ZOMG POGEYMAZ !!

[Dark Azelf]

lol

Salamence@Life Orb /Focus Sash / Leftovers /Yache Berry
Adamant Nature
252 ATT / 136 SPEED / 20 SP.ATT / 100 HP
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake / Stone Edge
- Fire Blast. / Stone Edge

This is a great lead. Im too scared to not use a sash on it ={ Last slot needs help aswell Stone Edge raped Gyarados and fire blast raped skarm. Receives subs from Vappy


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Blissey@Leftovers
Bold nature
148 HP / 252 DEF / 104 SP.ATT / 4 SP.DEF
- Seismic Toss
- Ice beam
- SOftboiled
- Heal Bell

I have a new Blissey !!!! With Heal Bell !!!


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Weavile@Choice band
216 SPEED / 40 HP / 252 ATT
Jolly Nature
- ice Shard
- Night Slash
- Brick Break
- Pursuit

This guy is one of the best pokemon i have ever used, its so fun when Starmie and gengar switch into Vapy on the turn he sets a sub up and baton passes on the turn they damage the sub to this guy which is effectively a free switch in due to baton pass counting as a turn. Revenge kills stuff. LOL DD mence !!

Azelf@Wise Glasses
Timid Nature
252 SP.ATT / 38 HP / 220 SPEED.
- Psychic
- Flamethrower
- Nasty Plot
- Grass Knot / Thunderbolt.

This is one of the only special sweepers that can beat Blissey, apart from being incredible cute, once it gets 2 Nasty Plots in its good game. I finally Soft Re-setted for one with fantastic Ivs. Wise Glasses allow me to 2hko Blissey after 2 Nasty plots.

Forretress@Leftovers / Shed Shell
Relaxed nature
252 HP / 196 DEF / 60 ATT
- Earthquake / Gyro Ball
- Zap Cannon / Rest ?
- Stealth Rock.
- Rapid Spin

Stealth Rocker and such, gets kept healthy due Wish, which is nice, i have heal bell now so its all good. Im not sure on the item at all, i really dont want my prime wall being lost to magnezone =[, at the same time Lefties are a must if i dont have a good healing move so meh. First and second Moveslot needs help.

Vaporeon@leftovers
Bold Nature
188 HP / 252 DEF / 70 SP.DEF
- Surf
- Wish
- Baton Pass
- Substitute

Sometimes i can pass subs and wish if im lucky, usually its just one or the other. This thing is so underated, its such a great pokemon and baton passer/Wish passer. Passes 101 hp subs.

Wish keeps Forretress Alive.


I might require a Hazer or Psuedo Hazer, what do you think ?

 

[Anti]

CalmCune is 2HKOed by specsmence, leaving the likes of Blissey or Empoleon as options (especially since Dusknoir isn't a very reliable special wall IMO).

 

[Eos Aduro]

Empoleon looks like a better option, also your team looks a little bit too physiucal attacking wise, you dont have many special moves, that could hurt you when a physcal wall that isnt weak to Empoleons moves, or Infernape.

 

[Dark Azelf]

CalmCune is 2HKOed by specsmence, leaving the likes of Blissey or Empoleon as options (especially since Dusknoir isn't a very reliable special wall IMO).

Dusknoir is more than reliable. Yeah i know CalmCune is 2hko'd but i was thinking more along the line after i Calm minded so that goes out the window XD. Ive gone off blissey,it gets raped by ape who is too common now and ironically i use one lol. Dusknoir is better for this team being that it stops spin and most importantly stops Vire, Starmie and other Mix apes.

Empoleon looks like a better option, also your team looks a little bit too physiucal attacking wise, you dont have many special moves, that could hurt you when a physcal wall that isnt weak to Empoleons moves, or Infernape.

Well i suppose, but i dont really know what to replace. Maybe some help i that department ?

Infernape takes out all the OU walls, from Blissey, Skarmory to Bronzong and Donpahn etc.The only things that cause it problems are like other Dusknoir and Cress both get raped when i pass a sub to weavile and either Pursuit or Night Slash them.

I may put a Calm mind Zam there if i feel Infernape isnt doing its job, i run Azelf with the same team on shoddy and thats all i require and as this is a wifi team so i cant get one so ive tried to compromise with ape and possible zam.

Empoleon is a good sp.wall i guess,but then again so is vappy and gets wish support.



I still need quite a bit of help it seems lol

 

[Samson]

sub pass vaporeon is godlike. i couldn't drop it for that thing that keeps reminding me that batman movie. ughh that villain was disgusting. i say keep vaporeon.

your salamence is very disturbing ._. 100 hp and 20 sp atk investment is silly if you're running a -sp atk nature and focus sash. just go with yache berry, Lonely Nature, no sp atk evs. intimidate takes care of -def. besides, most opponents who are running physical sets wouldn't think salamence ran a -def nature. fire blast vs stone edge... uh, am i missing something here? why not drop earthquake? why get walled by the likes of bronzong? dragon + fire hits everything except heatran, who after a DD, won't like getting Stone Edge'D, and who honestly won't be making the switch into mence. then you have metagross... gross screws mence over regardless. if it's not a bulky variety, fire blast will stand to do some worthy damage if mence is the last straw in taking care of it.

that donphan pic is so kewl.

 

[Dark Azelf]

sub pass vaporeon is godlike. i couldn't drop it for that thing that keeps reminding me that batman movie. ughh that villain was disgusting. i say keep vaporeon.

Yeah i have weavile and Donpahn to revenge kill it with Ice Shard and Dusknoir can take a weakened Draco meteor.

A full powered one does

Defender HP: 294
Damage: 219 - 258
Damage: 74.49% - 87.76%


poor noir, holy crap that does alot, oh dear, its not looking good for vappy staying in, as much as i like it =[.


your salamence is very disturbing ._. 100 hp and 20 sp atk investment is silly if you're running a -sp atk nature and focus sash. just go with yache berry, Lonely Nature, no sp atk evs. intimidate takes care of -def. besides, most opponents who are running physical sets wouldn't think salamence ran a -def nature. fire blast vs stone edge... uh, am i missing something here? why not drop earthquake? why get walled by the likes of bronzong? dragon + fire hits everything except heatran, who after a DD, won't like getting Stone Edge'D, and who honestly won't be making the switch into mence. then you have metagross... gross screws mence over regardless. if it's not a bulky variety, fire blast will stand to do some worthy damage if mence is the last straw in taking care of it.

LOL yes it should be called the disturbmence XD, Adamant is still a 2hko on skarm and a ohko on forry the same as Lonely so im kinda meh about that i dont like cutting defenses for the sake of one move.

Those berrys never seem to work for me either, but ill try Yache berry and see how it goes.

Stone Edge sounds very nice to put >> EQ, even though heatran does scare me.

that donphan pic is so kewl.

Cus donphan is cool lol

Thanks

Well it looks as though im gonna have to drop vappy for Empoleon, or specs mence will rape me.

If i run blissey >> Noir then Mixape rapes me so im kinda in a hole XD

 

[Eos Aduro]

I say Dusknoir, he fits you team well and Blissey increases an issue, Electivire.

 

[Samson]

empoleon is just as vulnerable to electivire as blissey. perhaps more considering STAB tpunch.

 

[Eos Aduro]

Dusknoir laughs at most Electivire though, with Will"O"Wisp and Pain Split, but still a handy extra might be nice. But I cant think of any.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Changed some pokes around.

 

[Samson]

this team would have some real trouble with a SD weavile. your adamant weavile wouldn't stand a chance =(

you may want to consider HP Fight on azelf so it can hurt tran/ttar/vile/houndoom, hell, blissey a lot harder. also, give it either a damage-reducing berry or give it focus sash. it's not going to stand a chance against weavile otherwise.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Some aspects of this still need help. Ive made some changes and there are still some holes, such as me lacking a Hazer or Phazer.

 

[Eos Aduro]

Rest is pretty important on Forry, and I don;t think you really need a Hazer or a Phazer, if so, Weezing makes a good HAzer over Forretress.