ZOMG WTH IS THIS ??

[Dark Azelf]

LOL

Anyways

My Ou Team

Salamence @Focus Sash
nature: Adamant
evs: 100hp/252atk/ 20sp.att / 136spd
- Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast

Yep DD mence.

Heracross@Choice Band
Adamant Nature
252 ATT / 152 SPEED / 104 HP
- Stone Edge
- Close Combat
- Sleep Talk
- Megahorn

Ive been wanting to try one of these out, i tested it on shoddy and is seemed to work very well. Switch in on a status and abuse guts. Sleep Talk because sleep is the only status that stops heracross, well not for long lol


Starmie@Wise Galsses
Timid Nature
252 SP.ATT / 248 SPEED / 8 HP
- Rapid Spin
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Surf / Hydro Pump

My back up sp.sweeper, Rapid Spin is there if i need it and Claydol failed me on so many occasions its not even funny. Evs are there so i can still outrun Gengar as this Starmie has amazing ivs, but only 22 in speed, oh well.



Heatran@ Life Orb
Timid nature
58 HP / 200 SPEED / 252 SP.ATT
- Explosion / Hidden power Electric (Power: 47)
- Lava Plume / Flamethrower / Overheat / Fire Blast
- Dragon pulse
- Earth power

This things a beast that my friend got from smogon for me, 30 ivs in Sp.Att, 31 Ivs in speed, 27 Ivs in Hp, 30 Ivs in def in 27 Ivs in Att and 5 ivs in sp.def =P


Skarmory@Shed Shell ( << Woot no more Magnezone)
Impish nature
252 HP / 238 DEF / 20 ATT
- Brave Bird
- Roost
- Spikes
- Whirlwind

Brave Bird so it can actually do damage when called for and its only hope against TauntriDos /Bulky Gyarados, Drill Peck sucks anyways


Blissey@leftovers
Bold Nature
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.DEF
Trait: Natural Cure.
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Thunderwave
- Softboiled

Oh yea pink thing of doom. Dont even go there with Aromatherapy, Hera, Blissey, Starmie absorbs ALL status and even Heatran can absorb Burn and Toxic so i dont need it.

Yes im aware of my vire weakness but Hera sort of counters that.

104 HP EV Heracross

Defender HP: 327
Damage: 112 - 131
Damage: 34.25% - 40.06%

from Vires Thunderpunch (after intimidate ) so i could intimidate with mence lure ice Punch and switch to Hera take the Ice Punch and then take the T-Punch and proceed to megahorn it. Im always uberly careful with using electric attacks this gen anyways and i very rarely lead with one.

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My Uber Team, let me explain, this is for a tourney and each person is allowed to use one Uber, the Uber i got stuck with is Groudon, so i thought id abuse the sun.


Groudon@Life Orb
Adamant Nature
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
- Swords Dance / Bulk Up
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Fire Punch


Another from smogon with pwnage ivs 27 and above in everything apart from sp.def again lol

sets up sun.


Tangrowth@Leftovers
Impish Nature
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 ATT
Trait : leaf Guard
- Rest
- Power Whip
- Knock off
- Stun Spore

Rest and Leaf Guard = Insta-Heal

my wall


Exeggutor@lefotvers
Modest Nature
252 HP / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
- Explosion
- Solar Beam
- Sludge Bomb / Hidden power Fire / Hidden power ice
- Sleep powder

Sp.Sweeper

Heatran@Choice Specs
Timid nature
58 HP / 200 SPEED / 252 SP.ATT
- Explosion
- Lava Plume / Flamethrower / Overheat / Fire Blast
- Dragon pulse
- Earth power

I love heatran. Sun + Specs + Stab + Flash Fire + Fire Move = Ouch

Also absorbs fire attacks aimed at Tangrowth and Eggy and Sheddy because of sun.


Cresselia@Leftovers
252 DEF / 252 HP / 6 SP.ATT
Bold Nature
- Calm mind
- Ice beam
- Charge beam / Shadow Ball
- Moonlight

66% HP Re - coverage in the sun = WIn

Shadow Ball may go on here as everything in ubers is either psychic or Dragon or weak to ice and Ghost.

Anti Specs Mewtwo Aura Sphere aswell

Blissey@Leftovers
Calm nature
252 DEF / 252 SP.DEF / 6 HP
- Softboiled
- Thunder
- Calm Mind
- Ice beam

No More kyogre. If it comes in wanting to cancel out Sun and water spout me i Calm mind and Softboiled and proceed to Thunder it.


Shedinja@Focus Sash
Adamant Nature
255 ATT / 255 SPEED (No point in putting hp evs as it gets 1 Hp lol)
- Will-o-wisp
- Shadow Claw / Shadow Sneak
- X-Scissor
- Swords Dance

Anti Uber Metagame, also a Kyogre counter unless its packing Toxic which they often do just to counter Shedinja......


I REALLY need help with the Ubers team as i have no experience of the metagame there.

Rate Plesh, add and remove pokemon if you wish.

Help with which Moves and items on which is the better option would also be great.


Thankyou !!!

 

[Anti]

Use choice band. There are maybe 2 or 3 pokemon that can counter it. Just laugh at your dear skarm friends and kill them all. Unprepared teams will be ravanged and defeated with ease. Scarfcross is too easily countered IMO.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Use choice band. There are maybe 2 or 3 pokemon that can counter it. Just laugh at your dear skarm friends and kill them all. Unprepared teams will be ravanged and defeated with ease. Scarfcross is too easily countered IMO.

Yeah i am gonna try Choice Band , but then my team is rather poor on the speed side, thats the only reason i was unsure of which Choice item would be best for hera.

 

[Samson]

give wailord choice scarf. it's sooo fun =D

besides, it's not too good at taking hits all in all, and has a major grass knot weakness. plus, it has water spout, ice beam, earthquake, and selfdestruct under its *huge* belt. 90 base sp atk and atk ain't half bad, but aren't the greatest when you'll have to give it a +SPD nature.

XD oops

ok i'm going to get some sleep now ._.

 

[Dark Azelf]

I still need help on some aspects of this, items and which options would be better for some moves .

And the UBER part especially i need help with as im not really used to the metagame there.

All help will be appreciated.

 

[Glisctillery]

usually i scarf my lead mence, much like i scarf my lead breloom, it's always a neat surprise

i also happen to scarf-taunt nowadays, and it's been working rather incredibly so watch out for the lead taunters

 

[Shiraishi]

I think 252 Sp def would be more benefitical for Cressy in ubers :/

 

[Anti]

I think 252 Sp def would be more benefitical for Cressy in ubers :/

I agree, as most of ubers are the lati@s launching killer special attacks at you and specstwo destroying you, oh, and kyuber :0 Yeah, I'd do that as well for more survivability against the killer special attackers in ubers.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Ill try it with 252 SP.DEF. I was kinda going for a dual wall as i have Calm Mind to buff up sp.def, i thought the best place to put those evs were def so i could take hits from both sides.

 

[Sora_8920]

Ill try it with 252 SP.DEF. I was kinda going for a dual wall as i have Clam Mind to buff up sp.def, i thought the best place to put those evs were def so i could take hits from both sides.[/QUOTE]

If what you're talking about by the Bolded part, Walling things with Stats boosted things is generally a bad idea.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Ill try it with 252 SP.DEF. I was kinda going for a dual wall as i have Calm Mind to buff up sp.def, i thought the best place to put those evs were def so i could take hits from both sides.[/QUOTE]

If what you're talking about by the Bolded part, Walling things with Stats boosted things is generally a bad idea.

Calm Mind Suicune and Slowbro seem to do a good enough job and so do Cursepert CurseLax.

Also if you didnt notice Cresselia has lol-erific sp.att, so its there aswell to make it so it can actually do some damage..

 

[Sora_8920]

Notice, I said It's generally a bad idea.

 

[Anti]

Notice, I said It's generally a bad idea.

Well if it doesn't apply to this situation why did you mention it? Not to mention you use the EXACT SAME wording I did :0

And I would REALLY consider lefties over shed shell. Magnezone can be a pain, but again, if you're that worried, I'd honestly say sub is a much better option.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Well if it doesn't apply to this situation why did you mention it? Not to mention you use the EXACT SAME wording I did :0

And I would REALLY consider lefties over shed shell. Magnezone can be a pain, but again, if you're that worried, I'd honestly say sub is a much better option.

The amount of people who pull a Magnezone and to a lesser extent Probopass on me is ridiculous, its almost as if they know ill use a Skarmory lol, Shed Shell alone is good for that, i understand where your going with Sub but i dont like cutting my hp in 1/4 s each time just to escape Zone.


Also my amazing Heatran apparently has Hidden power Electric 0_0, that thing just keeps getting better. Its Power it 47 though , rekon its worth it (Anti Gyarados etc)?? Although Explosion does finishes off sp.walls.

I may Life Orb it so i dont have to switch as much.

Ughhh its amazing how much help i still need with this.

 

[Anti]

The amount of people who pull a Magnezone and to a lesser extent Probopass on me is ridiculous, its almost as if they know ill use a Skarmory lol, Shed Shell alone is good for that, i understand where your going with Sub but i dont like cutting my hp in 1/4 s each time just to escape Zone.

Roost ;) But I do see your point.

Also my amazing Heatran apparently has Hidden power Electric 0_0, that thing just keeps getting better. Its Power it 47 though , rekon its worth it (Anti Gyarados etc)?? Although Explosion does finishes off sp.walls.

I may Life Orb it so i dont have to switch as much.

Ughhh its amazing how much help i still need with this.

Well, I suppose shed shell would be of benefit in that case, especially when you don't get a chance to set up a sub :0 lol

 

[Shadow147]

So the DD on Mence is an egg move, right?

lol, sorry about being OT, I just get confused when I see that.

 

[Shiraishi]

Why not just run Naughty on Mence and take out the Sp. Att EVs?._.;

 

[Dark Azelf]

So the DD on Mence is an egg move, right?

lol, sorry about being OT, I just get confused when I see that.

Yep its an egg move.

Why not just run Naughty on Mence and take out the Sp. Att EVs?._.;

I did that with my Garchomp and it cuts it good defense by quite alot and it could no longer switch in as well. Adamant still 2hko's Skarmory and Ohko's Forretress and 3hko's Bronzong with Fire Blast, exactly the same as Naughty does, so cutting the defenses isnt that good of an idea and not worth it if Fire Blast is only going to be used for a small select group of pokemon.

EDIT:

- Put a Life Orb on Heatran now
- Wise Glasses on Starmie
- Focus Sash on Salamence.


I found these items really helped last battle. I was aslo shocked when Heatrans (non crit) Earth Power nearly OHKO'd a Slowbro, just with life Orb, i was like WOW O_O

 

[Shiraishi]

I got scolded by Iceman when I put HP EVs on my Sash-Mence D:

 

[Dark Azelf]

I got scolded by Iceman when I put HP EVs on my Sash-Mence D:

Well i want this to be able to switch into Infernape aswell as other stuff. But yeah i see what you mean.