Suggestion: vBexperience system

[Azonic]

After supporting bringing rep back and having the general member populace abuse it for a second time, I'm going to have to give a hearty no here. You can argue spam'll only happen at first, and over time less and less people will abuse it, but those are all arguments we used for rep abuse when we decided to bring it back. We need to learn from history, and as history shows: introducing something that separates members further into "ranks" is not a good idea.

This would be a safer alternative imo. What problems could possibly erupt from this though? It promotes activity, and you can't get "negged" or anything like it (which is what everyone complained about in the rep system). No more "exchange cliques" because you sacrifice your own exp. points to give them to someone else. That's my take on it. :x

Why not just use it without any "perks"? Crazy idea I know.

I like this.

If it's gonna be used, show it in the statistics tab imo. Its way too ugly to be in the same table as my ~pretty~ posts.

 

[parallelzero]

Um David.

You do know rep was very easy to abuse, right? Spread <number here> of rep and I can totally give that person like 60+ rep points! Awesome! I can repeat this 9001 times for some epic results.

Postcount on the other hand, can only be abused through spamming. There's a difference, y'know.

I deal with posting and dealt with rep enough to realize the difference, but thanks anyways.

Clearly you missed the point of my post, as I wasn't lumping them in to be abused in a similar manner, I was just stating that if it can be abused, it will be. That's what PC members have proven on multiple occasions in the past and my reasoning for being against the idea.

 

[Feign]

Installing this would conflict with a future addon I have in the works for PC.

Just saying.

That and the addition might require more moderating in terms of deleting posts. :)

 

[Tyrantrum]

That's a pretty bad-ass feature. :D

Now I know what that was on Audy's post statistics.

 

[Axєl]

Installing this would conflict with a future addon I have in the works for PC.

Just saying.

Well that pretty much settles it.. xD;

Ah well.. I can see it causing a lot of issues, mainly because of people complaining, or pointlessly hating on others due to rank. Also, the post bits be already have are pretty full/busy already, IMO. On a smaller forum I think it would be a neat idea, and fun to mess with.. but I think it would cause problems here. D:

Not that it matters, I suppose.

 

[.Seth]

Don't forget about all that extra work the server has to do to calculate the exp level for each postbit.
Times that by all the active users and how many open tabs/windows they're viewing postbit's on.

 

[beauty. proletariat]

The problem I have is that all of the ways to earn points seem to be quite easily exploitable:

- Days online: there areplenty of people who join, disappear for years, and then come back much later

Yes, but there are also loads of people who join, but lurk around looking for threads are worth their time to post in. These members do require recognition. Joining, dissapearing for years and coming back... They wont be online during that time period, no one cares. They moved on, we moved on.

- Social group members: I can see a lot of "everybody join this group to get loads of points" groups forming

I'm pretty sure with that huge weeding out of the social groups, it was obvious that random social groups cannot be created. Also, we can have a social group moderation thing... To create a group; get SMod+ Approval.

- Friends: plenty of people already send random friend requests to EVERYBODY they see and most newbs will accept them.

No comment. I know this is a problem. It can be avoided by leaving friends out of the rep calculation.

- VMs: people could spam their own profiles

Warning for spamming own profile. Or, self-comments aren't counted, only those by other people.

- Album pictures: i see lots and LOTS of uploading random pictures for no reason other than to earn points.

:/ Leave it out, or moderate it.

- referrals: ...hmm...I'm not sure if that could be abused much, actually. Unless people referred themselves under several different usernames

Correct. Referring yourself under different usernames however, breaks a rule. So its already blanketed.

- completing profiles: similar to pictures, people would just spam every section with one or two random letters and cash in their points.

I dont get your message. i.e. it makes no sense.

Experience system is a wonderful system full of magic pixies and fairy dust. We can set up a username changing system, where after x points, you get to change your username, this would (i think) remove/reduce the work of Audy and Cowrie (hooray break for u guyz).

Experience system can be another way to benefit PC with money.

I've seen it being used as a way to bring in money; e.g. 500 points for 5 dollars. Hate your name? Havent got enough points yet? Trade money for points! etc. etc. etc.

Experience system is NOT limited by post counts etc.

Say a thread, or a blog post someone made, reached 200 posts / replies, or more, we can reward this with, additional experience points.

Though it would probably require a sub-forum under Q&F, the questions and help can also be managed by the members.

 

[Spinor]

We'll maybe some of this would be fine, but I would recommend strict rules if it was implemented *coughnowhiningcough*

And if that thing is gonna conflict with whatever Audy's up to isn't it possible to edit some code to hopefully avoid that?

 

[Melody]

Well...Let's wait and see what Audy has in the works first. Chances are, that if he's concerned that the aforementioned addon will conflict with his code, it probably means that addon will be redundant in some ways.

That being said, I am against the whole system. It's just so easily exploitable. Even if we disable the points for VM/SG/Blog/Album/Profile postings, it will create more motivation to make senseless posts, generally post-***** and a number of other "technically not against the rules but common sense" violations. (Seriously, we don't want PC to go all draconian like SPPf) D8

 

[beauty. proletariat]

Well...Let's wait and see what Audy has in the works first. Chances are, that if he's concerned that the aforementioned addon will conflict with his code, it probably means that addon will be redundant in some ways.

That being said, I am against the whole system. It's just so easily exploitable. Even if we disable the points for VM/SG/Blog/Album/Profile postings, it will create more motivation to make senseless posts, generally post-***** and a number of other "technically not against the rules but common sense" violations. (Seriously, we don't want PC to go all draconian like SPPf) D8

o.o youre a supporter... you should already know

And the thing is, then we should completely discount post count aswell as it also is something people will exploit, no wait, we should bar all members from accessing PC because it may cause someone to go through emotional pain; trust me, Ive seen it happen. :/ You cant deny something because it can be exploited. You try it, and depending on if you can handle it or not, you keep it or throw it away.

 

[Soul Eater]

HAHAHAHAHA wut

Yeah... I know it sounds cool but it seems similar to the rep system. I think it would still get abused in some form or another. People would find away around it and start complaining about bad comments and whatever. D:

 

[Mitchman]

lolwut? Audy has a few special priveleges, he's allowed to do annoying things. xD And, like Parallelines said, just because Audy does it doesn't mean we should all jump on the bandwagon and create a wall of condensed WTF, you know?

Yes i know that. I just pointed out Audy's thing as an example as I do not have access to vbulletin images and I was wondering out of curiosity if that is something like this is all about or not.

 

[Taziko]

To be honest, I don't find this addon much of an amazment that leads members to argue among each other. I'm more looking forward to what Audy has in store for use because his/her addons seem to be more presonal and to do with this forum (that is if he/she made the Emblem system). I just think that vBexpirence makes and forum look a bit like a MMO forum which is not good on most accounts since we're, well, not.