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luke

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    I wish I could get on too. I miss you guys.

    I'm also most excited to see if Shanderaa lives up to its hype since it's now my favorite Pokemon ever.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    I wish I could get on too. I miss you guys.

    I'm also most excited to see if Shanderaa lives up to its hype since it's now my favorite Pokemon ever.

    What is up with your shoddy btw ?

    Anyways i love the move Dragon Tail. A phazing move that causes damage is just...<3 :x lol Boiling water is so cool too and prolly my fav move thus far lol.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Wow..O_O

    Poliwrath@Leftovers
    <EVS>
    <Nature
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Overhead Throw
    - Waterfall / Payback

    "lol Zoroark"

    :]]
     

    luke

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    Riolu got Nasty Plot by the way so now we'll have NP Vacuum Wave from Lucario.
     
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    I really like the new moves / ability Arcanine, but I'd be surprised if it even moved to lower OU. :( Offensive Spiker Shubarugo will be interesting, same with the Jellyfish, Luvdisc, and Eel.

    Riolu got Nasty Plot by the way so now we'll have NP Vacuum Wave from Lucario.
    Still Gengar weak. ;D

    Edit: Swimming Goggles was apparently a hoax, it hasn't been found in the game's coding so far.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Some NFE pokes just got pimped out big style with the Pre-Evolution stone which effectively gives them a free cosmic power boost (50% boost to both defences)

    Porygon2 seems to be the anti metagame poke everyone wants as shown here;

    Smogon said:
    SALAMENCE

    POSITIVE nature 252 SpA Life Orb Draco Meteor vs 252 HP +1 SpD (thanks to Stone) Porygon2

    54.01% --> 63.64%

    POSITIVE nature Life Orb 252 Atk Outrage vs 252 HP/252 Def +1 Def (with Stone) Bold Porygon2

    39.57% --> 46.79%

    Neutral Nature Life Orb 252 Atk +1 Outrage vs 252 HP/252 Def Bold +1 Def (with Stone) Bold Porygon2

    54.01% --> 63.64%

    ONONOKUSU

    Neutral Nature Life Orb 252 Atk +1 Outrage vs 252 HP/252 Def Bold +1 Def (thanks to Stone) Bold Porygon2

    62.57% --> 73.80%

    Neutral Nature Life Orb 252 Atk +2 Dragon Claw vs 252 HP/252 Def Bold (thanks to Stone) Bold Porygon2

    55.35% --> 65.24%

    GROUDON

    Positive Nature Life Orb 252 Atk Earthquake vs 252 HP/252 Def +1 Def (Thanks to Stone) Porygon2

    36.10% --> 42.51%

    RAYQUAZA

    +2 Adamant Dragon Claw Life Orb Rayquaza vs 252 HP/252 Def +1 Def (Thanks to Stone) Bold Porygon2

    57.22% --> 67.65%

    +1 Adamant Outrage Life Orb Rayquaza vs 252 HP/252 Def +1 Def (Thanks to Stone) Bold Porygon2

    64.17% --> 75.67%

    Chansey takes hits better than Blissey:

    Smogon said:
    Choice Band Adamant Crunch Tyranitar VS

    Chansey = 41.05% --> 48.58%
    Blissey = 55.88% --> 65.97%

    First huge difference. Chansey with this EVs spread may be 2OHKOed only 6% of time with SR up. While Blissey doesn't stand a chance. However it doesn't end here.

    Choice Band Adamant U-Turn Scizor VS

    Chansey = 35.37% --> 41.76%
    Blissey = 47.90% --> 56.44%

    Another perfect example. Not that Chansey should stay in (SuperPower will hurt), however in some situations this may be quite crucial. Surprisingly, Chansey takes U-Turn as well as... Max HP/Max Def Swampert. Anyway, another proof on how it helps our poor Chansey.

    But here we go. What king of difference it makes when taking special hits. And here it looks also interesting. It's best to show it on example.

    Choice Specs Flash Fire Boosted Fire Blast Timid Heatran VS

    Chansey = 40.06% --> 47.30%
    Blissey = 47.48% --> 56.02%

    Gligar is superior to Gliscor at taking hits:

    Smogon said:
    +2 Flame Orb 252 Atk Jolly Facade Heracross VS

    Gliscor = 77.68% --> 91.53%
    Gligar = 61.98% --> 73.05%

    In other words, +2 Flame Orb Facade can't OHKO Gligar, while there's 28% for OHKO when Max HP/Max Def Impish Gliscor try to do the same.

    But someone may say - Heracross in this fast paced metagame ? Nope, I don't think it's the only niche where Gligar may try his luck in walling certain Pokemon. Let's go with Randorosu. 101 base speed, 125 base Atk and access to Swords Dance may make it one of the most dangerous sweepers in Gen 5. Well, this is also where difference in damage helps our litle Gligar.

    +2 Life Orb 252 Atk Jolly Stone Edge Randorosu VS

    Gliscor = 48.02% --> 56.78%
    Gligar = 38.62% --> 45.51%

    Just to make it short. Gliscor is 2OHKOed by Randorosu, while Gligar can't be 2OHKOed back. In other words Gligar may be able to run Toxic, Roost any damage back and let the Toxic + Life Orb recoils do the job. While Gliscor can't afford to try his luck with Toxic and must use Ice Fang, which may not knock out Rankurusu back.

    However may Gligar use this additional bulk on special side ? Well, he surely can. And I think Gligar has higher advantage here even more.

    0 SpA EVs Milotic Neutral Ice Beam VS

    Gliscor = 98.31% --> 116.38%
    Gligar = 77.84% --> 92.22%

    100% OHKO with SR up (with Gliscor) against 20,5% with Gligar. I guess it's worth to invest a bit of SpD on Gligar just to secure survive. Anyway, it looks really good. Ok, time for something else.

    Life Orb 252 SpA Roserade Neutral Leaf Storm VS

    Gliscor = 103.39% --> 122.03%
    Gligar = 81.74% --> 96.41%

    Just imagine Dusclops, Roselia and the like lol :x
     

    Anti

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    Gigner you posted that RestTalk set, but I think that you can't import Pokemon from Gen 4 (can anyone confirm that?), and all of the gen 4 mons got Sleep Talk from the tutoer in the Emerald Frontier. All of these legality things confuse me lol x_x
     

    .Gamer

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    pokemon is dumb

    i just got xbl

    gamertag: ajnardo add me yo. i only have mw2 atm but imma get black ops when it comes out and maybe/not likely halo reach
     

    Captain Hobo.

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    pokemon is dumb

    i just got xbl

    gamertag: ajnardo add me yo. i only have mw2 atm but imma get black ops when it comes out and maybe/not likely halo reach


    Pokemon is not dumb it is okay.

    I have ps3 online. My name is toon032 I have MW2 and I pre-ordered Black Ops.
     

    luke

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    Gigner you posted that RestTalk set, but I think that you can't import Pokemon from Gen 4 (can anyone confirm that?), and all of the gen 4 mons got Sleep Talk from the tutoer in the Emerald Frontier. All of these legality things confuse me lol x_x

    I know you didn't play Gen IV but Sleep Talk was a TM in that generations. Its not any more though.
     

    .Aero

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    pokemon is dumb

    i just got xbl

    gamertag: ajnardo add me yo. i only have mw2 atm but imma get black ops when it comes out and maybe/not likely halo reach

    My GT is in my info. Too bad MW2 sickens me now. :( I only play Mass Effect (1 and 2) and Halo: Reach now.

    Now onto pokemon. It find it quite hilarious that Chansey can now outclass Blissey. But is that only physically? Therefore Blissey is still a better Special Wall? Another thing that I want is that little first stage electric spider for LC. Anxiety (prevents the use of berries) could be great! :D
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Also at least useless suicide leads are easier to stop now.

    Mischievous Heart : Non-attacking moves have a higher speed priority.



    https://frentebatalla.com/pokedex-bw/591.html

    Sims im happy for you and imma let you finish, but this is the coolest Shroom of all time.

    OF

    ALL

    TIME

    (At least better than those shrooms you guys smoke ;D)

    Also has a cute cry lol. Sorta sounds how id expect thoughts to sound when i put my foot in his....


    Moving on lol Dusclops seems godly. With the pre evolution stone its bulkier than Deoxys-D rofl. :x
     

    blaQk

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    (At least better than those shrooms you guys smoke ;D)

    Silly Azelf, you don't smoke shrooms, you eat them.

    Also, has anyone tested the Evolution Stone? Does it work on any pre-evolution form, or just the first stage?
     

    Captain Hobo.

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    My GT is in my info. Too bad MW2 sickens me now. :( I only play Mass Effect (1 and 2) and Halo: Reach now.

    Now onto pokemon. It find it quite hilarious that Chansey can now outclass Blissey. But is that only physically? Therefore Blissey is still a better Special Wall? Another thing that I want is that little first stage electric spider for LC. Anxiety (prevents the use of berries) could be great! :D


    Is Halo Reach good I want to get it?
     

    Supreme Dirt

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    Sleep's not broken. Considering you can Sleep Talk while choiced now, can you say Choiced sleep absorbers?

    Still never going to use choice items outside of leads, but moderately interesting.
     
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