4th Gen what is the best HM move

[st.jimmy]

what do you think is the best HM move?

mine is surf because it is a strong,water move.it is also very important to travelling to islands!

 

[GeneralGuy]

Physical - Waterfall
Special - Surf

 

[st.jimmy]

surf is better than waterfall physicly dude!

 

[PB.]

Surf for me as it is strong and useful, the second would be Fly or Dive.

 

[GeneralGuy]

surf is better than waterfall physicly dude!

No, Surf is a special attack. Waterfall is a physical attack.

 

[Shiny Umbreon]

Surf and Waterfall are the only good HMs, as General Guy said.

 

[Kittyipawd]

waterfall is a good move because even though it is a hm it is used in compietive play ,it is a great STAB move for water types

 

[st.jimmy]

where did you get that trainer card?

 

[ktn]

i like surf more.it is dependable because it accuracy is 100

 

[Shiny Umbreon]

azuman, don't go offtopic. You can ask those kind of things through PM.

 

[Waker of Chaos]

surf is better than waterfall physicly dude!

Surf is a special attack. Waterfall is a physical attack. Learn your moves.

Also, these are the best HM moves period for battle. Rock Climb comes second. The rest suck.

 

[ClassicRockFan]

I have to say surf since the other ones are pretty bad (except for waterfall) or the other ones have horrible battle effects.

 

[#Gecko#]

Surf is a special attack. Waterfall is a physical attack. Learn your moves.

Also, these are the best HM moves period for battle. Rock Climb comes second. The rest suck.

Have you heard of Return?
Only the Water HM are good(except Dive). The rest suck.

 

[BakingBluePotatoe]

Surf, Waterfall, FLy and Dive. Love 'Em. Period

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Have you heard of Return?
Only the Water HM are good(except Dive). The rest suck.

Return is a TM, not an HM.

And Fly is somewhat decent, but still not very good, now that its power went from 70 to 90.
Rock Smash sucks, even though it's power was doubled, but may be vaguely useful to some people.
I don't like surf as much because I prefer double battles, although having 2 pokemon with water absorb is a strong combination.
Waterfall is somewhat decent.

I have to say that for me, Fly and Surf are the best when used properly.

 

[Eruption]

Best - Fly. I need to go to some towns plus I get to dissapear for a turn in battle. :D

Worst - Defog. Gives Flash back!

 

[st.jimmy]

surf is more realistic than waterfall come on[ooh i rode up a waterfall today what did you do?]
surf makes more sense
P.S.rock smash is crap.

 

[Gymnotide]

surf is more realistic than waterfall come on[ooh i rode up a waterfall today what did you do?]
surf makes more sense
P.S.rock smash is crap.

Oo, I went surfing today, what did you do?

Maybe the user summons up a waterfall under them, shoots themself at the
enemy with the waterfall, then smacks them up the face while rising high into
the air. Huh? Ever thought of that?

Rock Smash is like Leer with damage -____-
Strength is okay.
Rock Climb is *okay*, but not reliable at all.
Fly is terrible.
Cut is badbadbadbadbadbadbad.
Defog is worthless as it only works twice in the game.

Dive and Flash are no longer HMs.

 

[st.jimmy]

but they will be in the next game most probs.not as if defog will stick around!!!!!

 

[albinoballpython]

surf by far, its incredibly powerful and useful