Who would win in a battle-Deoxys or Jirachi?

[t3m4]

who would win in a battle? Deoxys or Jirachi? give me your opinion!

 

[Xaviar]

Deoxys, probably. Isn't Jirachi a wimp?

Although it depends on the form Deoxys is in, I suppose.

 

[Dukey]

Deoxys > Jirachi
Deoxys is just so much more powerful in terms of attacks

 

[Naturalistick]

Deoxys pretty much outclasses Jirachi :o.

 

[True Reign]

Deoxys overpowers Jirachi in all forms he would be in.

 

[Ivysaur]

Okay, this looks best suited in Pokémon General.

In the other hand, more detailed and thoughtful answers would be appreciated, thanks.

~Moved

 

[t3m4]

okay everyone you heard the man! to Pokemon general we go

 

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Actually, even a Choice Banded Superpower from Deoxys-a (THE strongest Pokemon in the game) does only 49.01%-57.92%
to a Max HP/Max Defense Jirachi. Since the attack drops occur, it can't even 2HKO. Jirachi, however, easily OHKO's with U-Turn (129.46%-152.70%)

That's what you get with Base 20 defense and 76 Defense stat on average >.>

 

[maxx unlimited]

Jirachi, it has better moves.

 

[Saltare.]

I say Jirachi. I was on PBR the otha day, and I was face to face with a Darkrai, full health, wit my Jirachi, more than half health gone. Jirachi kicked its @$$! SO, I say Jirachi

 

[DonRoyale]

Vance had to shove logic into this, didn't he?

What about Fire Punch from Deoxys-A? Doesn't it score an OHKO? :#

 

[El Gofre]

Actually, even a Choice Banded Superpower from Deoxys-a (THE strongest Pokemon in the game) does only 49.01%-57.92%
to a Max HP/Max Defense Jirachi. Since the attack drops occur, it can't even 2HKO. Jirachi, however, easily OHKO's with U-Turn (129.46%-152.70%)

That's what you get with Base 20 defense and 76 Defense stat on average >.>

When was the last time jirachi ran 252HP/252Def? :P

Vance had to shove logic into this, didn't he?

What about Fire Punch from Deoxys-A? Doesn't it score an OHKO? :#

Nope, 62-73% on the above jirachi.

But yeah, Vance is right in that deoxys loses out to jirachi, although the match up rarely occurs since they exist in different tiers.

 

[Azonic]

Even though Deoxys is in a higher tier placement than Jirachi is, Jirachi still will most likely end up being the victor. As Vance stated earlier, Superpower only does little more than 50% to Jirachi, and with the Attack drop from Superpower (and the defense drop), it can't do more than 3HKO Jirachi. Jirachi scores an easy OHKO with U-turn on both Deoxys and Deoxys-a. Of course, it's unlikely that Jirachi will be running a 252 HP / 252 Defense set, but it shouldn't make that much of a difference.

However, Jirachi only 3HKOs the standard Dual Screen Deoxys-e with U-turn. Deoxys-e easily sets up Reflect on Jirachi and ends up doing even less damage. Deoxys-e will then proceed to recovering off all the excess damage, so Deoxys-e might end up as the victor, seeing as Jirachi can't do much damage to it. Jirachi's use of Toxic is nullified due to Deoxys-e's Taunt. There is a large possibility that Jirachi and Deoxys-e's battle will end up in PP stall, unless Jirachi is carrying the Calm Mind moveset. Deoxys-e has no real ways of damaging Jirachi either.

Jirachi against Deoxys-d will most likely end up with Jirachi as the victor. Jirachi outspeeds Deoxys-d and gives it an increasening toxin, while Jirachi is immune to Toxic from Deoxys-d. If Deoxys-d gets in an Agility, the whole battle might turn into a PP stall since Jirachi is Taunted from using Toxic. U-turn may be supereffective, but still does minimal damage against Deoxys-d thanks to its high defenses. If one of them has Calm Mind, they can turn the tables around. Anyways, Jirachi will most likely end up as victor.

Jirachi vs. Deoxys-a = Jirachi
Jirachi vs. Deoxys-s = Could go either way
Jirachi vs. Deoxys = Jirachi
Jirachi vs. Deoxys-d = Jirachi

Those are pretty much the most likely outcomes. Deoxys-a can still win against Jirachi though, but these are just most likely. In other words, Jirachi will most likely win against Deoxys overall.

 

[t3m4]

Even though Deoxys is in a higher tier placement than Jirachi is, Jirachi still will most likely end up being the victor. As Vance stated earlier, Superpower only does little more than 50% to Jirachi, and with the Attack drop from Superpower (and the defense drop), it can't do more than 3HKO Jirachi. Jirachi scores an easy OHKO with U-turn on both Deoxys and Deoxys-a. Of course, it's unlikely that Jirachi will be running a 252 HP / 252 Defense set, but it shouldn't make that much of a difference.

However, Jirachi only 3HKOs the standard Dual Screen Deoxys-e with U-turn. Deoxys-e easily sets up Reflect on Jirachi and ends up doing even less damage. Deoxys-e will then proceed to recovering off all the excess damage, so Deoxys-e might end up as the victor, seeing as Jirachi can't do much damage to it. Jirachi's use of Toxic is nullified due to Deoxys-e's Taunt. There is a large possibility that Jirachi and Deoxys-e's battle will end up in PP stall, unless Jirachi is carrying the Calm Mind moveset. Deoxys-e has no real ways of damaging Jirachi either.

Jirachi against Deoxys-d will most likely end up with Jirachi as the victor. Jirachi outspeeds Deoxys-d and gives it an increasening toxin, while Jirachi is immune to Toxic from Deoxys-d. If Deoxys-d gets in an Agility, the whole battle might turn into a PP stall since Jirachi is Taunted from using Toxic. U-turn may be supereffective, but still does minimal damage against Deoxys-d thanks to its high defenses. If one of them has Calm Mind, they can turn the tables around. Anyways, Jirachi will most likely end up as victor.

Jirachi vs. Deoxys-a = Jirachi
Jirachi vs. Deoxys-s = Could go either way
Jirachi vs. Deoxys = Jirachi
Jirachi vs. Deoxys-d = Jirachi

Those are pretty much the most likely outcomes. Deoxys-a can still win against Jirachi though, but these are just most likely. In other words, Jirachi will most likely win against Deoxys overall.

wow you took technical to a whole new level! I like that!

 

[Walrein]

Actually, even a Choice Banded Superpower from Deoxys-a (THE strongest Pokemon in the game) does only 49.01%-57.92%
to a Max HP/Max Defense Jirachi. Since the attack drops occur, it can't even 2HKO. Jirachi, however, easily OHKO's with U-Turn (129.46%-152.70%)

That's what you get with Base 20 defense and 76 Defense stat on average >.>

Well said. Scarf Jirachi can outurn Deoxys/DeoxysA even with Modest nature and easily OHKO it with Shadow Ball.

 

[Sushi.]

Deoxy, from what my Deoxy's Attacks has. I would think Deoxy would beat Jirachi.

 

[Lana.]

Competitively, I'm going to agree with Kayashi. But, if we were in the anime, I'd say Deoxys, seeing as Jirachi is only around for a week every thousand years (or something like that). Deoxys, being a space Pokemon, could probably easily destroy the comet thing Jirachi sleeps in. sad way to go, sin't it? As a rock? *Shakes head*

 

[the bitter end.]

Deoxys in a real battle, due to it's better stats and move pool. Jirachi in an Anime battle due to it's 'wish' power.

 

[pokemew]

my jirachi kicks butt on pbr against any deoxys ive seen on wifi for pbr
its moves
are
thunder/shadow ball/doom desire/psychic

ive battled like 30 deoxys and my jirachi only lost to one of them but a turn later doom desire kicked in and ko'd deoxys

 

[Zelda]

"I would 'cause legendaries are stupid and not THAT strong...as a matter of fact I beat a whole TEAM of legendaries b4....without EV training....that is how easy it is to beat them" "Yeah I been there I went there and this time I bought property! lol"