5th Gen The Generation Five Speculation Thread

[Andyb4325]

Lion Pokemon with a fire mane.
dark/fire
bet we'll see it.[/QUOTE]

that would an awsome starter fire/dark lion

 

[Bloothump]

he wasnt talking about surpassing god (acreus) that wouldnt be right, he meant like something pulls you to what you want,

He said "that can match arceus" which to me sounds like that can be as powerful or as significant as arceus. I understand what the pokemon's theme is.

Lion Pokemon with a fire mane.
dark/fire
bet we'll see it.

that would an awsome starter fire/dark lion[/QUOTE]

I've created some pokemon, and that was the fire starter in my line.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Just because it's a new region doesn't mean the legendaries have to surpass the old ones. In fact, I'd prefer if they didn't. I don't want to think of one pokemon controling the world. The title is "legendary" not "godly". I think you guys are taking it too far. I'm guessing it will just be a Yin/yang pairing, and they'll talk a lot about the balance of good and evil. I don't want some strange mecha-human angel to be a legendary, I want a rare creature. Pokemon are creatures.

not all pokemon are creatures just look at chimecho, voltorb,koffing, rotom, muk, actually lot's of gen 1's pokemon were inanimate objects... also a yin and yang pairing isn't new they have been doing opposites since gold and silver, sky(sun) and sea (moon), land and sea, latios and latias which represent opposing genders, time and space, plus Hoenn actually looks like a yin and yang sign, don't believe me look at a map of Hoenn for some time and you will see it, hey maybe this can be used as a hint for Hoenn remakes...

That's too much like solar beam, which a lot of fire-types can learn anyway.
Actually, it's exactly the same, just with a different type.

wrong the move has a base attack of 110 not 120 plus solar beam doesn't have a high critical rate oh and i forgot to mention it can burn the opponent and besides even if it was look at the elemental punches and the elemental fangs.

 

[Andyb4325]

well before he wasnt talking about matching him, i didnt see it when he put that

 

[Bloothump]

Well all the legends since johto have been opposites. By Yin Yang I mean the more obvious good/evil aspect and the importance of both, how without evil there would be no good(edit) etc. etc. And although they're based off inanimate objects, they're still living creatures. I don't want to see anything too humane looking, other than say Mr. Mime or Jynx.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

He said "that can match arceus" which to me sounds like that can be as powerful or as significant as arceus. I understand what the pokemon's theme is.



that would an awsome starter fire/dark lion

I've created some pokemon, and that was the fire starter in my line.[/QUOTE]by matching i meant in importance not in power, you know like groudon is as important as ho-oh but ho-oh is stronger, wait that's not a good example but you know what i mean. I want a pokemon that can near the dragon's in importance atleast.

 

[Andyb4325]

i think they should add some new types, they havent since johto. i also think it would be cool to see a grass/physic and water/ghost, or something like that

 

[Bloothump]

I've created some pokemon, and that was the fire starter in my line.

by matching i meant in importance not in power, you know like groudon is as important as ho-oh but ho-oh is stronger, wait that's not a good example but you know what i mean. I want a pokemon that can near the dragon's in importance atleast.[/QUOTE]

That's what I mean by "significant". It's the same as "important".
And I don't think we need any more significance, we're going over board.
We have a pokemon god, for pete's sake, that's too far!
So let's reverse. We have plenty of untouched legendary ideas, but if we're hung up on making the next one better, then these ideas get wasted.

That's why I think we'll see a fire lion pokemon this time around.

i think they should add some new types, they havent since johto. i also think it would be cool to see a grass/physic and water/ghost, or something like that

I think there's a reason for that, new types would be redundant.
Amd there is a grass/psychic, his name is eggsecutor, and he's awesome.
And a Gost/Water could be some sort of sunken ship type thing.

 

[SIN1488]

How about this one. In the new game, you beat the Elite 4 like always and become the new champion of this region after beating the old one. Now I know they can't throw all the regions themselves into the game, but why not throw in some sidequests after becoming champion. Then after you complete those, you are sent to the "Champion's Hall" or something, and face what is basically an Elite 4 composed of the champions from the other regions. And maybe you face like a "Grandmaster Champion" after that or something, that can be ridiculously difficult.

I just want a real challenge in the game, Red in HG/SS is difficult for me right now, but I don't have one pokemon that is lvl 70 yet. So it would be cool if it was a real difficult challenge even if all your pokemon are at the same level or a little above.

 

[Andyb4325]

well we have actually had a fire lion, entei. i know some say their their dogs, but say their lions. but i think it would be cool to see a lion with a fire mane

i said that a long time ago i would love to see all regions on a game but not enough space :(

 

[Bloothump]

well we have actually had a fire lion, entei. i know some say their their dogs, but say their lions. but i think it would be cool to see a lion with a fire mane

I deffinetely see more parallels with wolves than lions with the dogs. Because lions are lazy and sleep like 3/4 of their lives away and make the females hunt for them. They're more like "lone wolves". Extremely fast, trekking all over, etc. etc.

 

[Andyb4325]

i know i think their more like dogs too but people have speculations of the them being lions. i mean their called the legendary dogs

 

[Bloothump]

How about this one. In the new game, you beat the Elite 4 like always and become the new champion of this region after beating the old one. Now I know they can't throw all the regions themselves into the game, but why not throw in some sidequests after becoming champion. Then after you complete those, you are sent to the "Champion's Hall" or something, and face what is basically an Elite 4 composed of the champions from the other regions. And maybe you face like a "Grandmaster Champion" after that or something, that can be ridiculously difficult.

I just want a real challenge in the game, Red in HG/SS is difficult for me right now, but I don't have one pokemon that is lvl 70 yet. So it would be cool if it was a real difficult challenge even if all your pokemon are at the same level or a little above.

I like this idea a lot. It's actually plausible. I want to see a bunch of sidequests with actual stories, and along the way you meet a bunch of the champions. Eventually you could meet Cynthia or something, and she could give you a plane ticket that takes you to the island where the Champion's Hall. It's be really cool!

i know i think their more like dogs too but people have speculations of the them being lions. i mean their called the legendary dogs

Well for one, lions are cats.
And I know their builds are more hefty than wolves, but keep in mind the first two regions were more abstract with the animals they were mimicking.

 

[Waffle-San]

I like this idea a lot. It's actually plausible. I want to see a bunch of sidequests with actual stories, and along the way you meet a bunch of the champions. Eventually you could meet Cynthia or something, and she could give you a plane ticket that takes you to the island where the Champion's Hall. It's be really cool!

That sounds pretty awesome, and I'd be all for it but I think I'd still rather a Champions Tournament. You still have to beat the Elite 4 and Champion but then afterwards, you're invited to a Champion Tourney. (Maybe after you beat the Champions of other regions.) Basically it'd be a huge tournament held monthly or every once in awhile where you battle all the people who have beaten Champions around the world. In the first round you'd take on people who have Pokemon in the 60's-70's and with each round the levels would go up until the final where the final trainer would either have Pokemon in the high 90's or just maxed out at 100. Than you could really be the best in the world!!

Also I don't understand this whole, "Arceus was a god, how are they going to top it?" mentality. They made a god pokemon. So what? Are you trying to tell me there's only one "god" in our world? It really depends on your definition and beliefs? And frankly, did Ho-oh top Mewtwo? Did Shaymin top Jirachi or Celebi? It's all arbitrary. The legends all have their purpose and their purpose is not to top anyone else. And if anything, they could just make another god pokemon. =/

Edit: Doesn't say frankly as much. :P

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

That sounds pretty awesome, and I'd be all for it but I think I'd still rather a Champions Tournament. You still have to beat the Elite 4 and Champion but then afterwards, you're invited to a Champion Tourney. (Maybe after you beat the Champions of other regions.) Basically it'd be a huge tournament held monthly or every once in awhile where you battle all the people who have beaten Champions around the world. In the first round you'd take on people who have Pokemon in the 60's-70's and with each round the levels would go up until the final where the final trainer would either have Pokemon in the high 90's or just maxed out at 100. Than you could really be the best in the world!!

Also I don't understand this whole, "Arceus was a god, how are they going to top it?" mentality. They made a god pokemon. So what? Are you trying to tell me there's only one "god" in our world? It really depends on your definition and beliefs? And frankly, did Ho-oh top Mewtwo? Did Shaymin top Jirachi or Celebi? Frankly, it's all arbitrary. The legends all have their purpose and their purpose is not to top anyone else. And if anything, they could just make another god pokemon. =/

true that's where i was getting with my god of destiny idea, it might not be a creator but it's powers are still pretty cool.

 

[Waffle-San]

true that's where i was getting with my god of destiny idea, it might not be a creator but it's powers are still pretty cool.

Haha sounds cool, the only thing I don't like about it, is to me it sounds like a psychic type, and I'd really like to avoid having another psychic legendary this time around.

 

[Bloothump]

That sounds pretty awesome, and I'd be all for it but I think I'd still rather a Champions Tournament. You still have to beat the Elite 4 and Champion but then afterwards, you're invited to a Champion Tourney. (Maybe after you beat the Champions of other regions.) Basically it'd be a huge tournament held monthly or every once in awhile where you battle all the people who have beaten Champions around the world. In the first round you'd take on people who have Pokemon in the 60's-70's and with each round the levels would go up until the final where the final trainer would either have Pokemon in the high 90's or just maxed out at 100. Than you could really be the best in the world!!

Also I don't understand this whole, "Arceus was a god, how are they going to top it?" mentality. They made a god pokemon. So what? Are you trying to tell me there's only one "god" in our world? It really depends on your definition and beliefs? And frankly, did Ho-oh top Mewtwo? Did Shaymin top Jirachi or Celebi? It's all arbitrary. The legends all have their purpose and their purpose is not to top anyone else. And if anything, they could just make another god pokemon. =/

Edit: Doesn't say frankly as much. :P

I don't think you understood me. What I was saying was Arceus is the "god" pokemon, and I don't think it's right that pokemon took the legendaries that far. The legendaries started out as rare, ancient pokemon who were rumored to exist. It's gone from that to creators of the universe. That's too much imo. I don't think the legendaries should be god like, only powerful and rare. Backstories are, fine, but I don't want to catch god and put him in my pocket, that's almost disrespectful to me.

I was saying that since gen tres, pokemon has tried to make their legendaries more and more significant, I think that they need to make them less important now. They're pokemon, not creators or representations of the world. So I'm really hoping not to see something that controls my destiny in the next gen because that doesn't sound like a fantasy creature it sounds like a god, which pokemon should not be.
End rant.

 

[SIN1488]

I was saying that since gen tres, pokemon has tried to make their legendaries more and more significant, I think that they need to make them less important now. They're pokemon, not creators or representations of the world. So I'm really hoping not to see something that controls my destiny in the next gen because that doesn't sound like a fantasy creature it sounds like a god, which pokemon should not be.
End rant.

I agree, just because it is considered the "god" pokemon, doesn't mean there can't be lesser legendaries that might even be more powerful.

And why not a rare one of a kind non-legendary pokemon that evolves into a legendary? Or something......

Where is GameFreaks official website so I can fill their email with my ideas? :D

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

I don't think you understood me. What I was saying was Arceus is the "god" pokemon, and I don't think it's right that pokemon took the legendaries that far. The legendaries started out as rare, ancient pokemon who were rumored to exist. It's gone from that to creators of the universe. That's too much imo. I don't think the legendaries should be god like, only powerful and rare. Backstories are, fine, but I don't want to catch god and put him in my pocket, that's almost disrespectful to me.

I was saying that since gen tres, pokemon has tried to make their legendaries more and more significant, I think that they need to make them less important now. They're pokemon, not creators or representations of the world. So I'm really hoping not to see something that controls my destiny in the next gen because that doesn't sound like a fantasy creature it sounds like a god, which pokemon should not be.
End rant.

you shouldn't be offended by Arceus it's based on shintoism which is a religion with many gods and goddesses that represent the world so yeah the creators are japanese and want to use their countries culture to inspire their stories, Arceus isn't the Christian god, it's neither good or evil from what we have seen... it's just a Kami not god but Kami. the japanese belive in destiny like that red rope thing that ties lovers together,ect. so they might make one on it.

I agree, just because it is considered the "god" pokemon, doesn't mean there can't be lesser legendaries that might even be more powerful.

And why not a rare one of a kind non-legendary pokemon that evolves into a legendary? Or something......

Where is GameFreaks official website so I can fill their email with my ideas? :D

wouldn't that be like the psuedo legendaries... and like i said it's not god as in Christiany, man westerners think everything revolves around them and their main religion, and this coming from a westerner... well i perfer eastern concept compared to western.
New topic (to bring us back on topic0: if the new region was in a diffrent country which country would you like it to be based on. i would personally like it if they made the new region based on South korea or china, or just continue on with japan.

 

[Waffle-San]

I don't think you understood me. What I was saying was Arceus is the "god" pokemon, and I don't think it's right that pokemon took the legendaries that far. The legendaries started out as rare, ancient pokemon who were rumored to exist. It's gone from that to creators of the universe. That's too much imo. I don't think the legendaries should be god like, only powerful and rare. Backstories are, fine, but I don't want to catch god and put him in my pocket, that's almost disrespectful to me.

I was saying that since gen tres, pokemon has tried to make their legendaries more and more significant, I think that they need to make them less important now. They're pokemon, not creators or representations of the world. So I'm really hoping not to see something that controls my destiny in the next gen because that doesn't sound like a fantasy creature it sounds like a god, which pokemon should not be.
End rant.

I wasn't really refferring to your comments, so sorry if you took it that way. The first paragraph was for you. :P Your comments above did lead me to think of that, but it's more arguments that other people have mentioned that I though I would put to bed.

I agree, I mean I don't mind legendaries having such big roles, I think it's kind of cool that Pokemon can paly such a vital role. But thus saying, I don't think it's nessecary. I've always liked the concept of "protectors" and things like that. I do actually love the 3rd gen legendaries but mainly because of the way their story was portrayed in Emerald. If Dialga, Palkia, Giratina and Arceus were given a better involvement in the story, like that of Emerald, I'd probably love them too!! I think the biggest mistake with Arceus, is they made a god pokemon yet gave it zero meaning in the game. It's just an annoying event. =/ Both these paragraphs were to you Bloothump. :P

Also, what Magmar is true...that not being really directed at anyone. :P