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By far the worst type is Fire. And to back that up? Gen 1 proved just how atrocious fire type was as both a defensive type AND and offensive type. The stats were terrible back then, with the average non-moltres special stat being surprisingly mediocre, which means psychic types completely troll them. And they had some of the worst movepool diversity I have ever seen. The nail in the coffin was being walled by more than two types, which no other pokemon with a different type has ever been walled (poison types have some good moves that prevents them from being walled, apart from Gengar, speaking of). They are helpless against any water type, even ice/water types because of their specials, and Rhydon and Golem laugh at their pitiful attempts to damage them. But Dragonite, chansey, and even Gen 1 Gengar being able to wall them? Hidden power needed to exist, and even then, they will be walled by at least one pokemon type. Thats how terrible their coverage was until fire types gotten overpowered.
Most supposedly "worst types" like Gengar was a threat in Gen 1 OU (it shuts down a large number of things, and effectively destroying toxic strats because of its poison typing, and was a poison type (helps that ghost is the best defensive type in Gen 1), Tentacruel, Nidoking, Venusaur, Victrebel, and Nidoqueen are poison types too, but they are still generally useful compared to fire types, and they were the "definitive bad types".
And before anyone defends fire spin, keep in mind, its only minor advantage is annoying gengar, which clamp does a better job anyway. Fire spin has the worst power and accuracy of the wrap moves. And you can't even use fire moves unless they were STAB, otherwise, you could end up burning a recover user, or accidentally unfreeze a frozen pokemon. Now THAT is a special kind of bad for an attacking type. Know what makes this work? The commonly yet pretty accurate verdict of the worst type in Gen 1, fighting, actually does have its uses as a type. Seismic Toss was a move that was more used for coverage than fire blast, which actually makes fire type moves inferior to fighting type moves in Gen 1.
Oh, and I have seen exeggutor and jynx kill fire types, pokemon types that are weak to fire. Doesn't help that fire didn't resist ice, so charizard and moltres were in trouble, and the electric weakness doesn't help either.
Also, flareon being the worst of the eeveelutions, moltres being the worst legendary bird, and later on, Entei was the worst of the legendary beasts, and Ho-Oh was the worst of the GSC ubers. Who was the easiest of the Kanto Gym Leaders? Blaine.
Which starter fared the worst against two gym leaders? Charmander. Heh, fitting that a type designed to make a handheld game "hard mode" would be considered the worst type in Gen 1.
At least normal types dominated gen 1, gen 2 and 3 were still scary threats, and beyond, blissey and chansey dominated. But fire types never dominated. Fire type moves has its uses as a coverage move, but thanks to stuff like stealth rock and dragon types, even those fire types with big base stats (Chandelure, Darmanitan, and the legendary Victini), they never really posed a threat in the higher tiers. Hell, Arcanine had the highest non-legendary base stats without a hindering ability, but because it was hindered by a pokemon typing of all things, it never posed a serious threat to the higher tiers in any generation. The seemingly sole exception, the nearly broken quiver dancing Volcorona has this absolutely disgusting entry hazard weakness compared to 700 pokemon.
The weakness to water, rock, and ground is appalling, as nearly everything in the game can access at least one of these attacking types.
And they have a lot of horrible 4x weaknesses with other typings, with Rock/Fire being the single most appalling typing in the series, a type combo that even a Luvdisc or Feebas can OHKO, as even ice/rock does buffer against fire type moves. Put it simply, fire types can never play a dedicated defensive role, aside from acting as a pivot at best, which any type can do anyway. There is a reason why fire types resists fairy types, because Game Freak knew fire types needed another advantage.
Fitting that the polar opposite, water types, is perhaps the best offensive and defensive type, with amazing movepools, and having a superior weather condition, which already hampers the already unimpressive fire types. Will-o-wisp's accuracy is terrible, and its sole niche to burn things has been replaced by scald, a WATER type move that BURNS, and hurts fire types that are immune to burns. Wow.
So thanks to the unbelievably embarrassing stint in Gen 1, and the fact that fire type pokemon overall never really dominated a metagame, and the only use fire type moves is to serve as a niche as a special attacking coverage move for steel types, and the fact that for SIX generations, they haven't made a grass/fire type, and will never give a starter grass/fire, fire types really hits the criteria as the worst pokemon type of any generation, but unquestionably counts as the worst pokemon type in Gen 1. Sunny day doesn't even begin to make up for those atrocious qualities.
Most supposedly "worst types" like Gengar was a threat in Gen 1 OU (it shuts down a large number of things, and effectively destroying toxic strats because of its poison typing, and was a poison type (helps that ghost is the best defensive type in Gen 1), Tentacruel, Nidoking, Venusaur, Victrebel, and Nidoqueen are poison types too, but they are still generally useful compared to fire types, and they were the "definitive bad types".
And before anyone defends fire spin, keep in mind, its only minor advantage is annoying gengar, which clamp does a better job anyway. Fire spin has the worst power and accuracy of the wrap moves. And you can't even use fire moves unless they were STAB, otherwise, you could end up burning a recover user, or accidentally unfreeze a frozen pokemon. Now THAT is a special kind of bad for an attacking type. Know what makes this work? The commonly yet pretty accurate verdict of the worst type in Gen 1, fighting, actually does have its uses as a type. Seismic Toss was a move that was more used for coverage than fire blast, which actually makes fire type moves inferior to fighting type moves in Gen 1.
Oh, and I have seen exeggutor and jynx kill fire types, pokemon types that are weak to fire. Doesn't help that fire didn't resist ice, so charizard and moltres were in trouble, and the electric weakness doesn't help either.
Also, flareon being the worst of the eeveelutions, moltres being the worst legendary bird, and later on, Entei was the worst of the legendary beasts, and Ho-Oh was the worst of the GSC ubers. Who was the easiest of the Kanto Gym Leaders? Blaine.
Which starter fared the worst against two gym leaders? Charmander. Heh, fitting that a type designed to make a handheld game "hard mode" would be considered the worst type in Gen 1.
At least normal types dominated gen 1, gen 2 and 3 were still scary threats, and beyond, blissey and chansey dominated. But fire types never dominated. Fire type moves has its uses as a coverage move, but thanks to stuff like stealth rock and dragon types, even those fire types with big base stats (Chandelure, Darmanitan, and the legendary Victini), they never really posed a threat in the higher tiers. Hell, Arcanine had the highest non-legendary base stats without a hindering ability, but because it was hindered by a pokemon typing of all things, it never posed a serious threat to the higher tiers in any generation. The seemingly sole exception, the nearly broken quiver dancing Volcorona has this absolutely disgusting entry hazard weakness compared to 700 pokemon.
The weakness to water, rock, and ground is appalling, as nearly everything in the game can access at least one of these attacking types.
And they have a lot of horrible 4x weaknesses with other typings, with Rock/Fire being the single most appalling typing in the series, a type combo that even a Luvdisc or Feebas can OHKO, as even ice/rock does buffer against fire type moves. Put it simply, fire types can never play a dedicated defensive role, aside from acting as a pivot at best, which any type can do anyway. There is a reason why fire types resists fairy types, because Game Freak knew fire types needed another advantage.
Fitting that the polar opposite, water types, is perhaps the best offensive and defensive type, with amazing movepools, and having a superior weather condition, which already hampers the already unimpressive fire types. Will-o-wisp's accuracy is terrible, and its sole niche to burn things has been replaced by scald, a WATER type move that BURNS, and hurts fire types that are immune to burns. Wow.
So thanks to the unbelievably embarrassing stint in Gen 1, and the fact that fire type pokemon overall never really dominated a metagame, and the only use fire type moves is to serve as a niche as a special attacking coverage move for steel types, and the fact that for SIX generations, they haven't made a grass/fire type, and will never give a starter grass/fire, fire types really hits the criteria as the worst pokemon type of any generation, but unquestionably counts as the worst pokemon type in Gen 1. Sunny day doesn't even begin to make up for those atrocious qualities.