Wanna try this team out

Yeah, and either of them would allow you to not get murdered by MixApe, which as of now, you would....
 
So Grumpig it is.

Seriously, Wigglytuff with Focus Punch & FLING?
 
sims796 said:
So Grumpig it is.

Seriously, Wigglytuff with Focus Punch & FLING?
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Fling is because it lost physical Shadow Ball.
Trust me, I tried it, it worked out great. 140 Base HP is great for subs.
 
sims796 said:
Ninjask@Leftovers
Nature:Jolly
Substitute
Swords Dance
Baton Pass
X-Scizzor
EV:176 HP / 252 Atk / 80 Spe

I needed a speed passer to compliment Ursaring, so I thought Ninjask, who, if I have the time, can alsos pass SD. I swiped the EV spread straight from Smogon, so if it's wrong, correct me.

Jask usually draws a phazer in first turn as it completely shuts Jask down. Ursaring is not fast enough to completely make use of the speed boost, as after an Agility and Max Speed, Infernape still outruns it.
I think another Twaver should be added into here, as spreading paralysis really helps Ursaring.


Wigglytuff@Leftovers
Nature:Calm
Wish
Thunder Wave
Focus Blast/Hyper Voice/Thunderbolt
Reflect/Light Screen
EV:32 HP, 226 Def, 252 Sp.Def or 252 HP, 252 Sp.Def

I did some calcs. With this spread, not even Ttar's EQ can OHKO, just barely comming up to an 2HKO. However, with the second EV spread (& Light Screen) she becomes a viable Sp.Wall. I don't know what it's worth, but with the second spread, she eats up Porygon Z's Hyper Beam, or even HP Fighting. Thunder Wave can cripple certain switch-ins, and with Fake Tears, I can either force switches, or have a chance to strike back. Hard. I should say, I had Heatran, Gengar, & Porygon Z in mind when I made this set.

Another criticism on the trivia please don't kill me =(. Porygon-Z's HP Fight is outclassed by Adaptibility Tri-Attack (140 vs. 160), so it won't be better unless it has got Download.
I suggest the first spread with more emphasis on Defence, and with Charm and/or Counter, to weaken physical threats switching in.


Vileplume@Black Sludge
Nature:Calm
Energy Ball
HP [ICE]
Aromatherapy
Sleep Powder
EV:244 HP, 80 Sp.Atk, 146 Sp.Def, 30 Def

Sorry, he's in almost every team I make. I can't exactly remember my EV spread.

Okay, I haven't really used Vileplume before so I can't comment.


Ursarang@Flame Orb
Nature:Adamant
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Facade
Night Slash/Shadow Claw
EV:252 Atk, 252 Spd

Hah! Beat this, Hera! It's raw power is unmatched my only Slaking, and it leaves destruction in it's wake! I might be exaggerating a bit...

IMO, Quick Feet > Guts, since a lot of stuff outruns Ursaring without Quick Feet, and it shouldn't be dead weight once Ninjask is down.
Maybe Fire Punch and Earthquake > Close Combat and Stone Edge, as many of the pokemon that do not resist Facade are covered by it (Steels and Rocks).
SD could go over Crunch if you enjoy running about with 700+ Attack,
Steelix@Leftovers
Nature:Impish
Stealth Rock
EQ
Rest
Stone Edge/Toxic
EV:???

I need help on this. I've decided, eh, why not use one? I'd like it to have SR, please. But I need help on it's EV spread. I can go Rest. I have a Wishpasser, but it's less reliable then Vileplume, who has Aromatherapy.

No Gyro Ball or Explosion? =(
Rest is okay with Aromatherapy, Stone Edge > Toxic since Steelix won't be there for long with its unfortunate weaknesses.
Meh, I'm just going to take the Standard Evs from Smogon =D
252 HP/120 Atk/136 SpD
Typlosion@Choice Scarf
Nature:Modest
Eruption/Overheat
Focus Blast
Flamethrower
HP [ICE]
EV:Max Sp.Atk & Spd

It has craptasic Spd, but it's shiny with great stats elsewhere.

So, this is my proposed team. With Plosion here, I sould get a spinner, right? Oh, and the first person to say "scrap Wigglytuff", can burn in hell.

Sorry to the mods, for making too many threads at once. But this seems sound.
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Like many of the other people who posted before me, I agree with the lack of special walling. I also feel an overeliance on Jask's passes to Ursaring, since sans Typhlosion and Ursaring, none of the pokemon in your team are really powerful.

Gorebyss said:
Fling is because it lost physical Shadow Ball.
Trust me, I tried it, it worked out great. 140 Base HP is great for subs.
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Wigglytuff isn't going to use Fling for anything since it is already a weak move. 140 HP is good for subs, but using it on Wiggly with low defences isn't good unless you're up against a Blissey.
The only instance where I would see this work is up against a Blissey.
And BTW, Blissey outspeeds Wigglytuff.
 
I wouldn't have steelix unless you used ev's on his special defense or got his SpD up some other way. His defense might be really good but ive got a steelix and his SpD is shocking. One Fireblast/eruption or any other strong fire attack and he'd be a goner. I had a steelix once and the same thing happend to me. I thort that he might be gud in a pack but didnt do all that much research into him and i went into a comp and steelix got snapped. So yea i just dont want anyone else making the same mistake i did.
 
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The hell! WHO LEAVES STEELIX IN ON A FIRE MOVE?! Or ANY sp.sweepers for that manner? Is Blissey bad all ofva sudden?!

I am sick of the quality of help that always seems to come to MY threads.

Thanks to Aquillae, Dark Azelf, ABYAY, Ooka, Anti-Pop, King T & silver (to an extent). The rest, especially those pitiful Wiggytuff sets, please, stop comming this way.

As I said, to those I thanked, sorry for the team. My focus was all on Tuff, and not on the rest. As suc, I wasn't paying much attention to the rest. I'll use Piggy for sp.wallin.

Now that I have calmed down a bit, I can say this.

I want to use Tuff, Ursaring, & Typlosion (especially Plosion, since it's shiny, has great EV's, AND HP ICE), so I don't mind moving around my Pokes to make those three work.

BTW, I don't have Emerald at the moment, so if you can suggest moves that don't have Emerald tutor moves, like Ursaring with Fire Punch. A damn shame, indeed.


And forgive me if I came out a bit rough, to Allias, at least, since he was trying to help, but that was just awful advice, & I am sick of it.
 
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Gorebyss said:
Fling is because it lost physical Shadow Ball.
Trust me, I tried it, it worked out great. 140 Base HP is great for subs.
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As it has been stated before, please avoid rating without proper knowledge. You've made this evident in your posts in this thread and in the past. Bad rates lead to mislead trainers.

Allias said:
I wouldn't have steelix unless you used ev's on his special defense or got his SpD up some other way. His defense might be really good but ive got a steelix and his SpD is shocking. One Fireblast/eruption or any other strong fire attack and he'd be a goner. I had a steelix once and the same thing happend to me. I thort that he might be gud in a pack but didnt do all that much research into him and i went into a comp and steelix got snapped. So yea i just dont want anyone else making the same mistake i did.
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Seems Blueberry's avatar is mad at the quality as well...it would be wise not to anger him any further.

Now, this is what I have, ignore the first post, please:

Wigglytuff@Leftovers
Nature:Calm
Reflect/Light Screen
Wish
Thunderwave
Hypervoice/Charm/Toxic/Ice Beam
EV:32 HP, 252 Sp.Def, 226 Def
(Ice Beam so she won't be so Taunt-able.)


Ursaring@Flame Orb
Nature:Adamant
Stone Edge
Close Combat
Facade
Night Slash
252 Atk, 252 Spe


Typlosion@Life Orb/Choice Specs***shiny, no breeding
Nature:Modest
Eruption/Overheat
Overheat/Flamethrower
Hidden Power [ICE]
Focus Blast
EV:252 Sp.Def, 252 Spe


That's what I got now. I'd like to try out Leafeon, can he fit? What would I need to add to make those (four) useful? Or, three outta four. Sorry, Tuff.


Leafeon@Leftovers
Nature:Impish
Leaf Blade
Agility
Baton Pass
Yawn
EV???

Any good? Yes. I know.
 
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Leafeon cant get Agility i dont think, *Checks Serebii* Nope, it cant


Leafeon@Leftovers
132 HP / 160 Atk / 216 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Leaf Blade
- Swords Dance
- Baton Pass
- Roar


I love this poke, Roar out PHazers before they can Roar you =) A minimum of 304 Speed is absolutely essential on this, to outrun ALL base 100 neutral and of course Adamant Garchomp =p.


This thing can also use Wish support aswell

Leafeon@Leftovers
252 HP / 20 Def / 236 Speed
Impish nature
- Yawn
- Wish
- Protect
- Leaf Blade

Here 236 speed 285 puts you ahead of all base 80 Pokémon, which is alot. If you don't mind being slower than the base 80 group, feel free to put those EV's in Defense and Attack.

= Win as a Gyarados counter =)
 
What the fudge?! I coulda sworn I saw Agility! That doesn't even sound like it makes sense.

I like the first set better. Can iit fit in mah team of win? And what should fill in the other two slots to make this team complete? And if I use this, should Ring use Quick Feet? And what does E=MC sq mean, anyway?
 
sims796 said:
What the fudge?! I coulda sworn I saw Agility! That doesn't even sound like it makes sense.

I like the first set better. Can iit fit in mah team of win? And what should fill in the other two slots to make this team complete? And if I use this, should Ring use Quick Feet? And what does E=MC sq mean, anyway?
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E= MC sq ? E equals Mc squared LOL dont ask me, i cant do maths XD

Im pretty sure leafeon could fit in your team. I suggest using that irritating pig that dies to pursuit to beat up mixape though . <lol


Quick feet will be of more use IMO, if your passing sd's. so yeah..



EDIT : Jolteon gets Agility, not Leafeon.
 
Must'a been looking at Rest. For some reason, Agility is a Psychic type move.

Ok Grumpig's in, that makes five. Now, what about the sixth?

I'll use CB on Wigglytuff, now that I have Swords Dance to pass. Maybe even Giga Impact.
 
Blueberry said:
sims, I hope with Wigglytuff, Ursaring, Leafeon, Grumpig, and a defensively-weak Typhlosion on your team, you will have a Heracross-resistance.
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The team sounds so stupid when you say it like that :P I spend five hours thinking of a weakness, and bam, obvious.

I don't mind Gliscor. How would Dusknoir do?
 
That's why I was thinking of giving Grumpig Reflect, and Tuff Lighht Screen. But I haven't a problem with Gliscor, just too lazy to breed XD

In fact, in my earlier teams, much earlier, Light Screen & Reflect were the main draws in my team. It worked well, till the game matured some. Don't see Brick Break as much as I used too. Bob Dole.
 
Blueberry said:
Those are two of my favorite Pokemon. :3 I'm thinking Gliscor because it will cover Typhlosion's Ground and Rock weakness as well. With Dusknoir, I think you'd be a little Gengar and Weavile weak.

Edit: I hate you D_A. >:<
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Oh noes !!! XD


Anyways, if you decide to use Quick feet on Ursaring, use Toxic Orb >> Flame Orb, seeing as it doesnt have guts, it kills his attack, which is bad.


EDIT :Sims, i have 2 Gliscors, would you like one ? One i dont use so it doesnt matter =p.
 
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Dark_Azelf said:
Oh noes !!! XD


Anyways, if you decide to use Quick feet on Ursaring, use Toxic Orb >> Flame Orb, seeing as it doesnt have guts, it kills his attack, which is bad.
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Whichever pops out the egg first.

It goes to say, I think he is immune to paralysis side effect of lowering speed with Quick Feet. Maybe he can switch into T-Wave?

And yes, when I return next week, I will jack you of your gliscor.
 
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