XY Team help needed

[Avatar358]

Clefable is an awesome wish support but is not able to compete in Kalos Dex only competitions, please help me improve my team and find a replacement for Clafable

Garchomp @ Life Orb
Ability: Rough Skin
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Fire Fang
- Dragon Claw
- Stone Edge

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SDef
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Stealth Rock
- Protect
- Gyro Ball
- Leech Seed

Aegislash @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Sword
- Iron Head
- Shadow Sneak
- Swords Dance

Clefable (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 Def / 4 HP
Serious Nature
- Wish
- Protect
- Moonblast
- Cosmic Power

Talonflame @ Sharp Beak
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 192 HP / 4 Def / 60 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Roost
- Swords Dance

Greninja @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Hidden Power [Fire]

 

[PlatinumDude]

I don't think 4-attacks + Life Orb Garchomp is worth it, IMO. It appreciates extra power from Swords Dance, the utility of Stealth Rock or the extra Speed from Choice Scarf:
-Swords Dance
-Outrage/Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge/Fire Fang
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry

or
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide/Stone Edge
-Dragon Claw/Fire Blast
Nature: Jolly/Naive
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

or
-Stealth Rock
-Outrage/Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast/Swords Dance
Nature: Naive/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Focus Sash/Rocky Helmet/Lum Berry

or
-Stealth Rock
-Dragon Tail
-Earthquake
-Toxic/Fire Blast
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Rocky Helmet
Ability: Rough Skin

What are you thinking with Choice Scarf Aegislash with Swords Dance? Choice Scarf locks Aegislash into a single move when it's in battle; change it for Life Orb.

Give Clefable a Bold nature; it has no reason to use its physical Attack. That, and neutral natures are terrible natures in competitive battling.

Drop Greninja's Dark Pulse or Hidden Power Fire for Extrasensory. Mega Venusaur walls Greninja without that move.

 

[Avatar358]

Starmie @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 172 HP / 120 SAtk / 216 Spd
Timid Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Recover
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
Replacing Aegislash with this Rapid Spinner

 

[Boilurn]

Thank you for helping with this. Narrowing down the options, the second set looks most promising. You'll need a special Fire (Or Electric) type move to hit Skarmory and Forretress, and Fire Blast fixes that problem. Stone Edge's ability to hit Gyarados makes it the superior option over Rock Slide.

Here's the set I was thinking.
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Fire Blast
Nature: Naive
EVs: 4 Atk/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

Clefable needs maximum HP investment to maximize Wish's advantage. As PD suggests a bold nature, I would just swap the SpD EVs and place them in HP to increase it's physical bulk.

As for Greninja, drop HP Fire and replace with Extrasensory.

I also suggest swapping Ferrothorn's Gyro Ball for Power Whip so that pure Water-types can be hit hard.

 

[jaepil1994]

At least in my opinion, you probably should have a stealth rock remover considering you talonflame.

So a scizor wouldn't be a bad replacement
However if you are still looking for the same type of utility that clefable gave you. A sigilyph wouldnt be bad. It pretty much works the same way as clefable does.

oh and agreed with above... choice scarf has got to go on aegislash or swords dance... but u ditch choice scarf, you will need kings shield

 

[PlatinumDude]

At least in my opinion, you probably should have a stealth rock remover considering you talonflame.

So a scizor wouldn't be a bad replacement
However if you are still looking for the same type of utility that clefable gave you. A sigilyph wouldnt be bad. It pretty much works the same way as clefable does.

oh and agreed with above... choice scarf has got to go on aegislash or swords dance... but u ditch choice scarf, you will need kings shield

King's Shield/Swords Dance Aegislash is terrible now; it's easily crippled by burn and walled very easily.

 

[jaepil1994]

well... alot of aegislashes are now special rather than physical which does give that slight element of surprise i guess. But you are very correct in the fact that the usability went down alot.