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Say all you want to say about the Catholic Religion!!!!

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Guillermo

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    @ whoever believes Catholic and Christian are the same: No, Christian and Catholic are different. :[ idk how, but they shouldn't be counted as the same.

    ... since I'm Christian. :3

    negnegnegneg!!!!

    Anyway, as for me, I don't really believe in "God" as a person that sits up in the skies and does all these wondrous things, and I don't believe he created the world in seven days, but I do believe it as some form of, "energy" I guess, to which people gave a name. I really believe in choosing a different life after death, but that's just me. Everyone should be entitled to their opinion, and I won't take that away from anyone.

    And I don't really think much of the Pope. He's just a guy that sits at the "top of the food chain" sort of thing when it comes to Religion. I guess. He's quite a remarkable man, though.
     
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    I don't think there's anything "good" or "bad" about it. From my POV, each religion has a little bit (or maybe a lot) of truth in it, but none holds the overall truth. ...But that's just how I see things. It just makes sense to me that way. Then again, not every religion has a little bit of truth... Like those ones where they worship gold cows, and stuff. I... don't believe that.
     

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    @ whoever believes Catholic and Christian are the same: No, Christian and Catholic are different. :[ idk how, but they shouldn't be counted as the same.

    ... since I'm Christian. :3

    You must be crazy. Catholicism is a form of Christianity. They aren't the same, but if you get what I'm saying, they aren't different. Christianity believes in Jesus Christ as the Messiah. So does Catholicism, but they have a strict way of doing what they believe is Jesus's will.

    I've been to Catholic school all my life and I'm still not comfortable with the religion. I'm not Catholic myself, but I guess you could say I was raised one. I don't believe in many of their teachings. I'm not one of those idiots that say they're 'Mary Worshipers', but I do have to say a lot of attention is given to Mary when she didn't really do anything but accept Jesus as her son. You don't see a Jesus Rosary. Why is there a prayer to Mary? I think Jesus would be more responsive, seeing he's the Messiah and all. Mary showed nothing miraculous other than a virgin birth (which isn't even mentioned in the bible but it has been altered as such) so praying to her for miracles doesn't make much sense to me.

    Second, I have a giant beef with Reconciliation. I was never allowed to go and speak to a priest in their little booths seeing I wasn't Catholic and all, but while I just sat there for an hour in a Church that wouldn't accept me into anything, I thought about it. Why tell your sins to a priest when you can tell them directly to God? God hears you. God understands you more than you do yourself. So why does a priest need to know? Will it add a +mercy point to your sins? I don't think a priest could ever forgive you for your sins. "He who has no sin should cast the first rock." A priest is not a holy being, they are sinful as well. Why trust them with your wrongs? It just doesn't make sense to me.

    Third! The clergy. The 'infallible' pope. In 11th grade, I had to take a class on the history of the Church...do you have any idea how many popes had concubines?! About three or four actually, at one time there were even two Popes at the same time. How could they both be chosen by God to be infallible? It just doesn't make sense. I dislike treating religion as a government system that needs to be organized by people who believe they are 'holier'. They're people too. I'm sure we've heard enough about some priests to know that. Telling someone 'if you don't follow this teaching you'll have a mortal sin' (ex: Church's stance on abortion, not going to Church on Sunday, not having a wedding in a church) just seems wrong to me. I guess that's how people are pressured by the Church.

    Fourth, they don't let anyone who isn't Catholic participate in the Eucharist. I guess it's because they believe that the body and blood IS the EXACT body and blood of Christ. I capitalized that because few Catholics understand that. The Catholic Church believes the Eucharist is the official body and blood. Not a symbol, but the official. I'm not trying to make the Church look crazy here; if you think I am and you're Catholic, go back to CCD. But yeah...I don't believe it is the exact body and blood.

    Well that's my opinion. ~OPINION~ I DO NOT FORCE THIS ON YOU.
    But yeah. Just my own experiences with The Way from first grade onward.


    BUT DON'T FORGET TO READ THIS: If I see any later trouble here this will be locked, k? :3
     
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    I know how Catholicism comes from Christianity, but what I meant is that there are slight differences and... my point more was... not to call Christians Catholics rather than the other way around - wording is confusing, I know. :3
     
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    I gave up on being Catholic a while go and have never turned back. It is just silly (IMO) to believe in some 2-thousand-year-old Jewish zombie who will rid me of some evil force put upon me by a woman who talked to a snake and ate an apple in some mystical land if I eat his flesh and tell him he's my master. Not to mention I got tired of their crazy amount of ridiculous rules. I instead believe that God is only there for a person to believe in so that they don't fear death as much and that beings came from natural occurrences.
     
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    Through what little I know about Catholocism, it's got a lot of added on bits and doesn't follow the Bible as it is, rather has built upon it unnecessarily, which I would deduce as being sinful — to interfere with the word of Yahweh.

    I think anyone calling themselves Christian should actually read the Bible and make up their own mind, not follow some arbitrary sect.


    FTR: I'm not a Christian.
     
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    Britney's Circus

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    I'm confusing the laws of nature, etc but one question the world has asked is "Who created God?" and people say he created himself but i want to know the true answers and questions but i'm never going to turn Catholic and all the schools teach R.E even though we don't believe it, it's not fair.

    Why should we put up with the rubbish, no offence to Catholic's but this is my opinion and many others say the same, my case is finished.
     
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    i'm never going to turn Catholic and all the schools teach R.E even though we don't believe it, it's not fair.
    RE classes are just to teach you about religions, not make you follow a specific one. If you do have a forceful teacher though, that's mildly concerning.
     
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    Oh god this topic makes me facepalm so hard.

    Catholic Religion is the highest Religion it's because in the whole world. There are 85% Catholics. Other Religions are only 15%.

    lolno

    There are approximately two billion Christians in the world, and anywhere between 500 million and 1.3 billion Muslims. Even if we take the lowest estimate for Islam it's only 80% Christian, and that's ignoring millions of people who are Jewish, Hindu, Sikh etc. etc. Taking into account the eight religions with the most followers (with accurate estimates - it's impossible to know how many believers of African folk religions there are, for example, and figures from countries like China are hazy due to the control of information), Christianity comes up with around half your figure, at 42%. This only accounts for believers of concrete religions, but atheism and agnosticism are as valid choices of belief nowadays as any religion, so this figure is actually much lower. Assuming a world population of six billion, one in three at the very best are Christian.

    I think it's awesome that they believe in fairytales~~~

    Wow, thanks for the contribution.

    Well said, well said. 'Amen' to that.

    Oh, aren't you the wit?

    @ whoever believes Catholic and Christian are the same: No, Christian and Catholic are different. :[ idk how, but they shouldn't be counted as the same.

    ... since I'm Christian. :3

    Christianity isn't Catholicism, but Catholicism is Christianity. The Roman Catholic Church accounts for around a half of all Christians, while the rest are loosely termed as Protestant or Orthodox.

    I'm confusing the laws of nature, etc but one question the world has asked is "Who created God?" and people say he created himself but i want to know the true answers and questions

    "Who created God?" There are a number of Christian theories as to God's existence; you make it sound as if Christians simply avoid the issue when asked and have no answers. There are theories that God exists in timeless eternity (though this and God's omniscience does culminate in problems with regards to the issue of free will - i.e. if God is timeless God knows what we will do, in which case do we really have free will?), or that while God does exist within time he is infinite, and has always existed (though there are problems with this too, in that a true infinite is believed not to exist - e.g. infinity plus one equals infinity, infinity times two equals infinity etc.). One could then go onto issues such as the dimension and 'shape' of time (is time linear or cyclic, for example). All evidence is metaphysical in nature, however. Science has very little empirical evidence to explain their 'creation myth', as it were - the Big Bang.

    but i'm never going to turn Catholic and all the schools teach R.E even though we don't believe it, it's not fair.

    As Orange has said, Religious Education is intended to educate you about religion, but it also addresses other issues such as morals, ethics and philosophy. It's irrelevant as to whether you don't believe in a religion - I'm doing a Philosophy & Ethics (the 'name' for RE at Sixth Form level) A-level, yet I'm completely agnostic - and besides, your opinion doesn't hold true for all the people in the class. Just because you don't believe in a religion doesn't mean no one does - the people who are religious believers learn about religions other than their own, but you don't generally see them complaining, do you?

    Why should we put up with the rubbish, no offence to Catholic's but this is my opinion and many others say the same, my case is finished.

    "No offence"? You just denounced two millennia of teaching and the beliefs of two billion people as "rubbish" and you don't mean to cause offence? I hate this sort of hypocrisy in people. And besides, their teaching isn't forced upon you. Religious Education classes don't consist of priests and clerics imposing their views on you - a teacher educates you on the beliefs and teachings of other religions, along with addressing the issues of morals, philosophy and ethics. This is all done so that you can make an informed choice, but it's al of no use when steadfast, stubborn people like you sit there and refuse to listen to the "rubbish" that the teacher is telling you. That's simply the worst kind of atheism there is.

    I'm completely agnostic, though not in the misunderstood terms that many people believe it to be. Agnosticism is believed by many to be the choice for those who simply aren't sure, or perhaps believe in multiple aspects of conflicting systems of belief (and I include science in this - it is as much a religion, it could be argued, as Christianity or Judaism), or even for those who simply don't care (more accurately attributed to apatheism), but it actually requires a conscious decision that no current belief system explains fully the processes of this world. I show great respect towards both religion and science, and I detest people who do not. =|
     

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    Hmm... maybe I should start an atheism thread. No, wait, that would be stupid and would just cause a bunch of ignorant people to start a debate/flame war.

    Catholicism = Islam = Judaism = it's pretty much the same religion with added plot twists. They all worship the same god. In fact, think of Christianity as Judaism V2, and Islam as Judaism V3, and then Judaism as a conglomeration of different myths that all existed before.

    I agree with most of what Tribulations said. Also, I'm not in a very good mood at the moment.
     

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    Can't be bothered to do the quotes like Trib, but here:

    ~Fairytales - I don't know where you got your stats from, but next time, get them from reality, 'kay? And "Catholic Religion is the best Religion ever."? Are you TRYING to start a flamewar?

    [F I L Ocakes] - how your post hasn't been deleted, I have no idea.

    Fox - Yes. Yes it is.

    Nurse Nica - Christianity and Catholicism aren't different...but they aren't the same either X( Think of it that all catholics are christians, but not all christians are catholics.

    Britney's Circus - I' know what you mean, actually :D our RE teacher is pretty forceful, but I found the best way to deal with it was to argue with her as much as possible 8D
     
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    Oh, aren't you the wit?

    I do try.

    Anyways, to be honest, I don't care for religion. I don't need someone telling me how I should live my life for fear of an unknown entity. I of course, would never press my views on it against someone who is religious and all I ask is that you do not press your views on me.

    That's probably the single thing I can't stand about religion. Despite the fact I'm a decent, hard working person, the minute I say I don't believe in God, they want to harp on me and give me a sermon and tell me how my life will be better.

    Keep it to yourself and I won't have to get back up in your grill and squash your dreams of an afterlife. I can discuss religion in a calm and mature manner, just don't try to convert me. Cool? Cool. :)
     
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    It's just another religion. So they ordered genocide on multiple occasion and tried to stop all scientific advancements. But really, who hasn't?

    /joke

    To be honest, I could care less about any religion. They are just beliefs and as long as you don't push them on me, I do not care about it.
     

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    I don't really like any religion. Churches just make me feel uncomfortable.
    And I hate the Pope.
     
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    I dislike the Catholic bible because it has been constantly altered. For example, there are various sources that we translate Bibles into today but we do not ALTER the text. For example, the KJV 1611 Bible is still exactly the same apart from a few spelling changes. It has not been ALTERED. There is the New King James Version but that does not ALTER the text, as such. It is a different version altogether despite it's connections with its name sake. The Catholic church added stuff to what the Bible said and made them laws. This is especially evident in the Inquisitions and the Latin Vulgate it self.
     
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