6th Gen Mauville & New Mauville Discussion & Speculation thread

[Salzorrah]

I'm really hoping the gym serves as the two level entrances to the overworld and New Mauville. Maybe they can lock the entrance to the basement when you go through the first quest, then after getting the 5th badge, make the New Mauville sidequest a real storyline quest and maybe have a Team Aqua or Magma appearance there? Having the gym doors locked from the basement gym, maybe you can go to the real entrance we knew in RSE and maybe battle them and stabilize the generator or something?

 

[Mark Kamill]

Yeah, new Mauville is defintely gonna be an important plot point with that upgrade above ground. I was thinking, what if GF continues with the town destruction shown in XY, and go crazy with the plot? Like I dunno, have Mt Chimney explode, only to have Mauville destroyed, with everyone now living underground?

 

[skyluigi2]

Hmm... this is interesting. Being a remake, I wasn't expecting any massive redesigns to towns and such. But is it just a simple redesign, or will it have something more to do with the story and New Mauville? I can't imagine it'll make a huge difference to anything, but at least we know things are going to be identical to RSE.

 

[Rivvon]

The drastic change of Mauville is kinda reminiscent of the changes that happened in GS and HGSS. Like Viridian Woods for example. In GS, the trees were cut down, but in HGSS, they were perfectly fine. I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with the timeline whatsoever. Pokemon is weird that way haha xD

Just a small thing, but I'm fairly certain that the lack of Viridian Woods in GSC was mainly because of limited data space on the GameBoy cartridges (which is also probably why they had to remove the Pokémon Tower and replace it with a Radio Tower that you could only visit the first floor of, and all those other "barren" Kanto places).



But in a way that kind of ties in with this topic; I mean, why is it that Mauville is the only city that looks so drastically different? It doesn't necessarily look grander, it just looks like it's behind a wall (it's times like these that make me wish we had a really high-quality version of this map to really scrutinize it!). Lilycove and Ever Grande seem to be very similar to their original counterparts, and those two locations are ones I would imagine would be spruced up quite a bit for these remakes. I even Slateport to receive a grander redesign, but with the concept art we've seen it's very safe to say that it hardly changed! Those are a few cities that could really benefit from the hardware upgrade, but they don't seem to be changed from their original iterations.

So if it wasn't "missed opportunities" with the city due to hardware limitations, the only reason why I can think that Mauville has changed so much is because Game Freak plans on altering its role from the original games.



(Either that, or it's all one giant "building" with everything placed inside...it's really difficult to see with the map that was officially uploaded.
Some people bring up the fact that the Game Corner might have to be removed, but it was only the size of a Gym, so it could easily be replaced with something new--nothing that warranted such a drastic change.)

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Just a small thing, but I'm fairly certain that the lack of Viridian Woods in GSC was mainly because of limited data space on the GameBoy cartridges (which is also probably why they had to remove the Pokémon Tower and replace it with a Radio Tower that you could only visit the first floor of, and all those other "barren" Kanto places).



But in a way that kind of ties in with this topic; I mean, why is it that Mauville is the only city that looks so drastically different? It doesn't necessarily look grander, it just looks like it's behind a wall (it's times like these that make me wish we had a really high-quality version of this map to really scrutinize it!). Lilycove and Ever Grande seem to be very similar to their original counterparts, and those two locations are ones I would imagine would be spruced up quite a bit for these remakes. I even Slateport to receive a grander redesign, but with the concept art we've seen it's very safe to say that it hardly changed! Those are a few cities that could really benefit from the hardware upgrade, but they don't seem to be changed from their original iterations.

So if it wasn't "missed opportunities" with the city due to hardware limitations, the only reason why I can think that Mauville has changed so much is because Game Freak plans on altering its role from the original games.



(Either that, or it's all one giant "building" with everything placed inside...it's really difficult to see with the map that was officially uploaded.
Some people bring up the fact that the Game Corner might have to be removed, but it was only the size of a Gym, so it could easily be replaced with something new--nothing that warranted such a drastic change.)

I think the walls may be a redesign to the wooden "fence" around Mauville in the originals. They probably decided to make it larger and grander. I also think it's a reference to the walls of the castle that was/is in the city that Mauville is based off.

 

[Salzorrah]

I still don't know. I don't think Mauville has just a grander wall. We kinda see 3-4 brown pillars in the city. Probably transmission lines. Also, if they return the design in RSE, then there would be a huge gap from the Game Corner because I'm pretty sure it won't be coming back. That itself constitutes 25% of the RSE City.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

I still don't know. I don't think Mauville has just a grander wall. We kinda see 3-4 brown pillars in the city. Probably transmission lines. Also, if they return the design in RSE, then there would be a huge gap from the Game Corner because I'm pretty sure it won't be coming back. That itself constitutes 25% of the RSE City.

The transmission line may transmit the electricity from New Mauville to the rest of Hoenn. Or perhaps Hoenn now has radio if they're radio tower ;). But yeah, they do have to put something in to replace the Game corner...or Mauville will be smaller.
Of course it's possible that the transmission towers will be unaccessible.

 

[Pepperton]

Hmm, it may be to contrast all the plot focus on ancient beings. While the legendary mascots have recently been discovered to devolve, the rest of Hoenn is evolving and industrializing at rapid rates. Gives it more of a bizarre vibe, at least. Wonder if there's going to be an easier way to access the Power Plant.

 

[Salzorrah]

I think Rustboro, Lilycove, and Mauville are spearheading the industrialization in Hoenn? Considering if following the timeline, it is actually advancing to an urban region like Unova or Kalos.

Also, I think the gym would serve as the the two gates between the city and the plant? And have an offshore entrance/exit like they did in RSE.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Hmm, it may be to contrast all the plot focus on ancient beings. While the legendary mascots have recently been discovered to devolve, the rest of Hoenn is evolving and industrializing at rapid rates. Gives it more of a bizarre vibe, at least. Wonder if there's going to be an easier way to access the Power Plant.

I was looking at the map and noticed the entrace to New Mauville is still where it was in the original...so it seems we'll still need to surf unless there's another passage/entrace added in.

 

[Salzorrah]

I'm still standing on my speculation that New Mauville's sidequest might be upgraded to a storyline quest, possibly suggesting Team Aqua and/or Magma's plans to harness some of Hoenn's power supply for their nefarious purposes, and it went wrong perhaps and Wattson needs you to deactivate the generator perhaps?

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Did they even add any new plots in the remakes not in the originals in the past remakes pre-post game? Well...there was Team Rocket one island, but I can't recall if we battled them then or post League...
If they were to want the power they may try to blow/cool down Mt. Chimney again since we spoiled their meteor ideas...doesn't help that the machine is still there after we defeated them in the originals...

 

[Pepperton]

I think they're always open to adding new twists in Pokemon games to sell more copies, especially remakes, so it's definitely possible that there's some new plot or side quest dealing with New Mauville in ORAS. It could even have something to do with one of the evil teams creating a new HQ in the city, like Team Rocket had done in Goldenrod, a similarly big city, back in Johto.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

I think they're always open to adding new twists in Pokemon games to sell more copies, especially remakes, so it's definitely possible that there's some new plot or side quest dealing with New Mauville in ORAS. It could even have something to do with one of the evil teams creating a new HQ in the city, like Team Rocket had done in Goldenrod, a similarly big city, back in Johto.

I think they fit better in the outskirts of cities like their Lilycove sea cave hide out, (or a farther from people hideout like Magma's in Emerald) seeing how the evil team focuses on Nature, so a hideout in nature/the environment fits them better.
I doubt they'll make Mauville an HQ as it doesn't fit either goal...it's not a coastal town where land and sea meet, nor is it very high up...

Btw I'm assuming you know the Goldenrod wasn't much of an HQ as they simply took it over similar to how they did years prior in Saffron...

The Hoenn teams have been unique in that they don't have HQ's in the middle (literary in some cases...) of a city like Rocket's Celadon and Mahogany HQ's, Galactic's Veilstone and other smaller HQs, and Flare's HQ deep in Lumiose. Plasma is actually more unique in that they have a castle that randomly pops up (BW), and a moving base (B2W2)...
Rather their (M/A) base is in the outskirts of one.

 

[Salzorrah]

I think it's because that the Hoenn Teams are more natural and not much urbanized like the other teams.

Anyways, now that it is possible that Mauville will be getting a redesign, what attractions would we see in the city this time? I was thinking that maybe they could have a Boutique or a Hair Salon in the city, or possibly even in New Mauville?

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

I think it's because that the Hoenn Teams are more natural and not much urbanized like the other teams.

Anyways, now that it is possible that Mauville will be getting a redesign, what attractions would we see in the city this time? I was thinking that maybe they could have a Boutique or a Hair Salon in the city, or possibly even in New Mauville?

Lol, I said that in my comment too (top part) :P

I think they may add something similar to the Pokethalon.

 

[Pepperton]

They could add a huge Hair Salon/Clothing store with tons of different stylists and stores within a large building, like a modern mall! Different clothing outlets line the walls, and salons are found throughout the structure. Even though Hoenn is a bit more 'wild' than most of the other regions, this could be a way of showing the steps they've taken forward since RSE.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

They could add a huge Hair Salon/Clothing store with tons of different stylists and stores within a large building, like a modern mall! Different clothing outlets line the walls, and salons are found throughout the structure. Even though Hoenn is a bit more urbanized than most of the other regions, this could be a way of showing the steps they've taken forward since RSE.

I think you mean to say wild (rural tends to mean farm and there's no farms) rather than Urban which means city...that would be Unova xD.

Also since this isn't a sequel to RSE it's kind of weird to refer to it as "steps they've taken forward since RSE"...since technically it's the same time in the same region...a better way to refer to it would be "to make the region more Urban similar to how they made Kanto in HGSS more forested compared to GSC." I doubt they made Hoenn more Urban other than adding a few buildings not seen in the originals (much like HGSS added the Pokethalon building).

Also if they are to make a large mall it should be in the Department store in Lilycove city...

 

[Pepperton]

I think you mean to say wild (rural tends to mean farm and there's no farms) rather than Urban which means city...that would be Unova xD.

Also since this isn't a sequel to RSE it's kind of weird to refer to it as "steps they've taken forward since RSE"...since technically it's the same time in the same region...a better way to refer to it would be "to make the region more Urban similar to how they made Kanto in HGSS more forested compared to GSC."

Ah yes, thank you, that's what I meant. n__n;

Even though it isn't a sequel, just by looking at the regional map and official artwork of what seems to be Mauville, there have been changes to the city in order to modernize it further, so I think it would be plausible to have such a building added in ORAS. Doesn't have to be a sequel to get upgrades and new installments, I think. d:

 

[DJTiki]

I think you mean to say wild (rural tends to mean farm and there's no farms) rather than Urban which means city...that would be Unova xD.

Also since this isn't a sequel to RSE it's kind of weird to refer to it as "steps they've taken forward since RSE"...since technically it's the same time in the same region...a better way to refer to it would be "to make the region more Urban similar to how they made Kanto in HGSS more forested compared to GSC." I doubt they made Hoenn more Urban other than adding a few buildings not seen in the originals (much like HGSS added the Pokethalon building).

Also if they are to make a large mall it should be in the Department store in Lilycove city...

Giving it a clothes store, wouldn't be bad. Just keep all the stores, where I need swag, I mean style, to get in. Mauville wouldn't be a place to have much style. You'd expect that somewhere else.