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yup. im gonna get flamed for this O_e

Wobbuffet

Patient pokemon
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    BEHOLD THE GUY WHO WILL PROBABALY MAKE PPL GO WTF

    I use this team:
    Shuckle
    Wobbuffet
    Exeggutor
    Octillery
    Torkoal
    Slowbro

    The reason for this team: they are my favorite pokemon.
    Nothing else. I dont ev train either. why you may ask? becuase i think this whole system of pokemon rules, super wall strategies and OU and UU system is complete idiotic. yep i said it. and i know i will get alot of angry gamers after me for this.

    Ive had it with theese stupid rules, seriously. i really miss the good old days. back then it would of been all normal battles without a whole commotion on walls and rules. the rules are what are really annoying me which i will now talk about one after one.


    Over/under-used pokemon:
    what is up with this idiotic and unecesery rule. this is probabaly the rule that annoys me the most in every single pokemon battle i have online my entire life. Why cant it be just the pokemon you like. like in the good old pokemon gamer days?. my friend uses all over-used, not because there strong but because he simply likes the pokemon. i think people should be allowed to use the pokemon they like best and not be cut out by some stupid rule. same with underused, pokemon get degraded down to nothing in some parts. I for myself only use pokemon that i like. nothing else. heck i even raised a delibird because i like them. (yup im gonna get hated for this i can see it comming)

    ubers:
    No ubers no ubers no ubers no ubers, we all see it aaaaall the time. nintendo didnt make the game so that some pokemon are banned from use. why the hell is garchomp uber? i myself dont use him but seriously guys. one pokemon HAS to be the fastest that dosnt mean it has to be made uber. if you dont want certain pokemon, just say "i dont want this that because of this that reason" yes its true they made this rule to be "Fair" but seriously people. its pokemon, its a game, for fun. yes you battle to win but cmon. the main focus should always remain fun.

    walls:
    if you fight somewone online. yep you guesing it you always see the same pokemon in a costant flow. Blissey. im so sick of seeing theese things and i bet some of you are too. what happened to the variety in this game? im sick of constantly fighting the same pokemon over and over again. i swear once i battled 3 trainers and ech had exactly the same team.....thats just no fun. why dont you trainers just raise the pokemon you like and enjoy it rather with fighting with pokemon you dont like at all.

    yep. i know whats gonna come now. get out your negative feedback. i know your probabaly itching to shout at me. but i think i have a right to express my opinion

    aldo THIS IS MY OPINION I DO NOT THINK PEOPLE WHO DO IT THIS WAY ARE STUPID IOR LESS INTELLIGANT IN ANY WAY

    *takes cover*
     
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    Hooray, someone with the same thoughts about all these tiers and stuff that I do. I whole-heartedly agree with you on this. I wish that people would stop thinking about "What Pokemon have good strategical potential" and more of "I like this Pokemon, I think I'll use it."

    Off Topic: I +repped you for this.
     
    =O crippes almighty you think the same? thats awsome, i declare you Epic for life.

    thanks im just fed up with this too. i doubt ill make a difference but it was worth a try
    thanks for the positive feedback =D
     
    I think so too. If you're using strong pokemon, but you don't like them, then what's the fun?
     
    I'm not going to flame you (nor should anyone else, btw, everyone has their opinion) but... the game's not forcing you here. o_o;

    what is up with this idiotic and unecesery rule.
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    Since when was this a rule? It's just a standard, if you don't want to battle like that, you don't have to, and just specify that with your opponents. There are plenty of people that go with the just-for-fun flow. But criticizing the people that like to put effort into their teams and give themselves better chances at winning isn't exactly... effective. The Pocket Monster games have a beautiful system where any gamer can play Pocket Monsters and battle, you're not forced in the game to follow what you believe to be "rules."

    yes, there are standards throughout the net that players like to associate with to make things fair and competitive (and fun, I've had fun since I abused my all-out strategies since day one)

    its pokemon, its a game, for fun.
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    with elements to make it adaptable and available for hardcore play by more strategic Pocket Monster fans. Otherwise Pocket Monsters wouldn't have inserted IVs, EVs, etc. There's a hidden dimension for people that want a harder and more strategic experience, you don't have to follow that path.

    You're a-okay to use favorites but some of us really like the competitive gridiron filled with strategy, statistics, and preparation. We're not stupid for having some fun in a different way.
     
    I also agree. Most of my favorites like gardevoir, dunsparce, and froslass are Under used but I dont care. Im not gonna use a pokemon I hate like infernape just because its good in battle :\. I use pokemon I like :).
     
    Wobbuffet said:
    i not once said your stupid =O i just expressed my opinion thats all, and thank you for accepting it and not flaming
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    Well, you called our standards stupid, so I thought you implied such. XD No worries.
     
    BeachBoy said:
    Well, you called our standards stupid, so I thought you implied such. XD No worries.
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    yes and i do find the standards stupid to be honest but thats my point of opinion. not forcing anywone here to see everything like i do
     
    Wobbuffet said:
    yes and i do find the standards stupid to be honest but thats my point of opinion. not forcing anywone here to see everything like i do
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    and that's perfectly fine, but I'm just saying the great things about these games is you're not forced into one type of play, you can do favorites, competitive, or come up with a completely different kind of atmosphere with your own regulations. That's the beautiful thing about Pocket Monsters if you ask me, the ability to be flexible. d('-'d)
     
    Lol interesting team.
    Good to see someone who underrated pokemon and ones you don't see often.
     
    BeachBoy said:
    and that's perfectly fine, but I'm just saying the great things about these games is you're not forced into one type of play, you can do favorites, competitive, or come up with a completely different kind of atmosphere with your own regulations. That's the beautiful thing about Pocket Monsters if you ask me, the ability to be flexible. d('-'d)
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    okey dokey beach. conclusion of our conversation is: choices are win
     
    I understand not wanting to EV train/breed (that's why I like Shoddy) but complaining about how you hate often-used Pokemon (eg. Blissey) and only using the ones that tickle your fancy is about as close minded as people who only use things at the pointy tip of OU because they're used often. You should be open to using any Pokemon. I understand wanting to make favorites usable but you can't realistically use Shuckle in Ubers where Wobbuffet resides.

    And the reason for tiers... Game Freak never attempted to make the game balanced. Therefore, you have to separate things to keep Palkia from defeating a team whose primary members are Altaria and Charizard.

    Things are divided up for a reason. Really, except for Ubers, everything is divided into tiers because of usage, a result of usability yet altogether the only reason for OU-NU. OU Pokemon are used the most because people want to win. BL Pokemon are generally used the next most often (yet rarely) because they are seen as just as or almost as usable as OU Pokemon. UU Pokemon are used the next most often because they are more useful in their own metagame and have issues that make them less useful in OU. Some "top tier" NUs are usable in OU whilst the bottom of the barrel is not. Regice, Floatzel, and Slowking are examples of things that could potentially (and used to) be used in OU.
     
    I see your point.
    but IN MY OPINION if nobody would of posted those tiers people wouldnt even constantly go for the same pokemon. they wouldnt even know. i just think the people would enjoy the game more withought this metagame system
     
    Wobbuffet said:
    I see your point.
    but IN MY OPINION if nobody would of posted those tiers people wouldnt even constantly go for the same pokemon. they wouldnt even know. i just think the people would enjoy the game more withought this metagame system
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    Not exactly. The tiers made themselves. There are a substantial number of followers who don't really know what's good and what's not, but thigns got that incredible amount of usage for being good, not for being popular.
     
    Man. I'm +repping you for the ability to post whatever you feel when in these days people get really uptight about competitive battling.

    Wobbuffet said:
    I see your point.
    but IN MY OPINION if nobody would of posted those tiers people wouldnt even constantly go for the same pokemon. they wouldnt even know. i just think the people would enjoy the game more withought this metagame system
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    However, people would eventually find out (like they did), so your point is kind of moot. These ideas of pokemon will always exist and like Beachboy said, it's really up to the battlers. If you find other people who think like you, then have fun battling with them. If you want to battle the majority (a possible source of your complaint?) then you gotta play with standard rules because that's what they use.

    You should post this on smogon, and see what they have to say ;D. I would paypal you 100$ (not really).

    Nice post, I felt good reading it =D
     
    Sure, there's nothing wrong with using the Pokemon that you like...but you'd better prepare to get get your ass kicked.

    Tiers were created to make the game fairer. There's nothing fair about sending out Mewtwo against a Volbeat. Even if the Volbeat has a type advantage, it doesn't stand a chance. Tiers pit strong Pokemon against strong Pokemon and weak Pokemon against weak Pokemon. If there were no rules about Ubers and the like, you would see people with the same teams of Legendaries mercilessly crushing your team to dust over and over again.

    I do see your point, though. Rules like these can really limit the metagame. I've heard people say that they prefer BL over OU for the variety. On the other hand, is there a rule about playing a low-tier Pokemon in a higher tier? I suspect that there isn't. So if you want, you can pit your team of favourite Pokes against a strategic team of OU superpowers. It would be like playing with a handicap, and I guess that's fun sometimes.

    Not exactly. The tiers made themselves. There are a substantial number of followers who don't really know what's good and what's not, but thigns got that incredible amount of usage for being good, not for being popular.
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    Yesyes. Smogon moves Pokemon in and out of tiers depending on how often they get used in competitive battles, so the tiers are a reflection of how useful a Pokemon is. There's really no room for popularity in serious competitive battling (as far as Pokemon battles can be considered serious).
     
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    Wobbuffet, some of your claims regarding tiers are unfounded due to the fact that Nintendo did not invent the tiers, the players did. Many walkthroughs and basic strategy guides for Pokemon have been sold, but not a single one stated the base stats of Blissey, Tyranitar, or Bronzong. Neither has Nintendo ever revealed to the world the way that EV training works. We discovered these things, and we chose to implement them because it made the game more enjoyable for us. You were entirely right when you stated that the point of the game is to have fun, and this is how most players choose to do it. No one is going to think any less of you for not wanting to participate in the same way that they choose to (well, most people won't), but you should likewise respect those who's play style may differ from yours, particularly with comments regarding their level of intelligence (after reading Beach Boy's post, I understood that you were not trying to suggest anything, but it appeared to be that way).

    All of this being said, I am also a fan of Exeggutor, Octillery, and Slowbro.
     
    Well like i said this is my opinion think I <----- think that it would generally be more fun for most people to do it the old fashioned way. most people i battle nowadays ae pure win wanting machines that get worked up if they loose thinking there team is flawed. thats what i get mostly nowadays.

    i respect everywones opinion
     
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