of your suggestions, and can see an improvement.

I was trying pick stuff that would best compliment them for the job I was assigning the particular mon. The only thing is that you didn't answer my main question. Do you think I should switch out Vaporeon for Sylveon with a similar set? Reason I ask, is that right now my team as big weakness toward electric types. I figured Sylveon would help my coverage and overall team synergy.

Your team isn't that weak to electric attacks since Gliscor is immune and Goodra resists it.

Both Sylveon and Vaporeon are good, but I don't really think that one is better for your team than the other. If you want to test Sylveon out and see if its better for your team than Vaporeon, use this:

-Sylveon w/Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 252 HP, 244 Defense, 12 Speed or Sp.Attack, I don't remember which goes in there
Moves: Wish, Protect, Hyper Voice, Heal Bell/Toxic

That performs a similar function to the Vaporeon set Platinum posted (which is the Vaporeon set you should use). Try 'em both out, see what happens.

Must've forgotten about that. I second Zekrom; I don't think one is better than the other. Think about this: do you want Vaporeon's bigger Wishes, or Sylveon's stronger offensive presence? Also, the spread should be 252 HP/244 Def/12 Spe. That lets Sylveon outspeed Tyranitar.