What on Earth happened to this show?

[The Sentinel]

Ok, so today I was flipping through the channels on my TV and I came across Pokemon on CN. It was the newer version, Diamond and Pearl, I think. I tried watching it and it was...awful.

The new voices sound terrible (what where they thinking?), and the animation has really changed (Not changed in a good way either). And who's the girl with the beanie? I know they got rid of Misty and replaced her with that dimwitted May and that annoying whinny know-it-all Max, but this is the first time I've seen this girl.

Plus, what's with all these new Pokemon? The old Pokemon use to resemble real animals, or plants. Lots these new Pokemon don't even look like anything.

I mean...can someone tell me what these things are suppose to be?
(I had links attached, but I said I wasn't aloud to post them)

Roserade?

Regigigas?

Dainose?

I also hate how they take older Pokemon from the first and second generations and try to add another stage of evolution to them. "Magmotar"? "Electivire"? "Tangrowth"? "Porygon Z"? It was ok for a while, but now it's turned into a lack a creativity.

I haven't watched Pokemon since I was way younger (I watch the old reruns occasionally). Last time I watched NEW episode was the Orange Islands season. I use to collect the cards, the toys, the games (last games I played where Gold/Silver/Crystal), you name it. I even stood in the gigantic line at the movie theater when the first movie came out.

As an old fan of Pokemon, I have to say this series has become a joke. It's a shame the show has actually gotten this bad. The series walks where it once galloped. It had it's time shine, and it did, but now, Like Dragon Ball Z, it's time the show be laid
to rest.

(Also, sorry if there's already a hundred threads like this. One more isn't going to kill you.)

 

[fy@x5]

I completely and totally agree with you. ^_^

 

[Me2UJus4Free]

Pffft, D/P is way better than Johto and most Hoenn. I don't even want to talk about it...

 

[Myoko-chan]

Ok, so today I was flipping through the channels on my TV and I came across Pokemon on CN. It was the newer version, Diamond and Pearl, I think. I tried watching it and it was...awful.

The new voices sound terrible (what where they thinking?), and the animation has really changed (Not changed in a good way either). And who's the girl with the beanie? I know they got rid of Misty and replaced her with that dimwitted May and that annoying whinny know-it-all Max, but this is the first time I've seen this girl.

it's actually just because people are used to the older voices.

Plus, what's with all these new Pokemon? The old Pokemon use to resemble real animals, or plants. Lots these new Pokemon don't even look like anything.

Magneton

I mean...can someone tell me what these things are suppose to be?
(I had links attached, but I said I wasn't aloud to post them)

Roserade?

Rose...

Regigigas?

Legendaries aren't based on animals

Dainose?

Theres no pokemon called Dianose o_O

I also hate how they take older Pokemon from the first and second generations and try to add another stage of evolution to them. "Magmotar"? "Electivire"? "Tangrowth"? "Porygon Z"? It was ok for a while, but now it's turned into a lack a creativity.

Every Pokemon needs an evolution, or else it'll ruin Proffersor Rowan's statement about Legendaries not evolving


Believe it or not, Pokemon is a million dollar company now, they won't give a crap if they lose a viewer or two.
Besides, CN dubbing is a piece of crap anyways, watch the Japanese version, it's way better.

 

[The Overlord]

Orange Islands, Kanto and Johto were where the series shined, these new characters ruin the show plus the voices.

 

[Me2UJus4Free]

Orange Islands, Kanto and Johto were where the series shined, these new characters ruin the show plus the voices.

What a typical thing to say.

 

[The Overlord]

Indeed a very typical thing to say.

 

[Me2UJus4Free]

Indeed a very typical thing to say.

I like you, you're level-headed. =)

But really, there is nothing to complain about the new voice actors. The old ones weren't very good at all. 4Kids hire very unexperienced voice actors anyway, and keep those voice actors on very short leashes. That's why you hardly see the voice actors do work for other companies like ADV or Funimation.

The only reason why people say the new voice actors are bad is because they're used to the poor job 4Kids used to do.

 

[Ayano Katagiri]

Theres no pokemon called Dianose o_O

Besides, CN dubbing is a piece of crap anyways, watch the Japanese version, it's way better.

Dainose, or ダイノズ (hope you can see the Katakana) is actually a Pokemon... a.k.a Probopass in English.

And I agree with the dubbing part, the Japanese version is so much better to watch.

 

[Me2UJus4Free]

Dainose, or ダイノズ (hope you can see the Katakana) is actually a Pokemon... a.k.a Probopass in English.

Lol, and the OP said he "[hasn't] watched Pokemon since [he] was way younger". He shouldn't even know what Probopass is or it's Japanese name.

 

[Myoko-chan]

I have bad memory, but I think the old 4Kids voice actor that did Ash was a girl.

 

[Ayano Katagiri]

Lol, and the OP said he "[hasn't] watched Pokemon since [he] was way younger". He shouldn't even know what Probopass is or it's Japanese name.

Yeah, but then where do the names Regigigas and Roserade also come from then? O.o

Interesting though...

I have bad memory, but I think the old 4Kids voice actor that did Ash was a girl.

Correct. Veronica Taylor. I've met her briefly before...

 

[Myoko-chan]

Correct. Veronica Taylor. I've met her briefly before...

o_O There goes my old memories of Ash.

 

[Me2UJus4Free]

I have bad memory, but I think the old 4Kids voice actor that did Ash was a girl.

Ash's voice actor is still a woman. It's not unusual for boys to be voiced by woman. Most men can't get their voice high enough, and falsetto is out of question.

 

[Jorah]

Plus, what's with all these new Pokemon? The old Pokemon use to resemble real animals, or plants. Lots these new Pokemon don't even look like anything.

Geodude, Graveler, Golem, Grimer, Muk, Voltorb, Electrode, Magnemite, Magneton and Porygon are based on plants and animals? o.O

I also hate how they take older Pokemon from the first and second generations and try to add another stage of evolution to them. "Magmotar"? "Electivire"? "Tangrowth"? "Porygon Z"? It was ok for a while, but now it's turned into a lack a creativity.

Happened in Johto too.

I haven't watched Pokemon since I was way younger (I watch the old reruns occasionally). Last time I watched NEW episode was the Orange Islands season. I use to collect the cards, the toys, the games (last games I played where Gold/Silver/Crystal), you name it. I even stood in the gigantic line at the movie theater when the first movie came out.

As an old fan of Pokemon, I have to say this series has become a joke. It's a shame the show has actually gotten this bad. The series walks where it once galloped. It had it's time shine, and it did, but now, Like Dragon Ball Z, it's time the show be laid
to rest.

(Also, sorry if there's already a hundred threads like this. One more isn't going to kill you.)

How has the show gotten worse? All I can think of is that the show is still much the same it was in the 1st season except contests were introduced in AG and Ash has somewhat matured. The anime was at its worst at Johto, which is when Pokemon started to lose its popularity (where I lived it lost its popularity at Orange Islands).

The first series is no more mature than any of the other series IMO.

Ash is voiced by a woman in Japanese too, by Rica Matsumoto I think.

 

[Jorah]

There've always been cheesy, boring, pointless plotlines for fillers though o.O. Although there are more of them in the newer series I think, yes. Yes to horrible CGI though yuck. I think Bubble and Bubblebeam have always caused explosions but I can't remember. Its kind of stupid that the attack itself does any damage anyway. Oh no, the BUBBLES have hit me XD The animation is better I think, except from CGI (CGI bubbles make me cringe and I think I remember some CGI walls...it didn't fit in) and some episodes where the art has been bad. I remember that everytime Pigeotto came out of its Pokeball they used the same animation of it flying upwards over LOADS of episodes. I know that sometimes they use the same animation in the same episode, but it was used over loads of them. I remember that when Bulbasaur used Razor Leaf it just stood, staring in the middle of the screen and the leaves went in a spiral. In D/P it would at least move an inch while attacking.

4Kids had horrible puns too "The Purr-fect Hero" blah. I'm not saying that the puns now are good, they're as bad as each othr IMO. They started the puns around the 2nd part of Indigo League but had a few before then. But titles hardly show how good the episode is.

I'm not saying that I hate the first series. I love it and its my favourite series. Its just that the way everyone goes on about it...you'd think it was a godly series. Its not even godly compared to other series.

 

[star6phoenix9]

I thought it needed to be mentioned that Probopass is based on a nose, a Moai, and a compass... XD

 

[Charaxes]

This type of thread has been done to death anymore. However, with the last two replies (the Admin/Jorah), I'll leave it up in the air.

I'm past complaining about the series, anyway.

 

[CelestialTime93]

Ever since 4Kids gave up on Pokemon and gave Cartoon Network to seize the new deal, the show's just gotten worst! And the creators didn't do a very good job on the third series and onwards. My sister and I like the first two seasons the best, because it had a lot more action than problems to solve. And the heroes were actually heroes. They practically saved the community. Now, it's just a bunch of kiddie problems that you have in real life, and it's really boring. The episodes seem shorter now because of that.

Also, like what Jorah said. Some plots are just becoming cheesy and useless.

Hmm... I miss Veronica Taylor's dubbing of Ash. She was so much better at that than Sarah Natochenny...

 

[Sweet Candace]

Ok, so today I was flipping through the channels on my TV and I came across Pokemon on CN. It was the newer version, Diamond and Pearl, I think. I tried watching it and it was...awful.

The new voices sound terrible (what where they thinking?), and the animation has really changed (Not changed in a good way either). And who's the girl with the beanie ? I know they got rid of Misty and replaced her with that dimwitted May and that annoying whinny know-it-all Max, but this is the first time I've seen this girl.

Plus, what's with all these new Pokemon? The old Pokemon use to resemble real animals, or plants. Lots these new Pokemon don't even look like anything.

I mean...can someone tell me what these things are suppose to be?
(I had links attached, but I said I wasn't aloud to post them)

Roserade?

Regigigas?

Dainose?

I also hate how they take older Pokemon from the first and second generations and try to add another stage of evolution to them. "Magmotar"? "Electivire"? "Tangrowth"? "Porygon Z"? It was ok for a while, but now it's turned into a lack a creativity.

I haven't watched Pokemon since I was way younger (I watch the old reruns occasionally). Last time I watched NEW episode was the Orange Islands season. I use to collect the cards, the toys, the games (last games I played where Gold/Silver/Crystal), you name it. I even stood in the gigantic line at the movie theater when the first movie came out.

As an old fan of Pokemon, I have to say this series has become a joke. It's a shame the show has actually gotten this bad. The series walks where it once galloped. It had it's time shine, and it did, but now, Like Dragon Ball Z, it's time the show be laid
to rest.

(Also, sorry if there's already a hundred threads like this. One more isn't going to kill you.)

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THE D/P SERIES IS THE BEST !
(I'll give you these reasons why)
1. The old series just stunk, end of story, but you oldy fanboys like them, but I don't. Team Rocket and watching them fail was the only reason I watched the show. Withouth them, I wouldn't have watched the show. Right now, they're getting more into character development. Each has their own personaility

And, WHAT ! You don't know who Dawn is (she's the girl with the beanie), she's the best female pronagoist ever ! (But, hey that's why I'm a Dawn fanboy)

Sinnoh series<-- Other

Sinnoh series rules, the others, they were lame. END OF STORY !