Osama Bin Laden, Al-Qaeda mastermind, killed in Pakistan

[Abnegation]

Bolded a false assumption. The American government doesn't actually gain any money internally, just re-allocates money from everything else to the military budget in times of war. American weapons companies do profit, but the government itself does not. At least, not with how American taxpayers are about taking on new taxes at the moment and have been for at least the last decade.

His killing probably makes things worse, though. :x

Who do you think gets the tax and owns the companies? The answer to both of those is the government. The government develops the weapons also.

 

[donavannj]

Who doe you think gets the tax and owns the companies? The answer to both of those is the government. The government develops the weapons also.

However, the government has to pay out of its own pocket in order to pay those companies to get that tax revenue. Last I checked, the majority of the weapons companies in America were owned by private shareholders, not the American government. The government does develop a fair few of its weaponry, but the weapons companies themselves have no minor part in the process.

 

[Abnegation]

However, the government has to pay out of its own pocket in order to pay those companies to get that tax revenue. Last I checked, the majority of the weapons companies in America were owned by private shareholders, not the American government. The government does develop a fair few of its weaponry, but the weapons companies themselves have no minor part in the process.

You're mistaking the private sectors who sell weapons to hunters and those who simply use guns for protection. The American government provides weaponry to countries all over the world, and can also charge a great deal of money. So they're both getting tax from the private companies who get their weapons from other places such as China, but we're not talking about handguns here, the Americans developed the weapons of mass destruction which they sold for hundreds of millions. They also make money through media, and feeding on the natural resources of the rival countries. Look at the oil take from Saudi Arabia for example.

 

[Blaziken15]

I'm not one to celibrate someones death, but when it's someone who is resonsible for thousands of deaths, it's rightfully desirved.

 

[donavannj]

You're mistaking the private sectors who sell weapons to hunters and those who simply use guns for protection. The American government provides weaponry to countries all over the world, and can also charge a great deal of money. So they're both getting tax from the private companies who get their weapons from other places such as China, but we're not talking about handguns here, the Americans developed the weapons of mass destruction which they sold for hundreds of millions. They also make money through media, and feeding on the natural resources of the rival countries. Look at the oil take from Saudi Arabia for example.

I wasn't talking about handguns and shotguns. The weaponry also costs that same great deal of money to make, a profit margin that hardly makes a dent on the government's finances. And what do you mean by the oil take from Saudi Arabia? Like we're taking some money from them? Or just the oil? They're not even our top supplier, anyway (we're our own top supplier, then Canada and Mexico), and oil companies operating in America use their buying power to obtain oil reserves in foreign countries, so the selling countries are just following the money.

Also, this may surprise you, but overseas revenue from things like media isn't taxed as heavily and often not at all by the American government. The biggest sources of tax revenue for the government are its middle-class citizenry and businesses.

Though I fear we're getting more than a little off-topic. And I really have nothing more to say about bin Laden's death than that we're going to see more violent and more frequent retaliations. He had it coming, though.

 

[Crystalized]

"America has sent an unmistakable message: no matter how long it takes, justice will be done"- Former US President George Bush on September 11, 2001

Well, he was right for once.
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[Charizard★]

I can understand why some people are happy and such, I don't feel pretty good myself knowing that he is dead, but there's a certain extent that someone should celebrate. Like my school for example, some girls made T-shirts saying 'YAYA OSAMA IS DEAD!'. I mean I agree, Osama being dead is good, but do you seriously have to be overjoyed for his death? That seems pretty morbid to me. I don't know how some people can be so happy about that. I mean he was human, and he did some horrible things, but I don't think that's an excuse for people to bring cake to school and eat it. But, that's just my opinion.

 

[Blaziken15]

I can understand why some people are happy and such, I don't feel pretty good myself knowing that he is dead, but there's a certain extent that someone should celebrate. Like my school for example, some girls made T-shirts saying 'YAYA OSAMA IS DEAD!'. I mean I agree, Osama being dead is good, but do you seriously have to be overjoyed for his death? That seems pretty morbid to me. I don't know how some people can be so happy about that. I mean he was human, and he did some horrible things, but I don't think that's an excuse for people to bring cake to school and eat it. But, that's just my opinion.

That's cruel what those girls did. But his death does make the vitcims of 9/11 familys feel a bit better

 

[Nick]

Assuming a situation like 9.11 was also a product of our own mistakes? Probably not, really, because we don't not have the power to rebel in such a way, I don't think many countries other than the US do. But the US brought it upon themselves in many ways, especially by letting the CIA betray it's own citizens by training Hussein, and putting him in charge in the middle east, as a distraction to actually go and obtain oil.

I find this post highly offensive.

Nevertheless, I'm happy and all that he's been dealt with, but I fear for the future of our country and the actions that al Qaeda may pursue in retaliation to the fall of their leader.

 

[Guy]

They didn't have to kill him, but the reasoning for doing so is purely down to the fact that the world is due another war. The American government make money from wars, believe it or not, it also gives justification to have defense forces and an excuse for scientists to develop new weapons. The CIA are going to use this to their benefit, they same way they did when they trained Hussain to rule Iraq, as a decoy to start war to get oil.

Bottom line is, they could have easily done the just thing, but instead they killed him in cold blood. There was a reason for it.

I disagree. This man has killed thousands of people in his life. He's done nothing good for his own people, much less his own family. The only other resolution I wouldn't object to if they spared his life would be torture till death. However, that would have just caused more trouble than need be. So, he got what he had coming. There's no way no other country would want to take him in, and I can't say he did not get what he deserved. He would have only caused more trouble than good, even though we already have that coming.

Bottom line is, he's dead and not a lot of people are crying over it.

I can understand why some people are happy and such, I don't feel pretty good myself knowing that he is dead, but there's a certain extent that someone should celebrate. Like my school for example, some girls made T-shirts saying 'YAYA OSAMA IS DEAD!'. I mean I agree, Osama being dead is good, but do you seriously have to be overjoyed for his death? That seems pretty morbid to me. I don't know how some people can be so happy about that. I mean he was human, and he did some horrible things, but I don't think that's an excuse for people to bring cake to school and eat it. But, that's just my opinion.

I'm glad to hear the guy is gone, but for them to do that is a bit much.

What's more, I can't believe they made or got shirts that fast. o__o;

 

[Azonic]

Heard this news all day at school. All the reactions were yay, burn in hell, etc. Kind of irked me because we're doing so much as celebrating his death. I mean, its good we don't have to deal with it anymore, but... kind of untasteful.

 

[Charizard★]

I'm glad to hear the guy is gone, but for them to do that is a bit much.

What's more, I can't believe they made or got shirts that fast. o__o;

They just took plain white t-shirts and used sharpie markers to write on it. And it is too much. Even some of the teachers supported it! And what's even worse all the Arabian kids at my school were being made of with jokes like 'I'm so sorry your uncle died.' and crap like that.


Osama was human just like you and me, he deserved what he got, but partying and celebrating it is a bit too much, imo.

 

[Nick]

They just took plain white t-shirts and used sharpie markers to write on it. And it is too much. Even some of the teachers supported it! And what's even worse all the Arabian kids at my school were being made of with jokes like 'I'm so sorry your uncle died.' and crap like that.


Osama was human just like you and me, he deserved what he got, but partying and celebrating it is a bit too much, imo.

What I find astonishing is how children and some teenagers are responding to the news. Children who were probably in elementary school and had little to no repercussions from the 9/11 attack. Granted their children, it's still a bit disheartening. I don't find the t-shirts and things you listed in your last post to be in poor taste, given the symbolism that many people feel that Bin Laden represented and what it means to have him no longer breathing. I do, however, find the racist jokes being made to be distasteful and sickening, to say the least.

 

[Charizard★]

Also, it was quite surprising to see that a lot of people didn't even know Osamas ethnicity. I've had about 10 kids today say that they're sorry for my loss (as a joke) and I have to tell the each time that Osama is not Indian. And then I hear some people talking about how Osama has a clone and the one that was killed wasn't the real one. Does anyone else think that there may be a 'clone' running around? I for one find it quite ridiculous to believe that. It could be true, but HIGHLY unlikely.

 

[Rai]

I personally am very glad he is gone. I live ten minutes away from New York City. I could see the smoke from my house for months and I have been terrified of airplanes ever since. I will never forget that day as long as I live. It was the strangest and scariest day of my life.

I think it is perfectly fair that people are celebrating his death. He killed over 3,000 people in one day. I celebrated his death. My college had a rally at midnight last night and I joined in. There were hundreds of us. We walked around campus multiple times, holding American flags, cheering USA, and singing patriotic songs. It was amazing that one event brought an entire college together so quickly.

 

[Zinock]

Wow..there goes the best hide and seek player.. :'( lol

 

[Guy]

Also, it was quite surprising to see that a lot of people didn't even know Osamas ethnicity. I've had about 10 kids today say that they're sorry for my loss (as a joke) and I have to tell the each time that Osama is not Indian. And then I hear some people talking about how Osama has a clone and the one that was killed wasn't the real one. Does anyone else think that there may be a 'clone' running around? I for one find it quite ridiculous to believe that. It could be true, but HIGHLY unlikely.

I doubt he has a clone. I think they're just trying to find humor from his death. Which is kind of obnoxious to be honest. More on the subject of his ethnicity though, I know what you mean there. I remember a couple years back in high school, some random kid who I didn't even know and who probably didn't even know me, called me a terrorist behind my back just because of my appearance (I don't see it). Little did they know that I'm Indian and not Pakistani or even Saudi Arabian. :| It irks me when people classify others in the same group just because of similar, but not so similar features. Luckily, I wasn't the one who heard them say that about me, but a friend who overheard them. Kind of brushed off the comment though, because I don't let things like that get to me.

 

[Charizard★]

I doubt he has a clone. I think they're just trying to find humor from his death. Which is kind of obnoxious to be honest. More on the subject of his ethnicity though, I know what you mean there. I remember a couple years back in high school, some random kid who I didn't even know and who probably didn't even know me, called me a terrorist behind my back just because of my appearance (I don't see it). Little did they know that I'm Indian and not Pakistani or even Saudi Arabian. :| It irks me when people classify others in the same group just because of similar, but not so similar features. Luckily, I wasn't the one who heard them say that about me, but a friend who overheard them. Kind of brushed off the comment though, because I don't let things like that get to me.

No, they were plain serious. And there are some kids in my school who support what he did. And they were putting up signs saying, 'Rest in Peace, you will be missed'. Needless to say they got in trouble. I know what you mean. I mean I've been called Hispanic and such, but I've rarely been called Middle Eastern, and I do hate when people tend to lump all the other Asian countries (Not counting China, Mongolia, Korea, Japan, etc.) together and call everyone Arabian. It's just plain ignorant.

 

[Crystalized]

Do any of you guys know why he was given a muslim burial (at sea, drown you bastard) when he was, as Obama said, not a muslim but rather a mass murderer of muslims? Was he the former or latter?

Also, his eldest son and two couriers were killed in the firefight.

 

[Charizard★]

Do any of you guys know why he was given a muslim burial (at sea, drown you bastard) when he was, as Obama said, not a muslim but rather a mass murderer of muslims? Was he the former or latter?

Also, his eldest son and two couriers were killed in the firefight.

No matter what Osama did, they still wanted to honor his religion, which was Muslim, by burying him within 24 hours. It's respectful. And he was buried in the sea because they didn't want anyone to build a shrine with his body, but you weren't asking that.