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    Zapdos @ Yache Berry
    Lightningrod
    EVs: 248 HP/252 SpD/8 Spe
    Calm Nature
    -Thunderbolt
    - Roost
    - Toxic
    - HP Ice/Grass

    Specially defensive Zapdos pretty much walls Slowbro. Ice Beam is a 2HKO without Yache Berry, while Thunderbolt can do up to 89% in one shot. Bye-bye Slowbro...
    For the record, a Choice Specs Zapdos probably would have worked, but without the Yache berry, Ice Beam would have an 81% to KO Zapdos in one hit. Soooo... SpD Zapdos kinda works better.
     

    Zeffy

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    Blissey @Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
    Nature: Calm
    - Seismic Toss
    - Toxic
    - Softboiled
    - Aromatherapy

    Blissey can out stall Zapdos. There's no need for additional comments haha
     

    SidDays

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  • Standard aegislash set?

    Aegislash @Leftovers
    Stance Change
    252Atk/252HP/4SpD
    Adamant
    -King's Shield
    -Sacred Sword
    -Shadow Sneak
    -Swords Dance

    Seismic toss and toxic both fail
     

    Zeffy

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    Not really sure whether we should start posting Gen 6 sets. There are no mentions of strictly Gen 5 sets though so whatevs

    Rotom-H @Choice Specs
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Nature: Modest
    - Overheat
    - Thunderbolt
    - Volt Switch
    - Trick

    Shadow Sneak does like 30% without a boost whilst Overheat OHKOs back with Overheat. Shield forme should be OHKO'd as well but i can't be assed to calculate
     
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    Suicune w/Life Orb
    Ability: Water Absorb
    252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid nature
    ~ Hydro Pump
    ~ Calm Mind
    ~ Ice Beam
    ~ Hidden Power Electric

    Suicune's got heavy defensive stats, so it should be able to withstand any attack that Rotom throws at it, including Thunderbolt and Volt Switch—moves that it's super-effective to. Rotom could try to escape from Suicune by using Volt Switch, but it won't be able to; Suicune will outspeed it. With one Hydro Pump from this Pokémon, Rotom will instantly be knocked out. d:
     

    Zaroas

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  • Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
    252 HP / 48 Def / 208 Special Defense
    Relaxed nature
    -Spikes
    -Leech Seed
    -Power Whip
    -Thunder Wave

    Ferrothorn is simply not afraid of anything Suicune can throw at it. 252 SpA Life Orb Suicune Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 208 SpD Ferrothorn: 78-92 (22.15 - 26.13%) -- possible 5HKO, and that's with no Calm Mind boost. With a boost, it's an 10.11% chance to 3HKO, but Ferrothorn can cripple Suicune with Thunderwave and proceed to Vine Whip it into submission - 0 Atk Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Suicune: 218-258 (63.92 - 75.65%) -- guaranteed 2HKO. Ferrothorn can also set up Leech Seed against Suicune and do much more damage while maintaining health.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Suicune w/Life Orb
    Ability: Water Absorb
    252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid nature
    ~ Hydro Pump
    ~ Calm Mind
    ~ Ice Beam
    ~ Hidden Power Electric

    Suicune's got heavy defensive stats, so it should be able to withstand any attack that Rotom throws at it, including Thunderbolt and Volt Switch—moves that it's super-effective to. Rotom could try to escape from Suicune by using Volt Switch, but it won't be able to; Suicune will outspeed it. With one Hydro Pump from this Pokémon, Rotom will instantly be knocked out. d:

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-H Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Suicune: 390-458 (114.36 - 134.31%) -- guaranteed OHKO


    Not a counter because it cant switch in.

    Camerupt@Choice Specs
    52 HP / 252 SpA / 204 Spe
    Modest Nature
    Trait: Solid Rock
    - Earth Power
    - Fire Blast
    - Eruption
    - Hidden Power Grass

    Can tank everything Ferrothorn does and even take Thunderwaves. It then obv returns the Ko.
     

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    252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-H Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Suicune: 390-458 (114.36 - 134.31%) -- guaranteed OHKO


    Not a counter because it cant switch in.

    Camerupt@Choice Specs
    52 HP / 252 SpA / 204 Spe
    Modest Nature
    Trait: Solid Rock
    - Earth Power
    - Fire Blast
    - Eruption
    - Hidden Power Grass

    Can tank everything Ferrothorn does and even take Thunderwaves. It then obv returns the Ko.

    Ambipom @Normal Gem
    252 Attack/ 252 Speed/ 4 HP
    Adamant Nature
    Ability: Skill Link
    -Giga Impact
    -Beat Up
    -Return
    -Power Up Punch/Seed Bomb

    Adamant nature gives it a huge attack stat (with the maxed attack EVs) and that Normal gem (and stab) return or giga impact can take anything that isnt a Ghost or steel type out. Beat up can be used to take any psychic or ghost type out. Power up punch/Seed bomb can easily take down rock opponents.
     

    PlatinumDude

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  • Ambipom @Normal Gem
    252 Attack/ 252 Speed/ 4 HP
    Adamant Nature
    Ability: Skill Link
    -Giga Impact
    -Beat Up
    -Return
    -Power Up Punch/Seed Bomb

    Adamant nature gives it a huge attack stat (with the maxed attack EVs) and that Normal gem (and stab) return or giga impact can take anything that isnt a Ghost or steel type out. Beat up can be used to take any psychic or ghost type out. Power up punch/Seed bomb can easily take down rock opponents.
    Let's face it: Giga Impact is TERRIBLE in competitive play. It leaves you a sitting duck the next turn:

    Anyway:
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    Gourgeist (Super Size):
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Leech Seed
    -Protect/Pain Split
    -Seed Bomb
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Frisk

    Gourgeist can come in on anything that Ambipom can throw at it; it has enough Defense to stomach a Beat Up, while neutering Ambipom with Will-o-Wisp or hitting it hard with Seed Bomb.
     
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    Zaroas

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  • Anyway:
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    Gourgeist (Super Size):
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Leech Seed
    -Protect/Pain Split
    -Seed Bomb
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Frisk

    Gourgeist can come in on anything that Ambipom can throw at it; it has enough Defense to stomach a Beat Up, while neutering it with Will-o-Wisp or hitting it hard with Seed Bomb.

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    Volcarona @ Life Orb
    Ability: Flame Body
    Timid nature
    252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    -Quiver Dance
    -Bug Buzz
    -Fiery Dance/Fire Blast
    -Giga Drain

    Volcarona may just be Gourgeist's worst nightmare. It can absorb Will-O-Wisp with its fire typing and dual resists Seed Bomb - The only thing Gourgeist can do is Leech Seed or Protect, while Volcarona is able to set up Quiver Dances and/or OHKO it with Fiery Dance/Fire Blast or Bug Buzz. 252 SpA Life Orb Volcarona Fiery Dance vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Gourgeist: 445-525 (118.98 - 140.37%) -- guaranteed OHKO.
     

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    Volcarona @ Life Orb
    Ability: Flame Body
    Timid nature
    252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    -Quiver Dance
    -Bug Buzz
    -Fiery Dance/Fire Blast
    -Giga Drain

    Volcarona may just be Gourgeist's worst nightmare. It can absorb Will-O-Wisp with its fire typing and dual resists Seed Bomb - The only thing Gourgeist can do is Leech Seed or Protect, while Volcarona is able to set up Quiver Dances and/or OHKO it with Fiery Dance/Fire Blast or Bug Buzz. 252 SpA Life Orb Volcarona Fiery Dance vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Gourgeist: 445-525 (118.98 - 140.37%) -- guaranteed OHKO.

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    Aerodactyl @ Life Orb
    Ability: Rock Head
    Hasty Nature
    252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Stone Edge
    Aqua Tail
    Earthquake
    Double-Edge

    He will outspeed a Volcarona w/ Life Orb, Volcarona's strongest weakness is Rock. Volcarona shot down.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Ambipom @Normal Gem
    252 Attack/ 252 Speed/ 4 HP
    Adamant Nature
    Ability: Skill Link
    -Giga Impact
    -Beat Up
    -Return
    -Power Up Punch/Seed Bomb

    Adamant nature gives it a huge attack stat (with the maxed attack EVs) and that Normal gem (and stab) return or giga impact can take anything that isnt a Ghost or steel type out. Beat up can be used to take any psychic or ghost type out. Power up punch/Seed bomb can easily take down rock opponents.


    Yes because that is totally a counter to specs Camerupt. -.-

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    Aerodactyl @ Life Orb
    Ability: Rock Head
    Hasty Nature
    252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Stone Edge
    Aqua Tail
    Earthquake
    Double-Edge

    He will outspeed a Volcarona w/ Life Orb, Volcarona's strongest weakness is Rock. Volcarona shot down.

    Suicune@Leftovers
    252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Sp.Def
    Bold Nature
    - Calm Mind
    - Rest
    - Ice Beam
    - Scald

    Old School Calm cune. Counters Aero pretty well tanking all of its hits and returning the KO with Scald.
     
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  • Abomasnow (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Snow Warning
    EVs: 172 HP / 252 Atk / 84 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Ice Shard
    - Wood Hammer
    - Protect
    - Leech Seed

    252+ Atk Abomasnow Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Suicune: 222-264 (54.95 - 65.34%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     
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    Heatran @ Leftovers
    Ability: Flash Fire
    252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Nature: Timid
    - Fire Blast
    - Earth Power
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Taunt

    Fire Blast outright OHKOs, other moves deal with other Pokemon, Taunt is a filler :p
     
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  • Gyarados (F) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Moxie
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Waterfall
    - Bounce
    - Stone Edge

    252 SpA Heatran Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Gyarados: 98-116 (29.6 - 35.04%) -- 15.43% chance to 3HKO
     
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    Rotom-W @ Leftovers
    Ability: Levitate
    232 HP / 56 SAtk / 220 Spd
    Nature: Modest
    - Hydro Pump
    - Volt Switch
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Pain Split

    Resists both of Gyarados' STABs and Stone Edge only has a mere 33.2% chance to 2HKO Rotom-W. OHKOs back with Volt Switch.
     
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  • Breloom @ Toxic Orb
    Ability: Poison Heal
    232 HP / 248 SDef / 28 Spd
    Nature: Careful
    - Spore
    - Leech Seed
    - Protect
    - Drain Punch

    Poison Heal stops Rotom burning it and with the investment in Defence, Rotom-W can't deal significant damage to Breloom. Leech Seed/Protect/Drain Punch will ensure that even if Rotom-W does land a critical hit, all the HP will be recovered fairly quickly. Spore ensures that Rotom-W can't keep Pain Splitting to stay alive.
     

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    Breloom @ Toxic Orb
    Ability: Poison Heal
    232 HP / 248 SDef / 28 Spd
    Nature: Careful
    - Spore
    - Leech Seed
    - Protect
    - Drain Punch

    Poison Heal stops Rotom burning it and with the investment in Defence, Rotom-W can't deal significant damage to Breloom. Leech Seed/Protect/Drain Punch will ensure that even if Rotom-W does land a critical hit, all the HP will be recovered fairly quickly. Spore ensures that Rotom-W can't keep Pain Splitting to stay alive.

    Gliscor w/Toxic Orb
    Ability: Poison Heal
    EVs: 244 HP, 248 Def, 16 Speed
    Moves: Earthquake, Ice Fang, Taunt, Roost
    Nature: Impish

    After the Toxic Orb activates, Spore no longer effects it. This Gliscor also doesn't give a crap about Drain Punch, and can hurt Breloom pretty bad with Ice Fang. Damage from Leech Seed can be dealt with via Poison Heal and Roost, or even Taunt. So I think this counters that Breloom.
     

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  • Articuno @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Hurricane
    - Roost
    - Substitute

    Rotom-H @ Aspear Berry
    Timid
    12 HP / 252 SpA / 244 Spe
    Levitate

    Snatch
    Shadow Ball
    Charge Beam
    Overheat

    Lolz. Resists Ice Beam and Hurricane, can use Snatch to.. well, snatch either Roost or Substitute from Articuno. The speed EV's allow Rotom-H to outspeed it by a point. Charge Beam to boost through the sub. Aspear Berry.. for good measure.
     
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