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4th Gen what is the best HM move

Surf and Waterfall as said many times previously. xD

Outside of battle Fly is probably most handy. I would hate it if we had to cycle or surf all the way to the other side of the map everytime.
 
1.Rock Smash is better than Cut because it lowers defense

Strength and Waterfall are similar. Rock climb isn't bad because it could confuse you.Rest are plain bad.
 
Waterfall is a great move. Probably one of the best physical water moves out there.
80 power, 100 accuracy and 20% flinch. whats not to like?

Surf, probably one of the best Special water attack out there. 95 power 100 accuracy and hits everything on the field. whats not to like?
 
The most useful HM in my opinion is surf. Not only does it transport you across water (which is very helpful), it is a special attack that does a decent amount of damage.
 
Well now that surf isn't used much anymore I'd have to say Waterfall. It's a great physical attack to have on Life Orb Gyara.
 
@Short Range: ??????? I thought surf was WAY OU ????????
 
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