Question: Third Foot Thread?

[Kura]

So I noticed that 3 threads got locked (and one thread apparently deleted) in the OVP. I understand some of the rules state they don't want particularly personal treads-however in a way I felt that this thread could bring quite an interesting discussion. Fetishes don't always need to be sexual, and I wanted to reply to it regarding them in general- I thought it was interesting enough not to merit a close. It's unfortunate that conduct within the thread got out of hand, but as a concept I didn't see it as being so bad.. especially the last one:

"So we can all pretty much agree that feet are great. I mean, there's really no room for debate there. But how many of us actually take the time to stop and notice a nice pair of feet while say, sitting in class, or out for a walk in the park?
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I wanted to reply that:

"To be honest, I've been paying attention to feet and shoes more because I'm an artist. I notice that when doing sketches from life, people often focus more on the upper body. I've been trying to focus on the way the ankle is viewed and the way shoes form over the feet to get a better understanding of perspective.
It's in no way sexual, and only very educational."



I feel like.. yeah at least for me.. especially during the summer when I'm waiting in line for stuff.. I notice the colour of someone's toes.. or if their heels are cracked. But most importantly their shoes. I find it interesting that we feel the need to adorn our feet in this country.. whereas many countries where there is desertland don't pay their feet any regard.


Just wondering if it really needed to go so far as to be locked when the real issue was just some of the members' comments within that thread. And it definitely did not merit a deletion.




My opinion.

 

[Live in Color]

I love you, first of all.

And I agree entirely. I do like feet, they are a body part. I also like cheeks. :)

However, I was really concerned when I found out that foot fetishes could potentially be unhealthy.

 

[Alex]

Thank you Kura. I agree completely and wholeheartedly. That was bad moderation, to say the least.

 

[Sydian]

The only thing wrong with the thread is that the same people were replying stupidly over and over again. I think that was ultimately its downfall. But I saw nothing wrong with the topic at hand either. My two cents.

 

[Live in Color]

The only thing wrong with the thread is that the same people were replying stupidly over and over again. I think that was ultimately its downfall. But I saw nothing wrong with the topic at hand either. My two cents.

Is that not what like 90% of OVP consists of?

EDIT: Sorry, I should stay on topic. I feel like feet are a genuinely under appreciated body part, as long as someone can stay hygienic then I have no problem with feet.

EDIT2: Furthermore, I agree with an artist perspective. Feet are an interesting body part, and when I see a piece of work and it shows skin (not necessarily a nude picture) I think it's beautiful. The human body is amazing and paintings, drawings, anything of it interest me.

 

[Ho-Oh]

imo I think that if the same person who replied to the other two foot fetish threads which got locked and who just happened to make another foot-related thread within 10 minutes then generally chances are the user in question isn't aiming for any discussion.

 

[Live in Color]

imo I think that if the same person who replied to the other two foot fetish threads which got locked and who just happened to make another foot-related thread within 10 minutes then generally chances are the user in question isn't aiming for any discussion. Plus don't the rules say no body parts discussion?

No bodily functions. Feet are a body PART. I don't see anything wrong with it.

 

[Shining Raichu]

If a mod deletes a thread in their section, the appropriate response is not to create another. If you wanted to have a mature thread on fetishes, then fine, but we all know from the nine responses the first thread got that that was too much for you to handle.

The fetish idea is dead. If you continue to make stupid threads in my section, I will deal with you accordingly. Also, creating CQ&F threads to highlight what you feel is "bad modding" is also not the way to go.

This ends now.

 

[Alex]

imo I think that if the same person who replied to the other two foot fetish threads which got locked and who just happened to make another foot-related thread within 10 minutes then generally chances are the user in question isn't aiming for any discussion.

How does that make any sense? If anything, re-creating a thread shows that you indeed do want to make conversation, and that you disagree with the unfair locking of your thread.

If a mod deletes a thread in their section, the appropriate response is not to create another. If you wanted to have a mature thread on fetishes, then fine, but we all know from the nine responses the first thread got that that was too much for you to handle.

The fetish idea is dead. If you continue to make stupid threads in my section, I will deal with you accordingly. Also, creating CQ&F threads to highlight what you feel is "bad modding" is also not the way to go.

This ends now.

If a mod deletes a thread in their section, without proper reason, the appropriate reaction, as a person with a backbone who exercises his right to free speech, is to recreate the thread. It was my intention, as the thread creator, to start legitimate conversation about foot fetishes, which I did assume people would want to answer (and the creation of this thread here is perfect proof of that possible conversation).

The fetish is most certainly not a dead idea. And SR, I'm sorry but, CQ&F is exactly how to go about things. It's feedback about the forums. We believe you made a wrong decision and we decided to bring it up. It's called speaking out against those who act without proper reason.

 

[Kura]

The only thing wrong with the thread is that the same people were replying stupidly over and over again. I think that was ultimately its downfall. But I saw nothing wrong with the topic at hand either. My two cents.

That was exactly my sentiments. I understand Raichu wanted to act in haste so that the thread wouldn't get out of hand.. but I feel that a simple warning post or individual infraction was in order. I think the fact that it got locked in the first place without any actual explanation was what probably added fuel to the flame.. and made the members frustrated-ly lash out.

I dont mean this as a jab or anything to Raichu. I think he's awesome and a good mod, but I was looking forward to posting in that thread and I'm a bit sad that I can't because of a different choice of moderation is all. It's not really -your- section.. as everyone is entitled to post there, you just happen to look over it.
I think more threads were created as to shoo the topic away into something more general (fetishes in general and their regards to health) and then an attempt for something non-sexual (do you look at people's feet a lot?)
So I don't see a problem with these attempts to try and make the thread into something acceptable.


So is it possible for one of the threads to be reopened? Or is it already too late?

 

[Sydian]

Is that not what like 90% of OVP consists of?

Oh YOU'RE RIGHT. MY BAD. Your replies were absolutely great compared to the ones in other threads!!!!1111!!! No, seriously. Your replies were stupid. End of. Had you not come in there acting stupid and trollish, we wouldn't have this here thread in CQ&F now, would we?

Though, me replying to you here isn't going to get me anywhere. You'll all just go do it again. :)

 

[Ryoutarou]

Also, creating CQ&F threads to highlight what you feel is "bad modding" is also not the way to go.

This ends now.

I'm sorry, but what? That's exactly the way to go. If someone feels there's an error in judgement, they should be free to post about it and try to get the situation talked out, otherwise you're just running a totalitarian shift. There's no point to this section if people can't freely discuss issues they have with the forums or the staff and your post just strikes me as defensive right from the get go.

 

[Sydian]

I'm sorry, but what? That's exactly the way to go. If someone feels there's an error in judgement, they should be free to post about it and try to get the situation talked out, otherwise you're just running a totalitarian shift. There's no point to this section if people can't freely discuss issues they have with the forums or the staff and your post just strikes me as defensive right from the get go.

No, you're supposed to PM/VM the moderator in question, and if that goes sour, you take it to hstaff. No need to publicize everything.

And btw Nica, it's bodily functions that aren't allowed to be discussed. Foot fetishes aren't really a bodily function, so it would have been fine either way.

 

[Live in Color]

Although I can admit I was posting childishly, I was not trolling. I'm interested in knowing what other members think about feet. I miss when I could post back in PC jokingly and everyone would understand that people were joking or poking fun. If the staff was upset with my way of posting why did I not receive a message stating that I should post topics more relevant to the thread?

 

[Metatron]

If a mod deletes a thread in their section, the appropriate response is not to create another. If you wanted to have a mature thread on fetishes, then fine, but we all know from the nine responses the first thread got that that was too much for you to handle.

The fetish idea is dead. If you continue to make stupid threads in my section, I will deal with you accordingly. Also, creating CQ&F threads to highlight what you feel is "bad modding" is also not the way to go.

This ends now.

If a mod deletes a thread on absolutely no basis, it is the member's responsibility to question the authority. That's what keeps this forum running; us, the members.

And if a member finds an issue with a mod's judgment...is this not the place discuss such an issue?

 

[Ryoutarou]

No, you're supposed to PM/VM the moderator in question, and if that goes sour, you take it to hstaff. No need to publicize everything.

If a person feels that direct contact with any given staff members won't solve an issue, I think they're well within their rights to post a thread about it here. It's not as if Kura is running some sort of smear campaign against him or anything. If you want the staff to be all "my word is law," about everything, fine, whatever floats your boat, but that's not going to foster any sense of community or confidence in the staff.

 

[Kura]

Had you not come in there acting stupid and trollish, we wouldn't have this here thread in CQ&F now, would we?

Though, me replying to you here isn't going to get me anywhere. You'll all just go do it again. :)

I'm sorry but I wasn't part of this or a part of "acting stupid and trollish." I merely wanted to reply to a thread I felt had merit for interesting discussion.

The point of CQ&F encompasses issues we see with moderation that could've been taken a different way. It offers suggestions to issues and it brings to light a different perspective on the choice of a action that I, as a member, didn't agree with. Why would you deem this thread as something that was unnecessary when it brings to light some valid points on something to keep in mind the next time something like this happens?

 

[Shining Raichu]

If you have a problem with my modding, you come to me. If you don't like the outcome of that, go to H-staff. As Sydian said, there is no need to make everything public.

 

[Chikara]

The thing is, the issue was addressed. TO the moderator. By two members. One member was effectively ignored, the other was talked down to. Sure the latter was being silly, but the fact of the matter is, it was addressed.

In my honest completely irrelevant opinion, this thread is 100% okay.

 

[Metatron]

If you have a problem with my modding, you come to me. If you don't like the outcome of that, go to H-staff. As Sydian said, there is no need to make everything public.

Well, if we have a problem with your modding, we're not gonna go to you personally, because we feel as though you lack good judgment. What are the odds of you then, in turn coming to the realization that you made a mistake, and correcting said mistake?

The title of this forum contains the word "feedback." And, that's what we're doing...giving feedback.